Blowback.

[beevul]

For a while now, bills have been introduced.

Restrant carry.

Constitutional carry.

CCW reciprocity.

Campus carry.


Those are but a few examples, out of many.

How much of it is blowback, in response to the things the anti-gun lobby has been pushing over the years?

Discuss.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

1. Silencers increase the blowback.

Makes the gun alot dirtier alot faster.

[Kennah]

2. Some of it is probably blowback, but ...

... I think there is a racial angle as well.

In days past, restrictive gun laws weren't for "the good white Christian people".

Equality and integration means the restrictive laws today apply to most everyone.

[Kennah]

3. Restaurant carry restrictions are just plain silly

Opponents of concealed carry tend to insert things like restaurant bans, park bans, bank bans, hospital and doctor's office bans, etc. as poison pills to outright kill the bill. After a couple of years, and the streets remain free of blood, some of the poison gets repealed.

[speltwon]

17. Yea, but an armed diner could react to an overcooked steak

and pull out his gun and start shouting "You turned this beautiful piece of meat into a dry, tough piece of shoe leather. And now you will pay!!!" and there would be blood in the dining hall (but not in the well done piece of steak, which was dry leathery brown)

It could happen. Think of the children!

[Callisto32]

51. No...

Think of the VEAL!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

4. k

Looks beautiful.

[jody]

5. IMO a small minority group touting one or the other side of a divisive, polarizing political issue

can keep their crusade going by finding a few candidates in constituencies responsive to such campaign rhetoric.

If elected the representative is obligated to pay-back by introducing bills that will not pass.

Such bills feed the PR machine of the special interest for a short time and the media in a quiet day proclaims in headlines "BILL SO & SO INTRODUCED TO SOLVE WHATEVER".

Behind the scenes, corporatist who fund candidates from both parties ROFL.

The people shouted, "We the people are dead, long live the corporation."

And the high priests of Mammon laughed about how easy it was to destroy the world's longest running, most successful experiment in democracy.

And the thirsty and hungry and sick and imprisoned and naked prayed to Mammon to have mercy on their wretched. miserable bodies because the people had lost the very soul of democracy.

[Maine_Nurse]

6. I do think much is due to blowback...

We've seen so many absolutely ridiculous restriction laws promoted that gun owners are dubious of any new type of restriction, whether it is reasonable or not. I'd have to believe that many gun owners promote pro-gun legislation to their groups and legislators to take pro-active steps to preserve our rights, out of belief that if we don't, we will lose them.

[jpak]

7. Asshole republic gun legislation

yup

[rl6214]

40. You tell me, do any of these republics have any gun legislation

20th Century and LaterPanama (est. 1903)
Portugal (est. 5 October 1910)
Azerbaijan (est. 18 May 1918, lost independence to Soviet Russia on 28 April 1920), first democratic parliamentary republic in the Muslim world
Commonwealth of the Philippines (1935–1946)
Second Spanish Republic (de jure: 1931–1939) (de facto: 1931-1975)
Fourth French Republic (1946–1958)
Republic of the Philippines (1946, fully independent from the United States of America, inaugurated on 4 July 1946)
Albania (est. 1946)
Ireland (est. 1949)
India (est. 1950)
Fifth French Republic (since 1958)
Algeria (est. 1962)
Singapore (est. 1965)
Afghanistan (est. 1973)
Nepal (est. 2008)
Zimbabwe

[jpak]

8. "Restrant"

:rofl:

[beevul]

9. I always did have trouble with that word.

Yup.

[Kennah]

10. I chewed through mine

[Maine_Nurse]

11. Jpak, you of all people should realize how many democrats and libs are for gun rights. nt.

[jpak]

12. The GOP and NRA have over-reached and gun owning Democrats like myself

are fed up with their "an open carry gun in every classroom/library/church/diner/bar/parking lot/mall" bullshit

All this nonsense is republic sponsored legislation.

yup

[speltwon]

13. the burden has switched

It used to be the pro RKBA had to argue why people should be able to carry/possess in locale X. Now the burden is on the anti-civil rights folk as to why it shouldn't be allowed in a restaurant, etc.

