NRA Supports Chicagoans Challenge of New Ant-Gun Rights Law (New lawsuit in the works)

[shadowrider]

Corporation Counsel Mara Georges, the top attorney for the city, said, We’ve gone farther than anyone else ever has …
National Rifle Association

National Rifle Association

Chicago, IL –(Ammoland.com)- Barely a week after the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling in McDonald v. City of Chicago, NRA is supporting a new lawsuit — Benson v. City of Chicago — to enforce the court’s decision. The suit, filed on July 6 against the city and its mayor, Richard Daley, is the first to challenge the city’s new gun control ordinance passed on July 2 (please see related story from last week’s Grassroots Alert here).

Just four days after the Court struck down the nearly 30 year-long handgun bans in the cities of Chicago and Oak Park, Chicago enacted one of the most restrictive anti-gun ordinances in the United States. Commenting on the scope of the new ordinance, Corporation Counsel Mara Georges, the top attorney for the city, said, “We’ve gone farther than anyone else ever has.”

http://www.ammoland.com/2010/07/11/nra-supports-chicagoans-challenge-of-new-ant-gun-rights-law/

[bluestateguy]

1. Mayor Daley may be the most anti-choice politician in America today

Against a woman's right to choose and against the right to choose to own a handgun.

See, pro-choice to me means more than just abortion.

[saigon68]

12. Daley is a Thug and a Bear Fan

P.S.-- The Bears still SUCK

[onehandle]

2. Yay Republican supporting NRA! Yay Right-Wing Ammoland!

So glad that our DU donations go towards the not so indirect defeat of Democrats.

[shadowrider]

4. I've asked you several times to show me a left-wing website that's PRO-RKBA

You remain strangely silent. Wonder why that is.

[oneshooter]

9. It's just that he/she/it is soooo busy that there just isn't any time left! n/t

[GreenStormCloud]

10. The NRA supports Democrats too, if they are pro-RKBA.

And the NRA opposes those Republicans that are anti-RKBA.

You already know that, but you choose to ignore it.

[SteveM]

11. "...our DU donations go toward the... defeat of Democrats." Really?

Please explain. Both the Moderators and DU membership may be interested to know about this front group Democratic Underground, which (by your account) supports the defeat of Democrats.

[HockeyMom]

31. Ammo may be the key

After all, if you cannot get ammo, what will be the point of owning 100 guns? I know my husband has one gun he cannot get any ammo for, so he cannot shoot it, and is looking to sell it.

Interesting. Does the constitutional right apply to ammo too? Place restrictions on the buying and selling of ammo instead, or supplies to MAKE ammo. Yes, I though of that one too. Husband used to make his own ammo.

[Pavulon]

34. Like banning ink, because you cant ban books.

you husband should buy a reloading press. Reload 1000 rounds in an hour..

dillon makes nice stuff.

[HockeyMom]

43. Did that years ago

when we had a basement and room to do it. He sold all that equipment when we moved out of state. Besides, I don't think he is into that anymore.

[Hoopla Phil]

35. Yes the 2A applies to ammo too. You'll note that it is a right to "arms" not just firearms.

[Statistical]

36. defacto ban on right to keep and bear arms..

One can't bear arms without ammo (just ask the Continental Army ammo was often in short supply).

[HockeyMom]

3. Does the NRA support ANY restrctions on guns?

Tell me what restrictions AT ALL they support.

[shadowrider]

5. Google is your friend. I won't do your research for you

Read it for yourself, that way, you can't say I'm misrepresenting their position.

[HockeyMom]

14. I'm lazy

I could just get out my husband's NRA mags I suppose. I get the feeling they don't like registrations, licensing, permit, etc., and charging FEES for it.

[cowman]

15. All registration does

is let the govt. have a list of gun owners, now I don't know about you, but I would distrust the Feds with that info, and why should I, as a law abiding American citizen ask permission to own a gun when the BoR says it is my RKBA and how much would you charge for your right, hell, while we're at it, lets charge fees to vote, lets have a fee for the right to speak freely or to worship to whatever god we want to. Don't go down that slippery slope.

[HockeyMom]

18. Let me see

I had to pay a fee to get copy of a birth certificste. I had to pay a fee to get a passport. I had to pay money to get my kids vaccinations before they could start FREE public schools.

Actually, even to VOTE I had to pay rent/mortgage, pay electric bills, or something, to prove I lived where I did to vote.

Nothing is FREE.

[cowman]

20. Lets see

not one of those are in the Bill of Rights. Thats the difference.

[Callisto32]

40. Public schools are not free.

They are paid for, by the taxes you and many others pay, costs go WAY beyond those vaccinations.

Anyway. Why not look at this the other way, and instead of using the terrible fees and restrictions as an excuse to restrict more. Condemn the restrictions already in place as well.

You probably won't respond, though.

[Hoopla Phil]

16. Have you read the other replies? Lots of answerers to your question there.

[Hoopla Phil]

17. Registrations. licensing, permit schemes have shown to be big money

wasters and no more affective in finding criminals that the forward trace system that has been in affect for decades now. As far as charging fees for the right to own a firearm I am as apposed to that as charging fees to vote.

[HockeyMom]

19. Indirectly,

you still have to pay to prove to vote. I remember they gave me a hard time when I was 18, not having a drivers license, and still living at home with prents, a very hard time when it came to voting. So, if you aren't "paying" somehow it is difficult to vote.

[cowman]

21. jeeeez

where the hell do you live? In Nv. all I had to do was go register to vote, I didn't have to show anything except my DL.

