Mass stabbings in bar fight. Four stabbed on West Coast, Mid-West, East Coast.

[GreenStormCloud]

Four men stabbed in San Jose bar fight
SAN JOSE, CA -- San Jose police will arrest three men suspected of assaulting a fourth man at a bar in the city early this morning, a police sergeant said.


At 12:23 a.m. today, San Jose police received reports of a fight in the parking lot of Alex's 49er Inn bar, located at 2214 Business Circle near Bascom Avenue, according to Sgt. Ronnie Lopez.

A witness reported that between eight and 10 people appeared to be fighting and were throwing beer bottles, Lopez said.

While San Jose police were on their way to the scene, deputies with the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office stopped a vehicle carrying three men who suffered stab wounds, Lopez said

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/south_bay&id=7141673

And on the other coast, a few months ago:

Four Stabbed At After-Party For Biggie Smalls Movie "Notorious"
NEW YORK — Police say four men were stabbed at a New York City nightclub advertising an after-party for the film premiere of "Notorious" about rapper Biggie Smalls.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/17/four-stabbed-at-after-par_n_158821.html

And in the middle, between the coasts:

Four Stabbed in Fight at West Loop Club
Victim in critical condition
Charges were pending Saturday against a man who police say stabbed four other men -- seriously wounding two of them -- in a fight at a West Loop bar early Saturday. All five men were hospitalized Saturday.
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/archive/Four-stabbed-in-fight-at-West-Loop-club-washington-blvd-chicago.html

Four Stabbed At Chelsea Nightclub
Another weekend, another violent incident at a nightclub. Earlier this morning, four people were stabbed at Chelsea nightclub Promenade, on West 28th between 7th and 8th Avenues. The AP reports, "Police say four men were stabbed during a dispute that broke out at about 4:30 Sunday morning," and WABC 7 has a few more details: "Two patrons and four of the club's workers got into some sort of scuffle as the patrons exited the club...A fight broke out, and police say one patron stabbed four of the workers." The victims are in stable conditions while two suspects were arrested. Charges are pending. http://gothamist.com/2009/03/29/four_stabbed_at_chelsea_nightclub.php

Four Stabbed in Watts, Two with Wounds to Their Head
Four people, including the suspect, were stabbed earlier this morning on a block of single family homes in Watts. Two of the females victims, aged 68 and 20, were stabbed in the head and were listed in serious and stable condition, respectively. Another 20-year-old female suffered a minor wound. The suspect, a male, was also stabbed and sent to the hospital with unknown injuries, but the LAPD has confirmed he is now in custody. "It's still unfolding," an officer said over the phone speaking to the unknown nature what happened.
http://laist.com/2009/03/05/four_stabbed_in_watts.php

Four stabbed at party, two of them arrested
WHITTIER -- Four people were stabbed in a fight at a house party late Saturday, and two of them were arrested on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon.
http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvcrime/2009/08/four-stabbed-at-party-two-of-t.html

Is four a magic number? No. I was searching for a particular new item for another post and googled "four stabbed" in their news section and got bunches of hits. The above are just a sample.

Let's go for five. Lots of hits. Here is one:

Five Stabbed Outside Tribeca Nightclub
Five people out partying in Tribeca last night ended up stabbing victims after a fight broke out outside a nightclub
http://gothamist.com/2009/02/28/five_stabbed_outside_tribeca_nightc.php

Six? Multiple hits. Here is one:

Six stabbed at Shoreline concert Saturday
Police ended a Shoreline Amphitheatre concert early on Saturday night after at least six people were stabbed in the lawn seating area.

Amphitheatre security called Mountain View police at 9:30 p.m. Saturday for backup after fighting and stabbings got out of control at the Kiss FM Old School Fiesta concert.
http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/show_story.php?id=12560

Seven? Multiple hits. Here is one:
7 Stabbed in Nightclub Brawl
AP Reporting

Police say as many as seven men were stabbed during a quarrel at a nightclub in New York City. Two are in critical condition.

The bloody fight erupted around 4 a.m. Sunday inside the Tahona club in the Queens neighborhood of Astoria.
http://queenscrap.blogspot.com/2008/09/seven-stabbed-at-steinway-street-club.html

[Jim Sagle]

1. Shouldn't this go in the Knives folder?

:)

[GreenStormCloud]

3. No. You didn't read the last part of my post, did you?

My point is that knife crime is largely ignored by the media but gun crime gets lots of attention, even though there is more knife crime.

[SteveM]

20. So, you use folding knives?

Ba-da-boom.

[virgogal]

2. You know you really do have a point. Multiple stabbings are not

treated in the same manner as multiple shootings.

