Critics lambaste election charade in Hong Kong

[dArKeR]

It looks like a real political campaign. The front-runner quits his job to stump full time. He sets up a campaign office. Newspapers fill their front pages with headlines about major figures endorsing him.
But scratch away the thin veneer of electioneering, and the event looks like a political charade disguising the fact that there's no real contest. Everyone expects Donald Tsang (???) to win the July 10 three-way race because he's widely believed to have the blessing of Beijing.

"The bottom line is, all you can do is laugh about it," said opposition lawmaker Emily Lau (???). "The whole thing is a show."

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2005/06/01/2003257481

[On the Road]

1. It's Only Half Democratic?

The election is a product of a partially democratic political system that critics say gives Beijing too much control over the territory. While Hong Kong enjoys Western-style civil liberties, the British never allowed full democracy. China has continued that tradition under a "one country, two systems" formula that's supposed to give Hong Kong a large degree of autonomy.

Hong Kong's leader is picked by an 800-member committee that tends to side with China. Only half of its 60 legislators are elected -- special interest groups choose the rest. Still, the government and Beijing are trying to make the race look real by meticulously following election rules.

I always thought the population of Hong Kong tended to be anti-Beijing and opposition candidates would tend to do well. This makes it clear why that's pretty much irrelevant.

Could you elaborate a little on the election system, dArKeR? I've never heard of anything like it, and the article was tantalizingly brief. And it didn't clarify the difference between the 800-person committee and the 60 legislators.

[dArKeR]

2. I don't know about HK. What I do know is the only reason the

Communist let HK citizens do anything Democratic is because the HK people are making money for the Communists. If HK wasn't a Cash Cow, HK citizens would be forced into slave labor camps in the dark remote regions of Commi China. Chinese Communists are The Bush Crime Family, Stalanist, and Nazis times 1000. Communists are using HK citizens to run their Commi corporations, along with Taiwanese citizens.

I've never met a HK citizen who liked the Communist Bastards, that is except Maple's hero, JACKIE WHORE CHAN.

America and the world's election system are a disgrace compared to Taiwans. I've lived in TW for two Presidential elections. I actually helped boot out the KMT Butchers!

Below is an old post I wrote about Taiwan Election system. Read it and cry. EU and world elections monitors ALL say they have NEVER seen such a fair election system in the world.

Below that is an old Jackie Whore post.

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Any and Every person in Taiwan knows this was fair balloting and counting. Where are the foreign Media Whores, like Mike Chinoy, to stand up and publish the Taiwan balloting system? Last elections, I read ALL international observers in Taiwan say they've never seen anything like it. Fair, fast and efficient. Australia, UK, France, US observers.

This is my personal observation:

The most fantastic events I've ever seen.

Taiwan is very cluttered, a little dirty, very disorganised because of the KMT stealing and lack of leadership for 50 years. But the election system set up after Abian won Taipei City Mayor is excellent and well organized and impossible to cheat. (The way the KMT still cheats now is they bribe the voters before they get into the polling station. Once in the door it's 100% Democracy as the American Founding Fathers envisioned.

Poll stations are all over the place, all walking distance over the entire country.

1. Polling station opens
2. Representative from all Parties present. All public is invited to come in and watch the entire process, even pre-setup.
3. All ballot boxes are shown to the public and local reps. as empty then they are locked and stationary, they cannot move! You can sit inside the entire day. My neighbors and I did a tag-team taking turns watching the boxes for Chen's victory in 2000. (It was really a big win. A million times more than the USA Hockey beating the Russians!.)
4. VOTE
5. 5PM Voting stops but Poll is NOT closed. This is when the station gets packed by citizens. Officials open the boxes and pull out the ballots 1 at a time. Call out the selection and a person makes a check mark on the board, tally. Then the ballot is turned and shown to the public inside the station to verify.
6. If a ballot was not marked he calls it out and shows the public. (citizens use a thick ink pen to check boxes.)
7. The totals from this Station are then called into election headquarters.
8. The entire process is counted and totaled by 6:30 - 7:pm and winner declared.
9. The next day the newspapers publish the totals from all stations across the country. Citizens verify if the total they saw in their station matches with the HQ totals.
10. 80%-90% plus vote.

Think about your nation?

I'm so proud to have met, lived, worked and played with the Taiwanese people in Taiwan.

