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cory777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 10:52 PM Original message |
Ariz. House approves concealed weapons bill |
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rwheeler31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yuck |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Thank god we are a nation with no bloodshed from gunfire.. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 10:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Are you people capable of staying on a logical thread when the subject involves firearms? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 09:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
118. Perhaps the problem comes with "liberal exceptionalism..." |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. Yes, the gun-woundings are all fantasy . . . but we pay $38,000 for each one ... or more!! |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Drug WAR, wars involve people getting shot |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. The drug war failed years ago. Banning and prohibiting never works ... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Drugs are quite different from guns -- |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Lets be truthful. 50% or more gun deaths are suicide. Thats mental health |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
66. In some cases they do promote violence in the owner's family ... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:15 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Obviously, we need to concentrate more on male rapists and their violence .... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 10:10 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. That is as accidental as a rape. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:26 AM Response to Reply #70 |
80. Had my mother been assaulted and killed ... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. You're holding that 1920's America was same as today's America . . . ??? |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. Silly logic aside, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Somewhere in the Bronze Age . . . . |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:14 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. What about the clovis culture (13,000 BP), |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #95 |
113. First of all, keep in mind we have history of the world written by males... |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 08:52 AM Response to Reply #113 |
116. Wow |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #116 |
134. "Belief is the end, not the beginning of all wisdom" -- |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #113 |
157. even fairly recently in trying to suggest that certain native peoples were |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #113 |
168. Violence is not natural? |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-17-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #113 |
231. Might I suggest that you study science instead of myth? |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-17-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #231 |
232. But Nat. Geo is just a tool of the Patriarchy doncha know. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-17-10 06:55 PM Response to Reply #232 |
233. Gasp. You're right. All 33 of the original founders were men. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 09:26 AM Response to Reply #90 |
121. Sounds like you got an "anti-male" agenda. And a grammar agenda. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:14 AM Response to Reply #121 |
135. And what is . . . |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #135 |
137. All I see here |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #137 |
142. Patriarchy and organized patriarchal religions ... |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 02:18 PM Response to Reply #142 |
151. Wow |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #151 |
155. Recognizing the harm of patriarchy and its systems . . .. |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #142 |
170. Not all violence is created equal |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 09:21 AM Response to Reply #170 |
177. I can only respond to you by saying .... |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #177 |
184. Thanks for adding me to the club |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #142 |
190. the NRA =/= the GOP |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 08:58 PM Response to Reply #190 |
209. Oops, I think you missed a "not" in there somewhere... n/t |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:51 AM Response to Reply #209 |
210. yes. my bad. editing period expired though nt |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:46 AM Response to Reply #135 |
139. You really have not dealt with the issues you raise... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #139 |
143. When a male says that he needs a definition of "patriarchy" ... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #143 |
144. And what do your perceived issues have to do with concealed weapons in Arizona? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #144 |
146. The connection is . . . |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #144 |
150. actually, in fairness, |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #143 |
152. there you go again |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 05:50 PM Response to Reply #152 |
156. And who commits most of the crime on this planet? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 09:36 AM Response to Reply #156 |
214. You people do |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 09:43 AM Response to Reply #143 |
160. If "patriarchy" has its roots in the Catholic church, then it has poor prospects... |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #160 |
165. Forget it, I've had more lucid conversations with a guy who took ca. 1k hits of acid. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #165 |
182. Lucid conversations are supposed to be 2-way. Thanks for the time. nt |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #182 |
186. My bad. I was not referring to you. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 09:13 AM Response to Reply #186 |
201. No problema. Have a wonderful day. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #143 |
161. I'm still waiting to hear how exactly Vermont is in the iron grip of patriarchy... |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #135 |
169. That's 2700 horrific incidents |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #81 |
89. Simply repeating something ad nauseum doesn't make it any more truthful |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Guns are an instrument of violence . . . |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:32 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. "Nor has there been sufficient time to see what will actually happen" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:34 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. First, that poster evidently is on my "ignore" list . . . |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:26 PM Response to Reply #97 |
