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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 05:53 PM
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Noriega's game plan in Bolivia
Reposting my comments to an earlier eye-opening thread, this one:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1532063&mesg_id=1533813
Because this needs all the attention.

"Seems that Noriega's plan is that Vaca Díez, next in line after resigning Mesa, takes power, declares Marshal law and starts massacring the demonstrators. This would no doubt lead to civil war (Aymara warriors and other social movements would sure as hell not back down and the army and police would split down). Vaca Diez would then call military help from outside "to protect the constitutional order and democracy", guess who?

Gladly, it does not seem that this plan is going forward, Generals of Bolivian army are not game and would rather choose Chavez as their role-model. Hence Noriega's frustrated outburst at Chavez, accusing him of what is going on in Bolivia.

This speculation is based on especially this piece from Al Giordano of Narconews:
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/story/2005/6/8/91629/48549"

"The real US plan seems to be to take control of only the Bolivian oil and gas fields located in the eastern province of La Paz, not the whole country which would be too costly. This must be the logic behind demand for "autonomy" from the rich La Paz oligarchy (with orchestration and support from CIA, NED etc. etc.), seceding from the poorer part of the country and becoming US vassal.

In other news, Bolivian social movements occupy peasefully the hydrocarbon fields and installations.
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/story/2005/6/8/145449/0216

This is it guys, global oil war round two. Lets hope Bolivian Generals stay united and loyal to the people, and keep telling Noriega to go fuck himself."
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 06:10 PM
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1. I hope you are right.
That the generals are tired of being US stooges.
That would be excellent.
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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 06:22 PM
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2. Well
Edited on Wed Jun-08-05 06:23 PM by aneerkoinos
I hope the rumours NARCONEWS is hearing are true. I would hate being right about this plan of Noriega, but somehow I don't think I'm very far off. :(

If you got usefull mailing lists, spread this, tell your (or any and all) congresmann or senator, tell media.

We can make a difference!
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 07:17 PM
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3. Noriega can't do shit without the Bolivian military.
Or at least that is my opinion. Any asshole can have
a plan, a plan that works is a different thing entirely.
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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 07:38 PM
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4. True
Noriega needs at least a good part of Bolivian military to start a civil war.

Will he get it? It seems all depends on it.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 08:00 PM
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5. That's the question.
It is worth noting that this "plan" failed in Venezuela.
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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 08:15 PM
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6. Insh'Allah
And we can push the odds by spreading the word.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 08:16 PM
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7. Publicity does a lot of good. nt
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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 08:26 PM
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8. Correction
I meant Santa Cruz, but forgot to breath, lost my cool and said La Paz.

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