Go to HELL you dirty KMT bastards!


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Jackie 'Whore' Chan is a Communist Puppet!
Senior DPP figure gets in a tangle over Jackie Chan
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2004/04/23/2003137723




Jackie Chan Rips Taiwan's Election

TAIPEI, Taiwan - Hong Kong film star Jackie Chan (news) said Sunday that Taiwan's recent presidential election was "the biggest joke in the world."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040329/ap_en_mo/people_j ...

I'm putting the WORLD on notice. This is how Fascism, Communism, Brutal Regimes, Nazis, Hitlers rise. The use of immoral instruments masquerading as moral/just people. Chan, speaking from Communist China and bashing Democracy! This is as laughable as Trent Lott saying aWol got more votes. Jackie 'Whore' didn't mention that there are no elections in China but its obviously the most corrupt and murderous regime on the planet. Where government officials falsely convict citizens, execute them and sell their body parts for cash.

Honk Kong has no ability to vote for its leader either. And the Communists are trying daily to take away ALL rights of Hong Kong citizens.

I was in Hong Kong when the first Chinese astronaut went on tour in Hong Kong. Who was there as the Communist mouth piece? Jackie 'Whore'. Not only did I read in the Hong Kong newspapers, I spoke to many Hong Kong citizens questioning why Jackie 'Whore' was playing the puppet for the Communists. So many people felt this way, Jackie 'Whore' went on a TV 'attack dog tour' (like Condi Lice is doing now), to try to salvage his reputation. He just kept saying, 'We are all Chinese that's why I do it.'

Everyone I spoke to, and also saw personally on HK TV interviews of people standing in line, (The space capsule was put on display at the Space Center next to Kowloon Star Ferry), the Hong Kong people said, 'I don't care about seeing Yang Liwei, astronaunt, I only want to see the space capsule.'

Most all HK people were really pissed at Jackie 'Whore' for his actions. Many said he's a traitor.


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You've got to look at this honestly people! Everyone stop and look what's go-in down! There isn't an official/knowledgable person in the world who'd say Taiwan's election procedures aren't the fairest in the world.

The people protesting, in Taiwan, are all the Fascists Mainland Chinese who invaded Taiwan in 1949. They are about the most corrupt group on Earth, have been stealing money from Taiwan since 1949 but now no longer have an easy method to steal.

The KMT Party is the richest political party in the world. How did they get this money?

Assassination attempt. Is Jackie 'Whore' willing to take a bullet in the stomach while riding in a Jeep? The investigation is on going but Jackie 'Whore' knows what happened?

You can read just about anywhere the near certainty of ALL Hong Kong media stars being part of the Hong Kong Mafia. Which I would assume has now been taken over by the Communist Chinese Government.

ps. I'll never watch a Jackie 'Whore' movie again!

[On the Road]

4. I Remember Your Posts During the Taiwanese Elections

Seems like a good model for the US.

[dArKeR]

5. Why not for the world? Even Blair' and Howard's election monitors in

TW during the TW Pres. elections said they've never seen anything like this ever! I thought White Anglos were the only honest, moral people on Earth since the beginning of time. Why does it take a group of "barbarians" to set up the best system in the world?

American, India, the PI and every country in the world are a disgrace. Hauling ballot boxes away in the darkness of night to be counted by a few people of political parties behind closed doors.

Every darn I company I call today has a messages saying my conversation is being recorded. Nearly every major street I walk or drive down has a video camera recording. Why don't these election counting cells have live video cams recording the counting? (If you're going down the Whore American election system.)

[dArKeR]

6. Phil Donahue said in 2000 about the exclusion of all candidates except

Gore and aWol from debates, "This is not what the founding fathers intended."

It's proof that citizens have very little control of a Democracy. It's an illusion of voting between two Power Elite. I never even met a Repuke who disagrees with Donahue to let everyone up there and debate but yet it will never happen because "they" control everything!

[dArKeR]

3. Don't miss this story to learn a litte about the KMT!

Ma's father to kill himself if son runs against Lien
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=116&topic_id=10199

The KMT are NOT just in TW, they've got massive networks all over the world and mainly in China, HK, and the good old USA.

When Chen was winning the last election the reporting on the Taiwanese networks being pumped into the USA were 90% worse than how Rove controls the news in the American Whore Corps. In fact all TW media is/was owned directly and legally by the KMT.