So how do criminals get their guns? Here's one source.

[L1A1Rocker]

Officer's Truck Full Of Weapons Stolen

http://www.kpho.com/news/15750183/detail.html

PEORIA, Ariz. -- A police officer's pickup truck, loaded with the officer's personal weapons, was stolen Sunday night from the parking lot of a Peoria bar.

Inside the truck, police said, were two .40-caliber Glock pistols with 100 rounds of ammunition, an AR-15 assault rifle with five fully loaded magazines, a ballistic vest, police uniforms and IDs, flat badges and wallet badges.




The article later sates that it is believed that the stolen items are heading for the border.

[mikelgb]

1. oh how quaint

[L1A1Rocker]

5. I thought so too.

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[uppityperson]

3. "Anyone who sees it is asked to call 911." Do not try to apprehend on your own.

I love that last sentence.

[L1A1Rocker]

4. HaHaHa

Well Duh.

[iverglas]

6. hey, why shouldn't he

have all that shit and behave just as irresponsibly with it as hundreds of thousands of others in his country?

Is it, like, ILLEGAL to have that stuff in yr pickup truck in Arizona?

I'll assume not. So your bellyaching is based on ...? If he hadn't been a cop, would you be retailing this tale with such zest? Were no firearms stolen from any other pickup trucks in the US this week? Forgive me if I'd think it an unusual week, if so.

Meck said the weapons were the personal property of the El Mirage officer, who until recently worked for Flagstaff police as part of the special weapons and tactics unit. The officer has worked for El Mirage police for a few weeks.

Now, where I'm at, a pece officer would be permitted to have such "personal property" only if he qualified for the appropriate firearms permit -- as either a collector or a sports shooter (both AR-15s and handguns being classified as restricted weapons, lawfully possessed only by people who qualify as one of those).

As a collector, he would be absolutely prohibited from trucking his shit around, unless he were taking it to a show or a sale or such, and had obtained a transportation permit beforehand.

As a sports shooter, he would also be prohibited from trucking it around, except in accordance with the terms of the permit he had to transport it from the premises where he was authorized to keep it to the approved premises where he used it for practice or competition.


http://www.canlii.org/ca/regu/sor98-206/whole.html
Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations

http://www.canlii.org/ca/regu/sor98-209/whole.html
Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations

TRANSPORTATION OF RESTRICTED FIREARMS

11. An individual may transport a restricted firearm only if

(a) it is unloaded;

(b) it is rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device;

(c) it is in a locked container that is made of an opaque material and is of such strength, construction and nature that it cannot readily be broken open or into or accidentally opened during transportation; and

(d) if it is in a container described in paragraph (c) that is in an unattended vehicle,

(i) when the vehicle is equipped with a trunk or similar compartment that can be securely locked, the container is in that trunk or compartment and the trunk or compartment is securely locked, and
(ii) when the vehicle is not equipped with a trunk or similar compartment that can be securely locked, the vehicle, or the part of the vehicle that contains the container, is securely locked and the container is not visible from outside the vehicle.

Of course, if somebody takes the whole vehicle, well whaddaya do? Random vehicle theft by thieves who hit their lucky day, or targeted theft of vehicle with firearms, in this case?

So now may I blame somebody for negligently making firearms available to bad people even if s/he didn't break the law??

There it was just looking like I wasn't allowed to do that:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=164950&mesg_id=164994

The firearm owner gets blamed for being reckless as to what happens to his/her firearm.
Regardless of what actually happens to it.

Or may I only do it if the culprit is a cop?

[slackmaster]

7. Yeah, that's what Arizona needs - A law against stupidity

:rofl:

[iverglas]

10. I assume you posted in the wrong place

Otherwise, it might be apparent to the interested reader how your fit of hysterics related to my post.

[L1A1Rocker]

14. Actually it was very clever commentary on you post.

[L1A1Rocker]

13. Good point.

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[enfield collector]

23. IMHO

"Is it, like, ILLEGAL to have that stuff in yr pickup truck in Arizona?"

I thought it was mandatory to have at least that amount of guns in your truck here in the great state of Arizona. You never know when you're going to run into the mexican army riding shotgun for drug dealers on US soil.

