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doc03
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Wed Nov-12-08 11:36 PM Original message |
A question for all you Assault Weapon Ban supporters |
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Alamuti Lotus
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Wed Nov-12-08 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. True "assault weapons" are already banned |
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doc03
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Wed Nov-12-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. That's exactly my point, I have asked the same question |
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ManiacJoe
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Thu Nov-13-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
96. You mean "true assault rifles are already banned". |
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Testament
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Sat Nov-15-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
139. Form 4, 200 dollar tax stamp, background check, fingerprints, photos.. |
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napi21
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Wed Nov-12-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. An automatic military style weapon. |
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doc03
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Wed Nov-12-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Those are already banned unless you have a |
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napi21
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Wed Nov-12-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Then I don't understand your problem. |
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doc03
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Wed Nov-12-08 11:56 PM Original message |
You don't understand my problem? Just what guns are these |
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napi21
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
23. Then perhaps you should spend your time educating them |
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iverglas
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Mon Nov-17-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
146. oh, you weren't here before the election |
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baldguy
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Wed Nov-12-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Exactly - the style is more important than the function. |
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SteveM
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Sat Nov-15-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #9 |
117. Uh-oh, we might see those infamous gun coloring jobs, now (nt) |
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Spider Jerusalem
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Wed Nov-12-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. *bzzt* wrong |
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TheKentuckian
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Wed Nov-12-08 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. The left wing of the anti-liberty brigade |
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DainBramaged
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Thu Nov-13-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
53. Really, people who are concerned with the quantity of weapons on the market |
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SteveM
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Sat Nov-15-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #53 |
118. Hmm, YOUR comment is very interesting... |
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Joe Fields
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Wed Nov-12-08 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. fuck this splitting hairs bullshit. |
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doc03
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Wed Nov-12-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. All this talk of an AWB after going all over the country and |
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Joe Fields
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Wed Nov-12-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. If there's one issue that's dead as dead can be, it gun control. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Wed Nov-12-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Now that Obama finally removed the language from his website. |
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doc03
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I have seen it argued in other threads buy gun grabbers |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. It is still in the Democratic platform but Obama has removed it from change.gov. |
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Testament
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Sat Nov-15-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
140. It's back up there. LINKs |
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DainBramaged
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Thu Nov-13-08 01:19 AM Response to Reply #18 |
54. So we're gun grabbers now? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Thu Nov-13-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Don't know are you? |
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DainBramaged
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Thu Nov-13-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I occasionally grab my crotch when my panties are in a bunch |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Thu Nov-13-08 01:40 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Alrighty then. |
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SteveM
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Sat Nov-15-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
119. Actually, it is a resonable concern. Here is another: |
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raimius
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Mon Nov-17-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #6 |
141. It's not splitting hairs |
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MannyGoldstein
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Wed Nov-12-08 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
7. Atomic Bombs Are Arms |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. I believe that would hurt. |
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Wed Nov-12-08 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
14. So now that you have your answer . . . |
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Oregone
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Wed Nov-12-08 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
15. There is no objective definition yet... |
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Spider Jerusalem
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Rounds per minute, stopping power, etc? |
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Oregone
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #21 |
36. Thats all so ridiculous |
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Spider Jerusalem
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. An M-16 is a full-auto weapon, those are already banned under the 1934 National Firearms Act |
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Oregone
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:52 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. I mention it for the sake of discussion. |
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Spider Jerusalem
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Define sensible. |
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Oregone
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Thu Nov-13-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. You know, Im pretty reasonable... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Thu Nov-13-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #47 |
60. Why ban firearms that are used in less than 2% of crimes? |
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Oregone
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Thu Nov-13-08 01:59 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. How devastating are the crimes that they are used in? |
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jeepnstein
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Thu Nov-13-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
80. No, he's being honest.. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Fri Nov-14-08 12:37 AM Response to Reply #62 |
99. More people have been murdered with shotguns than rifles in each of the last 5 years. |
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SteveM
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Sat Nov-15-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #62 |
121. How devastating, by comparison, is a Remington 742 in .30-06? |
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benEzra
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Sat Nov-15-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #62 |
136. All rifles combined account for 3% of murders. Non-rifles account for 97%. (n/t) |
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SteveM
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Sat Nov-15-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #36 |
120. Never seen a kid (crazy or otherwise) with an M-16... |
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provis99
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Tue Nov-18-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #120 |
151. so banning guns works then? |
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ManiacJoe
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Wed Nov-19-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #151 |
153. Are you thinking that m16's are banned? |
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Thothmes
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Thu Nov-13-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
70. Do you have any proof to support the contention |
