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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 03:54 PM
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Maine would join regional greenhouse-gas initiative

AUBURN (May 2, 2007): A proposal to set limits on the amount of carbon dioxide coming from the state's six largest power plants in an effort to reduce global warming is heading to the full Legislature for a vote.

While ratepayers will bear the cost of the proposal through an estimated 1.5 percent hike in their overall electric bill, the cost of doing nothing is unacceptable, according to Gov. John Baldacci.

If we allow climate change to continue, the world faces terrible consequences that will put at risk Maines economy and our quality of life, the governor said.


The goal is to stabilize carbon dioxide emissions from 2009 to 2015 and then reduce them by 10 percent by 2019.

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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 04:05 PM
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1. Meanwhile, New Jersey to build 650 MW coal fired power plant
Edited on Thu May-03-07 04:33 PM by jpak

Coal-burning power plants are a major reason why every New Jersey resident breathes dirty air. Soon, there will be more of them.

More than 150 new coal-fired power plants are planned across the country in what is being called a "coal rush."

In Gloucester County, West Deptford is being eyed as a site for a 650-megawatt coal plant. Six new plants are under construction in neighboring Ohio and Pennsylvania -- two states that New Jersey blames for much of the pollution that wafts across the Garden State.


Environmental groups were already dismayed that two coal-fired power plants in Salem County were sold rather than shut down in recent years. One of those plants had been slated to close before a buyer emerged. Now, Tittel fears the new owner will propose an expansion as part of this new nationwide push to expand the use of coal.

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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 08:40 PM
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2. Really? I thought New Jersey was a solar wonderland?
Edited on Thu May-03-07 08:41 PM by NNadir
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you on this site all the time telling everyone about the wonderful New Jersey brazillion solar roofs bill?

I've been hearing all about the brazillion solar roofs bills in New Jersey. We pay all kinds of subsidies to solar energy in this state and still, still, still, still, still, solar energy does not even provide 1% of our energy. Moreover it never will. The solar industry on the entire planet can barely manage to supply enough solar cells to match a single gas fired plant in New Jersey.

Fools on this site pipe in every few days about a kilo"watt" of solar energy in New Jersey and meanwhile, meanwhile, meanwhile solar energy has proved useless in this State, just as I have always predicted it would be. I've seen threads about every single solar installation in this state. The fact that every single installation of enough solar energy to light two televisions any where on earth merits its own thread says more about the failure of solar energy here than I could ever say.

The New Jersey renewable energy bill is a failure. A failure. A failure.

The pricks who have anything to say about our nuclear plants are attempting to kill the men, women and children of this State by selling consumer brat trust fund snake oil.

Since I live in New Jersey, I know that it is a bunch of mindless bullshit. All brazillion solar roofs bill are failures and always will be. They don't work. They will never work. They are all failures, which is why everyone of them sets targets decades in the future.

The Maine "would join Greenhouse initiative" stuff is just talk. Maine now depends on fossil fuels for 66% of its energy and the percentage is growing every year. They are so dependent on natural gas up there that they are now talking coal.

I know that solar energy is a bunch of shit and that nuclear energy is the only way to address climate change. I am calling for new nuclear plants in New Jersey and it appears that I might get my way:

New Jersey, unlike Maine, gets more than half of its electricity from greenhouse gas free energy. Maine had a nuclear plant and dismantled it and the results are clear and readily available, for anyone to see. Maine is greenhouse gas pollution central and it will get worse not better, even if they bring Governor Hydrogen Hummer in from California to talk about brazillions of solar roofs.

Maine's emissions of carbon dioxide rose by 16% since 1997, the year dunderheads applauded the closure of Maine Yankee. New Jersey's emissions have <em>declined</em>, albeit it slightly since 1997. The reason? We kept our nuclear plants:

I am fighting for nuclear energy in my state, because I love about my children, my neighbors and my friends. We deserve clean and safe energy here and we have it because of our nuclear plants. I don't need a bunch of out of state twits to come here and malign our nuclear plants which are critical to our State's survival and our health.

I am calling for us to be the first state, after Vermont, to effectively eliminate greenhouse gases from our electrical generation profile. I am calling on the State of New Jersey to authorize the building of at least three (or more) nuclear power plants.

We have lots of coast, here waterfront property here that is ideal for new nuclear capacity. I believe it is our duty to use exploit this fact to help the entire Northeast to fight climate change and to fight antinuclear ignorance.

It is unconscionable that anyone would do anything to oppose nuclear power plants in this state. I have no patience with little boys who pretend that their toy solar kits can address the energy issues of this state. If any fucking coal plants are built here, it will because of shit for brains opposition to nuclear energy, which has been a spectacular success here.

I intend to fight every coal plant wherever it is built. I am fighting coal in the German "renewable paradise;" I am fighting coal in Maine, I am fighting it in Nevada; I am fighting it in New Jersey; I am fighting it in Ohio; I am fighting it in China and I am fighting it in Japan and I am fighting it in India.

Unlike a Greenpeace brat, puttering around with solar toys, I understand fully that coal is murder.

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