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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:17 AM
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Higher stakes with Heller than we thought?

Tara Henigan, 42, a resident of Falls Church, Virginia, stood outside the court wearing a sticker that read: "Guns Don't Die, People Do."

"I'm fascinated how people can think it is an individual right. A 'well-regulated militia' means 'military service,'" she said.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/world/view/20080319-125662/US-Supreme-Court-hears-historic-gun-rights-case


"She is survived by a daughter and son-in-law, Cathy and Steve Habeger of
Pocomoke City, Md., and a son and daughter-in-law, Dennis and Tara Henigan
of Falls Church, Va."

http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/somerset/obits/h2/henigan-palma-l.txt

"Tara henigan" would would appear to be the wife of the bradys Dennis Henigan. Whats got me curious, is that hers is a name I can not recall seeing or hearing over the years in the gun debate.

Is it meaningful that her name was added to the mix here and now or just happenstance?

Is this case is bigger than they publicly let on?


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Turbo Teg Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:01 AM
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1. I'm facinated how people can think it's not an indivdual right
It does say THE PEOPLE in their aswell. And as far as I know, a militia can also be a para-military organization (not bieng affiliated with the military) Owell, we will soon have a more clear cut decision comming from SCOTUS. Sorry lady, your in the minority.
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Indy Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:20 AM
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2. The latest spin from from the gun control side

Is that there IS an individual right to keep and bear arms, but ONLY for when you are part of a State sponsored militia.
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gorfle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:39 AM
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3. Whither the state-sponsored militias?
The problem with the "militia only" argument is that there have been no militias as the founding fathers envisioned them since at least 1903. The militias were intended to provide a decentralized military force that removed the ability of the central government to have the ability to enforce a tyranny by force of arms. In 1903, with the passage of the Dick Act, the state militias were federalized, creating the organized militia - the National Guard, and the unorganized militia - all able-bodied men between the ages of 17 and 45.

With the passage of the Dick Act, the militias, now the National Guard, no longer served as a counterbalance to federal military power, but rather served to augment it.

In my view, with the militias of the founding fathers' era gone, the only way to preserve their intent is for the right to fall back onto the people themselves. The unorganized militia accounts for this, but is sexist and ageist as currently worded.
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HALO141 Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:11 AM
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4. They're not gone.
The "unorganized militia" still exists. Just because nobody's called it out doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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L1A1Rocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:32 AM
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5. CORRECT!!!
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gorfle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:29 PM
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7. Note...
Note I said:

In my view, with the militias of the founding fathers' era gone, the only way to preserve their intent is for the right to fall back onto the people themselves. The unorganized militia accounts for this, but is sexist and ageist as currently worded.

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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:26 PM
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9. In some states, men and women are in the unorganized militia. n/t
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:55 AM
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6. Suggest you visit SGAUS for a start, link below, and also browse state laws dealing with militias.
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Turbo Teg Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:05 PM
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8. I don't think
You need the state sponsored part, but if so, you would need a way to get sponsored, and not have any federal involvement. The NG doesn't count, as it is still under federal control.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:05 PM
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10. pre-planned news plant
"Tara henigan" would would appear to be the wife of the bradys Dennis Henigan. Whats got me curious, is that hers is a name I can not recall seeing or hearing over the years in the gun debate.

Is it meaningful that her name was added to the mix here and now or just happenstance?



Call friend(s) in media,
let them know where you'll be,
make corrections/additions to script,
grant interview on the scene,
hit the www with spin.


Pretty much covers it. ;)
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