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DonP
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Fri Nov-14-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #70 |
103. It's called the "Mad Minute" |
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tisfortomi
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Mon Nov-17-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #103 |
147. Mad Minute |
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doc03
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. What's an assault weapon is silly, I am not the one that |
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Oregone
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #22 |
39. I disagree |
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Spider Jerusalem
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. You're obviously ignorant |
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Oregone
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Oh good, then fucking ban them. |
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Spider Jerusalem
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Thu Nov-13-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. A semiautomatic weapon is not an assault rifle. |
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Oregone
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Thu Nov-13-08 01:15 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. As I earlier mentioned, Im not considering the definition of "assault rifle" |
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C-Mac
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Thu Nov-13-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. I agree completely |
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jeepnstein
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Thu Nov-13-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #51 |
88. How many... |
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Iktomiwicasa
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
132. Hello? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Thu Nov-13-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
61. You realize of course that those tactical shotguns would be banned also. |
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Oregone
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Thu Nov-13-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Show me where they would be... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Thu Nov-13-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #63 |
86. I thought it was a tactical semi-auto. |
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SteveM
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Sat Nov-15-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #63 |
122. Well, let's try this: |
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Farmall
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Thu Nov-13-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
71. Pure Ignorance |
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krispos42
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Fri Nov-14-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
105. And their can't be |
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AtheistCrusader
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Fri Nov-14-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
107. Not true, it is defined. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Wed Nov-12-08 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
16. Scary looking guns that function no differently that many common hunting rifles. |
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Tankman1989
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
20. What anti-gun people think can't happen |
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uberllama42
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Sat Nov-15-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
137. lol wut? |
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CreekDog
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
24. i don't know every chemical that's banned either, does that mean they should be legal? |
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doc03
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. The Second Amendment doesn't give you any |
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CreekDog
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. the second amendment doesn't give you the right to own an assault weapon |
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jmg257
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Thu Nov-13-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
77. You are correct - it doesn't give the right - it only secures it. But why argue? |
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jeepnstein
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Thu Nov-13-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #29 |
83. What? |
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Posteritatis
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Thu Nov-13-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
85. The First Amendment doesn't give you a right to blog either |
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SteveM
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Sat Nov-15-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #29 |
123. The constitution doesn't give you the right to use your computer... |
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Why the hell not? I should have the right to keep chemical weapons, should I not? |
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SteveM
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Sat Nov-15-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #33 |
124. Your argument has been picked over ad nausem for year. |
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Thu Nov-13-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
91. If you are going to be picky the 2nd ammendment was written when |
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benEzra
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Thu Nov-13-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
92. "Assault weapon" is the "dihydrogen monoxide" of guns. (n/t) |
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aikoaiko
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
25. I do not support any Federal gun bans, but for the sake of precision... |
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doc03
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Wow! Only the government could come up with something |
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ContinentalOp
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Wow, so you're against gun control... |
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doc03
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. I deal with OSHA and EPA rules everyday at work |
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ContinentalOp
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Thu Nov-13-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #42 |
50. Shocking! Appalling! |
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doc03
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Thu Nov-13-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #50 |
66. It is shocking and appalling, the EPA knows exactly where |
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SteveM
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Sat Nov-15-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #50 |
127. Did you read the post or are you into bureaucratic inflexibility? (nt) |
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SteveM
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Sat Nov-15-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #34 |
126. To push for gun control is to push the GOP agenda... |
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aikoaiko
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Its an abomination. |
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Thu Nov-13-08 02:44 AM Response to Reply #31 |
65. Really? Your gun wouldn't hurt a fly? Well how about a human? n/t |
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SteveM
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Sat Nov-15-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #25 |
125. 'b-36'. Wasn't that a bomber? Oh, wait, it still is (nt) |
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FreeState
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
26. Im against all personal gun ownership - guess that makes me bad n/t |
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Farmall
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Thu Nov-13-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
74. Not bad, just ignorant of history |
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jody
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Fri Nov-14-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #74 |
113. Welcome to DU’s Guns-Fortress where Democrats defend RKBA protected by the Second Amendment against |
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Fri Nov-14-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
112. i find it ironic that someone would make a statement like that |
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SteveM
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Sat Nov-15-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #26 |
128. I know a lot of prohibitionists, but most aren't "bad"... |
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
28. Here's how a country that's no longer plagued with mass shootings does it: |
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jeepnstein
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Thu Nov-13-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
89. Doesn't sound very appealing to me. |
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Pavulon
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #28 |
115. They banned the internet too. 10K sites gone.. mindsets |
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RB TexLa
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
30. Not a supporter but I know the answer. Semi automatic weapons that look scary. |
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DU GrovelBot