102. But his *links* aren't on your ignore list, are they? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Then how come police enforcement is still for gun control? |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:37 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Are you serious? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #106 |
114. Okay, try it this way: If citizens are armed, police officers have less risk and less work to do-! |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 09:41 AM Response to Reply #114 |
124. You should see what the sheriffs of counties in NY and Texas are saying: |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #124 |
131. We have seen those comments here -- |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #131 |
136. Logical fallacy with this: |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #136 |
145. The message is that citizens have to RESPOND themselves to the violence against them . . . |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #145 |
159. Again. . . |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #114 |
140. Armed law abiding citizens |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #140 |
147. No, they're just required to have guns to protect themselves . . . |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #147 |
206. Castrate 75% of 'em at birth ? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 07:12 PM Response to Reply #106 |
193. as a street cop myself and a firearms instructor |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #104 |
111. If you've got more accurate information about crime rates, please produce it. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 11:49 PM Response to Reply #111 |
115. Call it what you wish, but the individual is on "ignore" . . . |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 05:07 PM Response to Reply #115 |
153. So you *don't* have any better information, do you? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 09:09 AM Response to Reply #153 |
176. Haven't looked for any other information -- it's a ridiculous argument .... |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #176 |
187. Now we've got "blood guilt" to go with the religious misandry? Charming... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 08:34 PM Response to Reply #187 |
207. Amazing that you see hatred in women pointing to male-supremacist patriachy ... |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:07 AM Response to Reply #207 |
215. As the person who wrote some of the stuff under discussion, I feel I have to respond |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #215 |
216. That's why deflectandproject has me on ignore.. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #216 |
218. Jane Goodall is an agent of the patriarchy, dontcha know? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #218 |
219. Jane Goodall has been bringing us a message about animal-life based |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #219 |
222. Jane Goodall understood that she couldn't keep adult chimpanzees |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:47 PM Response to Reply #215 |
223. Being an atheist doesn't preclude recognizing religious history . . . |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #223 |
224. Who the fuck are you quoting? |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-10 05:14 AM Response to Reply #224 |
235. A bit of Googling turned up this |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #235 |
237. That page looks like it was written by a schizophrenic |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-10 08:48 PM Response to Reply #235 |
238. Of course, women wouldn't understand male-supremacy if Mary Daly |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-10 05:11 AM Response to Reply #223 |
234. You haven't answered my fundamental question |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-10 09:23 PM Response to Reply #234 |
239. Why did males turn to violence . . . ??? |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:42 AM Response to Reply #207 |
217. You are a religious fundamentalist, and "patriarchy" is your version of "Satan". |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 09:02 PM Response to Reply #217 |
220. I see . . . I'm to blame for patriarchy's oppression of women --- |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 09:26 PM Response to Reply #220 |
221. Once again showing what a fundy you are... |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #220 |
240. Awww, don't feel bad |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 05:32 PM Response to Reply #176 |
189. Until the y unleash them all at once |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 07:11 PM Response to Reply #104 |
192. police POLTICIANS are not all cops. IACP does not represent line cops |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #97 |
123. Ah, the paranoia canard... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #123 |
132. Try reading more slowly . . . |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #132 |
138. Ah, you didn't use "paranoia," nor do you push "ignore." |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #138 |
148. Again . . . |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:29 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. Guns aren't ONLY instruments of violence however, and screaming the same |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. And you're bragging about all of that -- !!! |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #98 |
112. Bragging? What kind of assinine response is that?! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #112 |
133. You feel "compelled" obviously . . . |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 09:31 AM Response to Reply #92 |
122. If "male gang rapes" and patriarchy are so vile, why disarm in the face of them? nt |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #122 |
166. Religious freedom |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 07:09 PM Response to Reply #92 |
191. there was no "wild west" |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #92 |
205. The hits just keep coming. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #81 |
91. My post was to explain why I support gun ownership ... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. And, it would help if you read my reply to that post . . . |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #99 |
110. True, on re-reading you post, you did say that. (n/t) |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #81 |
167. The guy in Walmart was a jackass who wouldn't stop playing with a loaded weapon |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #167 |
194. and as soon as he started pulling the gun out of holster and playing with it |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 07:25 PM Response to Reply #194 |
196. I'm with you. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #81 |
204. Uh what? |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #45 |
120. Some here play the fall-guy to a "T" when it comes to Teabaggers... |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Gun-woundings? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. You've never heard that our hospitals treat gun shot woundings? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. My wife treats them at a hospital in NC They are almost ALL |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #46 |