[Hoopla Phil]

22. As I understand Texas, indigents can receive an I.D. card free of charge.

Other states I'm sure will vary.

Have you read the other replies to your question?

[AtheistCrusader]

28. Varies by state.

Here in WA, it's like that. Other states, some are more restrictive, some less.

[Statistical]

38. Indirectly is the key word.

The govt has no obligation to make rights free they simply have a restriction to add additional burden.

[PavePusher]

39. Maybe because it's a Civil Right...

Would you be O.K. with any of those things applied to your right to have books and papers?

How about you show me your Thirteenth Amendment licence and proof of training?

[SteveM]

6. Do the research yourself, or peruse these threads, but here are 2:

(1) The National Instant Background Check System (NICS) which was enacted under Clinton;
(2) The 1934 Gun Control Act (which put FULL AUTO weapons under strict regulation, in place to this day).

When you see the measures supported by the NRA, please report back to this thread and acknowledge such.

[GreenStormCloud]

7. NRA supports the NICS instant background checks.

The support the law that makes it illegal for several classes of people to not have guns. Those classes include felons, violent domestic abusers, judged mentally incompetent.

The NRA supports the 1934 Gun Control Act.

Now you have been told. Please don't again claim that the NRA opposes all gun restrictions.

[oneshooter]

8. What restrictions do you support? n/t

[Glassunion]

13. Yes.

H.R. 2640 they supported, it was a massive expansion of the NICS background checks. It was submitted by a Dem and backed by the NRA.

NICS itself was backed by the NRA.

The gun control act of 1968 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Control_Act

FAOPA http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act, it contained quite a bit of gun control amendments

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association, just look under criticism. There are many "gun control" measures that the NRA has supported. Many don't want to believe it, that they don't want every 10 year old with an extra $5 running around with an Uzi.

[AtheistCrusader]

27. They supported the 1934 NFA, the 1986 GOPA

and a few others that resulted in the severe restriction, and eventual banning of new fully automatic and select-fire firearms.

For starters.

They also put more weight behind the 'brady instant check system' than the brady coalition did.

[Pullo]

44. They support restrictions on the goverment from infringing our civil liberties

The Second Amendment, specifically

[old mark]

23. Looks like I may want to join the NRA -30 or more years after I quit...

Daley is wrong and and should be taken down, and along with him the remainder of the illegal "gun control" laws in the US

I believe the NRA will get some of my money very soon.


mark

[Hoopla Phil]

24. Keep in mind that it was NOT the NRA that brought about Heller or McDonald.

In fact the NRA did everything they could to derail the Parker case (it became the Heller case later when parker lost standing). The NRA has done a masterful job of taking credit but they do not deserve it. The Credit goes to Second Amendment Foundation: http://www.saf.org/

Please consider giving to them.

On Edit: It was the NRA's action in Parker that made me send in my membership card. I will never give another cent to them.

[SteveM]

25. Yeah, they eschew court cases (in favor of legislating), but soon as a winner...

appears in the courts, they stomp pass their marks and head for the limelight. They did that with both Heller and McDonald.

[old mark]

41. I returned mine in the early 80's when they went right wing...I am hoping

enough liberal members can influence the course of the NRA and make it into a good organization as it once was.


mark

[spin]

45. Join the NRA but don't contribute to the NRA-ILA ...

very little of your membership dues to the NRA go to support NRA-ILA political activities.

The fund-raising that sustains NRA`s legislative activities is conducted by ILA. Federal and many state election laws dictate that funds used to assist candidates for office must be raised separately, and that is the task of NRA`s political action committee--the NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF). Neither NRA member dues nor contributions to ILA can be used directly for the election or defeat of candidates.

Because of these clearly defined parameters, and because only a small fraction of ILA`s operating budget comes from regular NRA membership dues, both ILA and NRA-PVF must continuously raise the funds needed to sustain NRA`s legislative and political activities. The resources expended in these arenas come from the generous contributions of NRA members--above and beyond their regular dues.
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?id=18...

The NRA still has a lot of good programs that are worthy of support.

http://www.nra.org/programs.aspx

[old mark]

46. I agree. I will probably join before the end of the year. nt

[TheCowsCameHome]

26. Wow.

I'm stunned.:sarcasm:

[Iktomiwicasa]

29. Dipshit Daley...

...is going to get his ass handed to him.

[MineralMan]

30. What's an Ant-Gun? If I have a right to own one, I want one.

I have hundreds of huge black ants coming out of my driveway, so an ant-gun would be ideal.

[Hoopla Phil]

32. It is a diabolic weapon available only to the insidious Neo-Typo.

LOL

[MineralMan]

33. How can I get to be one of those Neo-Typos.

I have a serious ant problem, and I desperately need an Ant-Gun. I mean...I have a deer rifle, a varmint rifle, and a target rifle. I have a duck gun, and a pheasant gun, and even a trap gun, although I can't remember the last time I saw a trap fly by. I'd get an elephant gun, but there aren't a lot of elephants in my area.

But...I have lots of ants, and they're ruining my driveway. An Ant-Gun would be just the thing. Not much recoil, either, I'll bet. :rofl:

[oneshooter]

37. Just remember they are only available in pairs

One ant gun and one uncle gun!!

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[GreenStormCloud]

42. Old B.C. cartoon.

One of the characters is on a picnic with the cute girl. Ants are a problem. He see the anteater close by. Final panel shows him holding the anteater like a Tommy-gun and wiping out the ants. The sound is written as Zot-zot-zot-zot.