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
32. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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ContinentalOp
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
35. Ooh, aren't you sassy? |
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Hekate
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
38. Now do a post about Pit Bull haters |
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doc03
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Thu Nov-13-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #38 |
46. My brother has a pit bull and she is a sweet |
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Fri Nov-14-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #38 |
98. In North Florida I see a lot of well trained pit bulls... |
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DainBramaged
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Thu Nov-13-08 01:11 AM Response to Original message |
49. Can it hold a clip of more than 7 or 8 rounds? Is it based on a military weapon? |
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ContinentalOp
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Thu Nov-13-08 01:15 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. "I don't know who even eats duck" |
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SteveM
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
130. I eat them. And I get them au-naturel with a shotgun using non-toxic shot (nt) |
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ManiacJoe
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Thu Nov-13-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #49 |
97. Some answers. |
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SteveM
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #49 |
129. Head-hurting almost always follows drinking a bottle of "Ol' Prohi": |
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Mon Nov-17-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
144. These discussions also hurt my head |
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DainBramaged
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Thu Nov-13-08 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
59. One last point |
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Thothmes
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Thu Nov-13-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
72. The native americans |
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jeepnstein
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Thu Nov-13-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #59 |
81. What happened to all those Native Americans? |
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spin
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Fri Nov-14-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #81 |
100. They opened up casinos and sell cigarettes.. |
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Posteritatis
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Thu Nov-13-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #59 |
87. Ban Assault Bows Now! |
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SteveM
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
131. Oh, why stop there? |
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JonQ
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Mon Nov-17-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #59 |
145. And those real men |
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Thu Nov-13-08 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
64. The reality is an assault weapon is whatever federal law says it is. |
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Thu Nov-13-08 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
67. Can anyone here tell me what a "barrel shroud" is? |
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spin
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Fri Nov-14-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #67 |
101. What ever it is it is bad,and nasty and enables... |
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jeepnstein
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Fri Nov-14-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #101 |
106. Got any data to prove your point? |
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spin
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Fri Nov-14-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Oops, forgot to add the sarcasm tag. (n/t) |
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jeepnstein
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Fri Nov-14-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. I should have know better. |
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fascisthunter
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Thu Nov-13-08 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
68. For Me Anything That is Automatic/Semi-automatics should be Banned |
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Pavulon
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #68 |
116. search "tatp" on youtube.. then ban the ingredients, oh wait |
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raimius
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Mon Nov-17-08 02:10 AM Response to Reply #68 |
143. The ability to kill in a short time is a poor metric |
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Thu Nov-13-08 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
69. nwmhtt |
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Political Tiger
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Thu Nov-13-08 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
73. Q: What is the difference between semi-automatic hunting rifles and semi-automatic assault weapons? |
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Thu Nov-13-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Q. What is the difference between semi-auto assault weapons, and arms secured by the Constitution? |
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Political Tiger
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Thu Nov-13-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Q: What have the courts said about the federal assault weapons ban? |
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jmg257
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Thu Nov-13-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #79 |
90. A. "the USSC refused to hear a challenge." BUT, In US vs Miller, the USSC stated... |
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jmg257
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Thu Nov-13-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #79 |
94. A#2. In Heller vs DC, the USSC also added a few key points that would go against an AWB, & |
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aikoaiko
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Thu Nov-13-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #73 |
93. Allow me to respond to those points. |
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SteveM
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #93 |
133. Thanks for clearing up the GOP-Brady Center propaganda. Some more... |
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benEzra
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Thu Nov-13-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #73 |
95. You've been had by the repubs at the Brady Campaign... |
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X_Digger
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Fri Nov-14-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #95 |
110. And actually, silencers aren't illegal, just heavily regulated |
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MattBaggins
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Thu Nov-13-08 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
75. Do you know how Loki kept his head? |
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Thu Nov-13-08 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
78. Any weapon pointed at me! |
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Thu Nov-13-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Exactly. Ban them all |
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Thu Nov-13-08 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
84. A gun that "looks scary" |
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Fri Nov-14-08 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
102. An experts opinion |
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Fri Nov-14-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Ah, that old (and long-debunked) canard... |
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #104 |
114. Neither canard nor long debunked. |
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Sat Nov-15-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #114 |
134. Sorry, not tough for me. I'll go with Ben Ezra on this one. |
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Sat Nov-15-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #114 |
135. OK, show me, of the issues I raised, where I'm wrong and he's right... |
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Sat Nov-15-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. Oops, typo---he says .45 is more powerful than .223/7.62x39, I said it's not. It's not. (n/t) |
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Mon Nov-17-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #138 |
142. russ1943 are you there? |
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Tue Nov-18-08 02:51 AM Response to Reply #135 |
148. You've debunked, nothing. |
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Tue Nov-18-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #148 |
149. Because... |
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Tue Nov-18-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #149 |
150. benEzra, Like Heracles you never tire! |
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Wed Nov-19-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #150 |
152. At the moment, I feel more Thomas Hockenberry than Heracles... |
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Fri Nov-14-08 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
111. Obviously any mechanical item which discharges a projectile. |
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