93. As long as you're talking about costs, at least have the integrity |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:40 PM Response to Reply #93 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. The 2nd amendment has an opening clause . . . militia "well-regulated" ... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:38 PM Response to Reply #103 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #108 |
149. Whatever the alleged "right" .... it is stipulated it must be "well-regulated" . . .!! |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #149 |
163. The "well regulated" applies to the militia, not to "the Right of the People". n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 09:04 AM Response to Reply #163 |
175. "Well-regulated" applies to whatever the right is . . . |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 09:48 AM Response to Reply #175 |
179. Grammar's not your strong suit, is it? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #179 |
180. So you want a militia without guns and arms . . . ??? Is that it? |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 01:57 PM Response to Reply #180 |
185. A double barreled shotgun or rifle is considered "well-regulated" |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 05:53 AM Response to Reply #180 |
200. If you examine the Militia Act of 1792... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #200 |
208. Read the 2nd amendment without the opening clause and then explain to me |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 05:14 AM Response to Reply #208 |
211. I have now told you TWICE why the prefatory clause is there |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #211 |
212. You can repeat that nonsense ad infinitum . . . and it is still meaningless in |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #212 |
225. Should we bow before your Omniscient-ness... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #225 |
226. If you can bow . . . |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #226 |
227. Violence in self-defense... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #227 |
228. Right ... someone might spit on you -- !!! |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-17-10 12:33 AM Response to Reply #228 |
229. What ever are you so frantic about about? n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-17-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #229 |
230. You didn't read the article about the shooting? |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #103 |
171. No it doesn't |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 09:35 AM Response to Reply #103 |
178. oh hell, not another one..... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #178 |
181. In a patriarchy, do you seriously think that women who are anti-war will come to power? |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 05:24 PM Response to Reply #181 |
188. Matriarchy unmasked. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #178 |
195. not to mention that women DO have testosterone |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 09:35 PM Response to Reply #100 |
158. "If you're concerned about crime, understand that poverty breeds crime" |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 07:25 PM Response to Reply #158 |
197. poverty in and of itself does not breed crime |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 09:35 AM Response to Reply #197 |
213. Let's be clear that the elites are our criminals . . . . . and that their crimes are |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 09:03 AM Response to Reply #18 |
119. And you suggest what kind of prohibition/control shown to work? nt |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 08:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
117. Any supporting data? How 'bout the Nat'l Safety Council? nt |
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poverlay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. Hate my lawmakers. They suck so very very much. We need our Janet back. She was all that was |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 11:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. OMG, you Zonies will now be just like....Vermonters |
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poverlay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Does Vermont have similar laws? And did you just call me Francis??? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 10:32 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Yes, Vermont doesn't require a permit to carry concealed. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
54. To the best of my knowledge Vermont has no permit process whatsoever. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #54 |
72. I'll have to complain to my brother-in-law.. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:07 AM Response to Reply #72 |
79. It might be a very-well kept secret, but I haven't heard of it. |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #72 |
173. Might be confused with Alaska, which does fit that description |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. Yes, and yes. However, I do promise not to call you Shirley. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
198. clearly, then artisinal cheese prevents violence |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #198 |
202. Nah, it's all those Phish bootlegs. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #202 |
203. careful man, there is a beverage here nt |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
61. "Lighten up, Francis" is a movie reference |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Must be the "blood in the streets".... |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-10 08:51 AM Response to Reply #63 |
236. It's the iron |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
76. Deleted message |
tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 04:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
172. Yes they do |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 09:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
125. "They're coming to take you away, ha-ha; they're coming to take you... |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:23 AM Response to Original message |
5. Wait a fucking minute. The house has 435 members. How can 55 members pass a law like this? |
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Angleae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:29 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Arizona state house. Total 60 members. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
77. Deleted message |
orbitalman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:58 AM Response to Original message |
7. This shit just keeps cropping up... |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:11 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Actually when every one of the 45 states |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:26 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Every single fucking day there are people killed by guns |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:33 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Every day people are killed with |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 10:08 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. That's just not logical |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
33. Every single fucking day there are fewer people killed by guns |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