[jpak]

15. Nope - republics must respect the rights of people who do not want guns everywhere in our society

They have over-reached

They care more about the rights of assassins, terrorists and gunrunners than the victims of gun violence.

yup

[Maine_Nurse]

19. No they don't, duh. Should they respect the rights of KKKmembers ...

that don't want blacks everywhere? Blacks have their rights as do firearms owners. That's life.

[jpak]

21. You want people running around hospitals with open-carry loaded guns?

How 'bout ERs

Should psyche nurses have to put up with patients with loaded handguns?

well?

[Maine_Nurse]

23. Well obviously if they are committed they don't have that right.

[jpak]

25. But you are OK with people roaming hospitals with guns and patients with guns in their room?

Is that right?

[Maine_Nurse]

26. A responsible citizen, complying with laws, is not a concern to me at all. I am around patients...

with firearms all the time in their homes. I could care less.

[jpak]

28. There's a big difference beween guns in people's homes and everyone running around in public with CW

yup

[Maine_Nurse]

30. Nope. A legal, responsible citizen is the same wherever they are. And their rights are the same.

[jpak]

31. Unlicensed and unregulated - nope - this ain't Texas

yup

[PavePusher]

34. And you just proved your own arrogant ignorance. You must be very proud. n/t

[X_Digger]

39. derp derp derp..

Texas doesn't have open carry. We do have a CHL.

Duh.

[Callisto32]

52. You do know that OC is illegal in TX.

Sounds "regulated" to me.

[kudzu22]

49. I can't think of a better place to get shot

than in a hospital

:hide:

[rl6214]

43. Nope - republics must respect the rights of people who do not want guns everywhere in our society

20th Century and LaterPanama (est. 1903)
Portugal (est. 5 October 1910)
Azerbaijan (est. 18 May 1918, lost independence to Soviet Russia on 28 April 1920), first democratic parliamentary republic in the Muslim world
Commonwealth of the Philippines (1935–1946)
Second Spanish Republic (de jure: 1931–1939) (de facto: 1931-1975)
Fourth French Republic (1946–1958)
Republic of the Philippines (1946, fully independent from the United States of America, inaugurated on 4 July 1946)
Albania (est. 1946)
Ireland (est. 1949)
India (est. 1950)
Fifth French Republic (since 1958)
Algeria (est. 1962)
Singapore (est. 1965)
Afghanistan (est. 1973)
Nepal (est. 2008)
Zimbabwe

They have over-reached
20th Century and LaterPanama (est. 1903)
Portugal (est. 5 October 1910)
Azerbaijan (est. 18 May 1918, lost independence to Soviet Russia on 28 April 1920), first democratic parliamentary republic in the Muslim world
Commonwealth of the Philippines (1935–1946)
Second Spanish Republic (de jure: 1931–1939) (de facto: 1931-1975)
Fourth French Republic (1946–1958)
Republic of the Philippines (1946, fully independent from the United States of America, inaugurated on 4 July 1946)
Albania (est. 1946)
Ireland (est. 1949)
India (est. 1950)
Fifth French Republic (since 1958)
Algeria (est. 1962)
Singapore (est. 1965)
Afghanistan (est. 1973)
Nepal (est. 2008)
Zimbabwe

They care more about the rights of assassins, terrorists and gunrunners than the victims of gun violence.

20th Century and LaterPanama (est. 1903)
Portugal (est. 5 October 1910)
Azerbaijan (est. 18 May 1918, lost independence to Soviet Russia on 28 April 1920), first democratic parliamentary republic in the Muslim world
Commonwealth of the Philippines (1935–1946)
Second Spanish Republic (de jure: 1931–1939) (de facto: 1931-1975)
Fourth French Republic (1946–1958)
Republic of the Philippines (1946, fully independent from the United States of America, inaugurated on 4 July 1946)
Albania (est. 1946)
Ireland (est. 1949)
India (est. 1950)
Fifth French Republic (since 1958)
Algeria (est. 1962)
Singapore (est. 1965)
Afghanistan (est. 1973)
Nepal (est. 2008)
Zimbabwe

Republics
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[krispos42]

50. Their rights are respected. Their wishes, though, are not.

They can "do not want guns everywhere in our society" day and night. That's all fine and dandy. They can "not want" all they want to.

