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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 04:57 PM
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A Political Victory For All Gun Owners (California)
Edited on Wed Sep-01-10 05:06 PM by shadowrider
DEFEATED:

* AB 1810(Feuer) – Registration of Rifles and Shotguns
* AB 1934 (Saldana) – Handgun Open Carry Prohibition
* AB 2358 (De Leon) – Ammunition Registration

California Rifle and Pistol Association

California Rifle and Pistol Association

Sacramento, CA --(Ammoland.com)- All three of these bills posed a fundamental threat to the rights of gun owners. And there was no room for compromise any one of the bills.

It was a fight down to midnight, but in the late hours of August 31, AB 1810, AB 1934, and AB 2358 were DEFEATED!

This is a huge win for gun owners. Thank you to all members who took time to contact members of legislature and voice their strong opposition to these bills. Your collective voice was heard loud and clear at the capitol. You stoked the fire against AB 1810, AB 1934, and AB 2358 and it paid off!

If enacted, Assembly Bill 1810 would have required registration of rifles and shotguns in the same way handguns are now registered in California. Under current law, the information collected at the time of purchase of a rifle or shotgun (serial number, make, and model) is destroyed after the background check is completed. AB 1810 would have required that the make, model, and serial number of the firearm, as well as the identifying information of the purchaser, be recorded and kept on file by the California Department of Justice.

If enacted, AB 1934 would have deleted provisions of current law that allows a firearm to be carried openly in a belt holster. AB 1934 did not provide a way for a law-abiding citizen to carry a firearm for self-protection or other legitimate purposes.

If signed into law, AB 2358 would have required that ammunition vendors transmit records of sale, information on the quantity and type of ammunition purchased, and the personal information of purchasers collected at the time of sale to local law enforcement if required by city or county ordinance. AB 2358 would have also allowed uncontrolled expansion of city and county ordinances requiring handgun ammunition vendors to transmit all information collected relating to sales of handgun ammunition and some rifle cartridges to local law enforcement agencies.

http://www.ammoland.com/2010/09/01/a-political-victory-for-all-gun-owners/
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frebrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 05:17 PM
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1. Ah, some welcome good news for the day! eom
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frebrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 05:17 PM
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2. Dupe! Deleted by poster.
Edited on Wed Sep-01-10 05:19 PM by frebrd
Second time today!

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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 05:19 PM
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3. Yeah BIG victory
because it makes SO much sense to want to open carry an UNLOADED gun.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 05:21 PM
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4. With practice, they can be loaded and ready to go in less than 5 seconds n/t
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 06:04 PM
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6. In a gun fight, 5 seconds is a lifetime ...
With practice you can be ready to go in five seconds but in an emergency situation your motor skills are often diminished. One fumble and the time to deliver well aimed shots could double. The increased stress of the situation could cause the shooter to hurry his shot and make missing his target likely, which would endanger other people in his line of fire.

Still, it could be argued that it's better to carry an unloaded firearm than no firearm. On the other hand, if an attacker knows the firearm is unloaded, it becomes a valuable item to steal. Many quality firearms cost upward of 500 dollars to 1000 dollars or more. Open carrying an unloaded firearm is like walking around with a bunch of 100 dollar bills hanging out of your back pocket.

If police officers were required to carry their firearms unloaded, many of their weapons would end up in criminal hands and a good number of officers would be injured or murdered.

The citizens of California need at a minimum "shall issue" concealed carry. In the current political environment, this should be an achievable but difficult goal. They would be far from leaders in getting realistic concealed carry laws passed. "Shall issue" concealed carry has a history of success in this nation.







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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 04:57 AM
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11. I'm not disagreeing, but under current California law, it's the best option you have n/t
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 04:55 PM
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14. I agree and that needs to change ....
At a minimum, California should authorize "shall issue" concealed carry. The concealed weapons should also be loaded!!!!
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 06:10 PM
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7. Under current California law...
that is the only way most people can carry. Sad and stupid, but apparently California Citizens are less trustworthy than those in Vermont, Arizona, Alaska, Washington, Virginia, Montana, etc., etc.

Or perhaps Cali politicians are simply big douchebags who don't trust the little people.

I pick #2....
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 06:30 PM
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8. Until we get shall-issue for CCW permits, it's the best we can do
I think we will get there eventually.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 07:06 PM
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9. I believe that you are right.
California often leads the nation, but on this issue the state is WAY behind the times.
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:29 AM
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12. Hey, it beats the hell out of Illinois! NT
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 05:31 PM
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5. Congrats, Californians. Now about that 'ban'... n/t
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jazzhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:59 AM
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10. Thanks for the update, shadowrider.

Great news. Maybe CA Dem pols are waking up and smelling the coffee.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:21 PM
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13. These gun-controllers in "safe" districts make it hard on the rest...
of progressives/liberals from unsafe districts. But what the hell, it's what I FEEL that counts (to hell with the rest).
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