36. More guns does not equal more crime ... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
57. The homicide rates are... wait for it... falling. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
65. Killed *with* guns, not *by* guns, and at least 80% of the shooters possessed the gun illegally |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 09:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
126. Please check the crime rates over the last 15 years... |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
174. You understand that this legislation has no impact on the number of guns right? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. GOP/NRA has been working on this for decades . . . violence kills democracy . . . |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. The same laws sure killed democracy in Vermont, didn't they? |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. I have asked this poster |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #37 |
183. That's because before men evolved |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #19 |
127. Are you really so afraid of the "GOP/NRA" that you would disarm in front of them? nt |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. My god, look at vermont, its worse than newark or camden NJ, oh wait |
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Mother Smuckers (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
40. The 'wild west' you apparently have in mind existed only as faulty memories of Hollywood writers. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
55. Got statistical evidence to support your emotional (and fiction-based) assertion? n/t |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
12. Too many nutballs all in one place. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
58. Painting a whole state with one wide brush... |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 10:00 AM Response to Reply #12 |
128. The other "nutballs" are in Vermont; huge crime rate in that right-wing hell-hole. nt |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
14. Good. One less thing to worry about when I travel in the Zone. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. What might that be? Other people with guns? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. No, it means I have the choice of carrying open or concealed |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. What do you fear . . . ? Other people with guns . . . ??? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. i fear bitey ants and spiders that can jump, especially those furry bastards |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I fear all the bad drivers on the road causing collisions, injury, and death |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
47. You planning to shoot lousey drivers? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #47 |
67. No, of course not. What a silly question. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #67 |
82. ... based on your silly post . . . |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Why are you so afraid of people exercising their rights? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:51 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. What right? There's an opening clause .... or do you want tanks and atomic bombs, as well? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #48 |
59. "There's an opening clause..." |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:11 PM Response to Reply #59 |
69. You're denying there is an "opening clause" . . . ???? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
75. Still trying to make that turd float? |
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armueller2001 (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
87. Just for historical accuracy's sake... |
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HALO141 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
141. Just curious... Who are the Morans? n/t |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. I fear people who persistently misrepresent history trying to reorder society. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. You're unhappy with your fellow-gun-toters . . . the T-baggers . . . ? Why? |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #49 |
62. I'm afraid that some of them might be those vegan Cro-Magnons... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. I think your story begins and ends with "I'm afraid . . . " --- |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 10:06 AM Response to Reply #49 |
129. Why do you live in fear?.... |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Clowns, Zombies, and Velociraptors. Nothing a good .45acp couldn't handle. |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. I'll give you the clowns and zombies, |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. REAL life velociraptors only stood about 3ft tall and weighed 30lbs. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:11 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Utahraptor |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. get(Desert_Eagle)... load == point_five_oh... /raptor (n/t) |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. You kill it, you have to clean it, cook it and eat it. |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
109. LMAO! |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #43 |
199. Undoubtedly. :-) |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. About that time I would want a Ma Deuce with a full belt. N/T |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. I am thinking something with a bit more distant reach. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
60. Mossberg pump n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
51. I see . . . |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:04 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. No, dont mess around with zombies. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #53 |
162. .22LR to the head. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
64. Some people hallucinate vegan Neaderthals, others zombies. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #64 |
83. You're prepared with all of them . . . |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Deleted message |
cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
78. Nope |
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tucsonlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
71. I Got My Permit The Old Fashioned Way |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #71 |
85. Just be happy your stopped-clock legislature did *one thing* right |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 10:15 AM Response to Reply #71 |
130. Arizona wastes time on "hot-button, cultural, "moral" issues because... |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #71 |
164. Well, maybe the concealed-carry bill burned up enough time to stop something else from passing. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
73. California next!!!!! |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #73 |
105. Hope you're right! n/t |
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88. Is blood running in the arroyos yet? |
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154. Whether it is or not is unimportant to the more religiously oriented gun controllers |
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