(Crime all but guaranteed to skyrocket! But anyway,) Good Luck Brazil!

[Dolomite]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20031210/wl_nm/brazil_guns_dc_1

I’m sure that they’ll have no trouble setting up that gun registry!
(I hear that Canada’s is going to be available on eBay real soon - maybe they should go up and kick the tires on that one?)

[MrBenchley]

1. Dupe

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=118&topic_id=27691#27765

[SlavesandBulldozers]

2. They have different considerations in Brazil

When the class divide in the United States becomes like that of Brazil, the elites in this country will do the exact same thing. They will say, "O.K. we've had enough of this 2nd Amendment". Give Bush 4 more years to destroy the middle-class and we'll find out his real stance on gun ownership, which is "arm the rich, disarm the poor."

[billbuckhead]

3. We know it will go up when JohnLott-MaryRosh do a "study"

:puke:

[MrBenchley]

4. Brazill has 40,000 gun murders a year....

It's already skyrocketed...

What kind of idiot thinks "more guns" is the answer to that level of bloodshed?

[Township75]

5. Hey, Bench!

With all of that support for new gun control, wouldn't it be great to move down there and enjoy a gun control society?

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[MrBenchley]

8. Gee, gato

why is it that the actual fascists are peddling that bogus gun rights crap, do you suppose?

[el_gato]

9. gee bench, why do you want Ashcroft to have more power over us?

[MrBenchley]

11. You still peddling this crap, gato?

I'm not the one pimping for AshKKKroft's agenda and his phony gun rights rubbish...that would be you.

[el_gato]

12. Your the one that wants to give up more of our rights to Ashcroft

don't blame me for your prostrate behaviour

[MrBenchley]

13. Not even close to true, gato...

YOU are the one peddling his bogus gun rights horseshit.

[el_gato]

16. you are the one that wants to give him more power

it's very clear bench

[TexasMexican]

10. an anecdote

In the case of all the school shootings, a criminal/s armed with firearms, took them to a place where it was illegal to have them and then they murdered unarmed civillians.

Just a day or so after that shotgun school killings in Germany there was a news story about how two biker gangs both armed with plenty of handguns and whatnot got in a fight and started shooting each other in some Casino in Las Vegas.

Funny how the inicdent with more guns (the two biker gangs shooting each other) had alot few deaths than the incident with one shotgun.

I dont remember exactly how many people died in that German school shooting, but if I remember correctly no one died in the Vegas shooting.

[Kellanved]

14. eighteen people

And no shotgun was used by the killer. He carried one, but only used his handgun (Glock 77).

[Romulus]

15. "Glock 77" (bwahhahha)

I'd sure like to see that one - kind of like Bruce Willis's "Glock 7 ceramic pistol" in Die Hard II (ROFL)

[Kellanved]

19. that's what the article says

I don't know anything about guns, nor do I have any intention to change that.

Other articles say Glock 17. :shrug:



http://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/152699.html

[MrBenchley]

20. Gee, so I guess the answer

according to the RKBA crowd is not to try to control guns (so that shootings like the one in Germany become a rarity instead of a commonplace occurance as they are here) but to have more shootouts in public places between armed lowlifes.

Wow, RKBA "logic"...every day I grow more grateful I ain't got a speck of whatever it is rattling around inside those skulls.

[Romulus]

7. I thought Brazil already

had mandatory gun registration? Isn't registration supposed to control the flow of firearms to the black market? I guess we've been lied to . . .

The disarmament statute aims to control the flow of legal arms into the swelling arms black market, now thought to contain up to 20 million handguns. . . .

The Federal Police are going to take over registration of guns from state authorities and create a national firearm registry.

This related story takes the cake:
http://www.brazzil.com/2003/html/news/articles/nov03/p118nov03.htm

In a city where there are too many guns and too little trust in the police to protect citizens, the people have spoken out against firearms.

So what are they trying to accomplish? 20 million illegal firearms, no police protection, so you demand that the government take away your right to choose how to keep yourself safe?

[DoNotRefill]

17. I hope they're happy with it.

Of course, I seem to remember that one of the big violence problems there was something to do with death squads made up of off-duty police officers being paid by merchants to shoot street kids.

Since police officers will be exempt, I'd expect that problem will not go away anytime soon.

[CO Liberal]

18. It Might Point The Finger At The "Death Squads" - n/t