[liberal4truth]

8. They break into your homes, your vehicles, and your own body and take them. Thats where lots of guns

come from. You gun nuts supply the criminals with a ready supply of firearms,
and you always have.

Lots of you get killed with your own guns, each year!

[bossy22]

9. wow...guess im not attentive at night

my guns must break out of their safe, shake off their trigger lock, load themselves and then shoot people

btw do you have facts to back up your statement (i dont know why im asking you this, i know the answer already)

[iverglas]

11. I'll bet gun thefts have done *down* in the last decade

You bet I do. Snork.

http://www.ncjrs.org/txtfiles/165476.txt

MENU TITLE: Guns in America: National Survey on Private Ownership and Use of Firearms.
Series: NIJ Research in Brief
Published: May 1997
by Philip J. Cook and Jens Ludwig

o About 211,000 handguns and 382,000 long guns were stolen in noncommercial thefts in 1994.

o Slightly more than half of all privately owned firearms were stored unlocked; 16 percent of firearms were stored unlocked and loaded.

Thefts. A major theme highlighted in a 1986 survey of incarcerated felons was that theft was an important means of obtaining firearms for those with criminal intentions: 32 percent of surveyed felons had stolen their most recently acquired handgun.

Based on the NSPOF, an estimated 0.9 percent of all gun-owning households (269,000) experienced the theft of one or more firearms during 1994. About 211,000 handguns and 382,000 long guns were stolen in noncommercial thefts that year, for a total of 593,000 stolen firearms. Those estimates are subject to considerable sampling error but are consistent with earlier estimates of about half a million guns stolen annually.

A half a fucking milion guns stolen (more than that, and not counting commercial thefts) in one year.

And they were all used for, uh, self-defence ever after.

I mean, drug dealers are entitled to defend themselves, right?


Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help.

[L1A1Rocker]

12. Kinda shoots a hole in the idea that criminals are purchasing their guns from FFLs

[iverglas]

15. Nah, just a third. Not a whole.

[L1A1Rocker]

16. Again, nothing to say but only to stir up BS

[L1A1Rocker]

18. Facts? Why let facts get in the way of good hyperbole? My "body" broken HaHaHa

[L1A1Rocker]

17. I've never had any of my guns stolen. . .or my "body" broken for them. HaHa

[iverglas]

19. speaking of not attentive

The statement you apparently think you are responding to was:

They break into your homes, your vehicles, and your own body and take them.

Lemme help you out.

They break into your homes, your vehicles, and your own body and take them.

So I'm sure we're all fascinated to hear, repeatedly, that you've never had your body broken for something, but maybe you could go tell someone someplace where it might matter next time.

If you actually want to claim not to have grasped the meaning of that sentence ... well, I'm sure I won't try to stop you.


Oh, I remembered the name I was trying to think of the other day when there was a little discussion of your bizarre posting.

Good old Mrs. Malaprop.



http://www.alphadictionary.com/goodword/word/malapropism

• malapropism •

Part of Speech:
Noun

Meaning:
A homophone or near homophone (word that sounds like another) of the word intended, curiously out of place in the sentence in which it occurs.

Notes:

As you might expect, someone given to committing malapropisms is a malapropist because of their malapropistic (the adjective) expressions. Composer Leonard Bernstein was speaking malapropistically (the adverb) when he claimed to be suffering from a 'psychosemitic' illness.

In Play:
Let us begin at the source, Mrs. Malaprop's malapropisms (see Word History):
"(P)romise to forget this fellow—to illiterate him, I say, quite from your memory."

"I would have her instructed in geometry, that she might know something of the contagious countries."

Here are a few others from various fictional and nonfictional characters:
"…Vito's passing, and all that that entrails."
—Tony Soprano
"We cannot let terrorists and rogue nations hold this nation hostile or hold our allies hostile."
—George W. Bush
"Republicans understand the importance of the bondage between a mother and child."
—Dan Quayle, former US Vice President
"Marlow quickly plummeted to the top and now is at the very pineapple of his career."
—Various sources

You're in, uh, lustrous company.

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[virginia mountainman]

24. LOL, this cop dumps them in a city sewer...

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/120712526318500.xml&coll=2