[geckosfeet]

4. Well - I am not an anti but common sense says that one of those folks

had a gun he would have used that instead of a knife.

[GreenStormCloud]

5. And common sense also says that if the victims had been armed, they could have saved themselves.

In fact, the presense of a gun tends to be an inhibiting factor towards fights.

But my point is that knife violence tends to be ignored while gun violence is played up.

[Euromutt]

12. That's kind of the point, innit?

Evidently, none of these bozos had a firearm, but that didn't stop any of them from engaging in potentially lethal violent behavior. The problem isn't the weapon, it's the guy holding it.

[JonQ]

6. But unlike shootings

these people chose to harm others. The weapon was incidental, they made the choice to attack another human being.

But in shootings it's the gun that is responsible, the person has no choice in the matter.

[era veteran]

7. Good thing they weren't using semi-automatic assault weapons

They could have actually killed a lot of people and still gotten their name in the paper. A lot of knife wounds, not so much deads. Thats my take.

[eqfan592]

8. Ever seen a knife wound?

Apparently not.

EDIT: And a semi-auto assault weapon is an oxymoron.

EDIT2: Your take fails to address the OP's point completely, and is beyond irrelevant. "Good thing it wasn't (insert implement here), there'd be a lot more dead people. That's my take." You've totally failed to address the real problem. In fact, when presented with the real problem, you basically ignore it and instead redirect back to the tired old "assault weapon" BS.

[divideandconquer]

LOOKS LIKE NOBODY DIED IN ALL THIS MAYHEM!

and you think this supports gunners?

[eqfan592]

11. Yep, just a bunch of maimed people.

The problem is obviously the guns in all these stabbings.

:crazy:

EDIT: you obviously didn't bother to read the entire OP, because you totally missed the point. Apparently being stabbed is preferable to being shot according to some, so much so that they feel it's not truly newsworthy when somebody is attacked with a knife.

The one thing that kills your argument in the end, divide, is that you can't find proof showing a decrease in the homicide and violent crime rates associated with any sort of firearms ban. Shoots your whole "the gun is the problem" theory in the ass. Not that you'd ever care about the facts anyway.

[GreenStormCloud]

13. Do you really think nobody died in 63 stabbings?

I didn't bother to google for follow-up news reports. My concern was with the way media treated the stabbings as trivial. But is they had been shootings, they would have been national news.

[AtheistCrusader]

9. No, most assault weapons are semi-auto.

All it takes is for a removable magazine on a rifle in California, for instance.

Assault weapon is whatever some retarded legislators decide it is. You were thinking of Assault Rifle, which is a military nomenclature.

[eqfan592]

10. ahh, true enough. (nt)

[Euromutt]

14. Not just a detachable mag

California's bad, but not quite that bad. The rifle also has to have one of the "scary" features (pistol grip, folding/collapsible stock, muzzle flash hider, bayonet lug, etc.) which under the 1994 federal AWB, the weapon had to have two of to be classed an "assault weapon."

[era veteran]

19. Wrong

Yes, I have been cut 3 times..... My M-16A1 had semi auto selector so what do you really fucking know? I sure did redirect back to that tired old assault weapon BS that I see posted by you freaking gun nuts. The cuts I received did not stop me winning these encounters. Oxymoran!

[Katya Mullethov]

15. A tune to set the mood for an epic thread

Where is VPC ? lol.
Probably over there at the open bar with the NRA and the ATF guys .


try this link
http://www.last.fm/music/The+Pine+Box+Boys/STAB%21/Stab

[struggle4progress]

16. "More than 2/3 of the 73+K homicides 2004-2008 are by firearm; about 1/2 of all are by handgun; less

than 1/8 are by knife. There are about 40 homicides, 27 firearm homicides, about 20 handgun homicides, and about 5 knife homicides daily in that period"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=271592&mesg_id=271660

[eqfan592]

17. But does getting rid of the guns get rid of the homicides?

Or do people simply move on to something different? You seem to think getting rid of the guns DOES get rid of the homicides. Provide evidence to prove this point out, please, though I can tell you right now you will find a difficult time doing so.

Oh, and a tip. Don't look for reductions in firearm crime in nations that institute strict firearm regulations/bans. The key stats are the overall violent crime rates, because you are selling the idea as reducing the overall violent crime rate, not just crimes committed with guns, because if people just start using something else (or continue to use the same thing) after the bans, then what have you accomplished other than disarming those who would not commit a crime in the first place?

[GreenStormCloud]

18. So you consider it OK to badly injure someone, as long as you don't kill them?

A stab wound is rarely a minor injury.

[SteveM]

21. So, are you proposing prohibition? If not, then what are you suggesting? (nt)

[cowcommander]

22. Clearly, we must look to our British brethren for a solution!