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shockedcanadian Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 10:36 AM
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Open letter to Crown Attorney for CSIS and the RCMP...
Edited on Wed Aug-17-11 10:38 AM by shockedcanadian
Here is a letter I sent to the attorney after he threatened to create a motion to strike. Only in Canada will you have to jump through hoops to have your accusers explain what they are accusing you of and what evidence they have against you:

Counsel for Defendants (CSIS & RCMP)
Department of Justice

Thank you for the letter dated today August 16th, 2011.
As I have stated, I am interested in providing details, but as suggested in the Action I require
access to my dossiers from your clients to do so effectively. The particulars that you request
are extremely detailed and more than ever would require access to these files to answer

Also, I am awaiting your response to the Action, which you are obligated to provide within 30
days. If you are pleading guilty to some of the accusations than it will save us both time and
effort by focusing on those accusations I need to prove and working out a potential out of court
settlement to any your clients accept responsibility for. At this point you have not indicated
your clients position by pleading.

As a function of how CSIS and the RCMP often operate (covertly, undercover, in secrecy), I
cannot provide a badge number or employee number so to speak. An agent confronting me
and committing espionage against me at IBM Canada for instance, would not identify
themselves as a CSIS agent.

Furthermore, they would not specifically tell me that they were working there to discredit and
sabotage my activities. Therefore, it is ultimately a black and white issue, either there are files,
documents and dossier(s) on me or there are not.

If there are no files, than we obviously have a different issue altogether and I will be willing to
provide details as best I can, as I experienced them in the workplace at at the border, but
without the benefit of a file it would not be nearly as accurate and complete. If files do exist,
than you are denying me my ability to present my case to a judge by withholding these

I would have assumed a simple blanket statement response of innocence across all of the
accusations. Unless of course there is reason to consider these claims in front of a judge who is
qualified to rule on these issues in an impartial manner. In which case, a Motion to Strike; in
particularly before you have plead to the accusations, is an extremely undemocratic suggestion.

I know that the vast majority of the members of these organizations want to make the right
decisions; however there is a history of CSIS and the RCMP denying, in many cases outright lying
to protect the truth and their own stakeholders. Grant Bristow (former CSIS agent who
infiltrated and funded the Heritage Front) and the actions of undercover RCMP officers during a
demonstration at Montebello, Quebec in August 2007 quickly come to mind. As time passed
the truth came out, and their initial denials were found to be misguided at best, I am seeking
this truth immediately as a citizen as I want to lead a normal life in this country without

I will be putting forward a motion of Order of Disclosure so that we can get through this
impasse. Canada is a system based on democracy, not only is this democracy protected by the
Charter of Rights and Freedoms but Canada is also party to the signing of many International
agreements on Human Rights which go beyond even the scope of our domestic obligations. I
do not think that my request is unreasonable in a democratic system based on justice, fairness
and transparency. A willingness on your clients part to provide the files I request would provide
evidence of their belief in this system.

I want to assist you as best I can, however I still require my dossier(s). I close this letter with the
same question I have posed numerous times.

Are your clients denying that there are files on me?
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