Unfortunately, it goes farther than that.

[beevul]

14. Here, fixxed it for you.

"...gun owning Democrats FUDDS like myself are fed up with their "an open carry gun in every classroom/library/church/diner/bar/parking lot/mall" bullshit,


Of course that might even mean something, if you yourself weren't in favor of pushing YOUR bullshit - magazine bans for example - on the rest of us.

[Maine_Nurse]

16. Thankfully, all of us Democrats aren't like you. In fact, Maine's...

possible upcoming action to allow unlicensed concealed carry is being promoted by some Democratic citizens and may even be introduced by a Dem legislator who is very interested.

[jpak]

18. People's Veto - enough of this shit

yup

[Maine_Nurse]

20. Not gonna happen in Maine. Sucks to be you.

[jpak]

22. Sorry - I was born and raised in Maine and the vast majority of Maine gun owners

don't want people running around with unlicensed concealed weapons.

yup

[Maine_Nurse]

24. So was I and history shows you are very wrong. Ask Chief Chitwood, lol. nt

[jpak]

27. Chitwood was ahead of his time and I supported him in that matter

LePage has kicked the Democratic hornet's nest in Maine and a republic gun insanity agenda is going to get him a majority Democratic House and Senate in 2012.

And they will overturn every whackjob piece of legislation he backs.

yup

[Maine_Nurse]

29. And both the citizens and government of Maine handed him his ass.

And it isn't just republicans in Maine that want their firearms rights, you know that. Maine's dem legislators aren't politically suicidal.

[jpak]

33. As they will any idiot stupid enough to allow unlicensed concealed carry in Maine

yup

[PavePusher]

35. Are people in Maine less trustworthy than those in Vermont?

What makes the difference?

[rl6214]

45. republic

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Callisto32]

53. Got stats to back that up?

Or is it just "everyone I know voted for..."

It's okay to make those statements, but don't pretend they are facts.

[rl6214]

44. People's Veto?

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Hoopla Phil]

46. "People's veto"? Is that the same as a Second Amendment solution?

Seems like I've heard that before somewhere. . .

[Hoopla Phil]

36. "gun owning Democrats like myself " LMFAO!!!!

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[rl6214]

42. No one has ever endorsed

"an open carry gun in every classroom/library/church/diner/bar/parking lot/mall"

and if you think so, then you are full of

bullshit

even with all of the republics

20th Century and LaterPanama (est. 1903)
Portugal (est. 5 October 1910)
Azerbaijan (est. 18 May 1918, lost independence to Soviet Russia on 28 April 1920), first democratic parliamentary republic in the Muslim world
Commonwealth of the Philippines (1935–1946)
Second Spanish Republic (de jure: 1931–1939) (de facto: 1931-1975)
Fourth French Republic (1946–1958)
Republic of the Philippines (1946, fully independent from the United States of America, inaugurated on 4 July 1946)
Albania (est. 1946)
Ireland (est. 1949)
India (est. 1950)
Fifth French Republic (since 1958)
Algeria (est. 1962)
Singapore (est. 1965)
Afghanistan (est. 1973)
Nepal (est. 2008)
Zimbabwe

sponsored legislation?

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Hoopla Phil]

47. Hyperbole is a must with some. . . .

[rl6214]

41. You've never made a mistake I assume

YUP

YUP

YUP

[Hoopla Phil]

48. I was wrong once - but I was mistaken. . .

YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP YUP

[ileus]

32. First three are great...

[GreenStormCloud]

37. Blowback enabled the election of gun friendly legislators.

Gun friendly legislators now have enough strength to push for and get specific bills.

[guitar man]

38. Meh

I prefer a nice gas piston-operated action myself :silly: