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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:27 AM
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It's all the "Environmental Wacko's" fault!
Or so say the callers to the Washington Journal. btw, In our favorite Country, france, 80% of the Electricity is generated by Nuclear Power. I just thought you would like to know. I felt quite enlightened.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:48 AM
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1. i heard that.
informed has never been a by-word of the conservative right.

however they whip ''stupid'' out and parade it around as often as they can.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 07:07 AM
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2. I need my big truck to get my nails out to the trees. So it is me.
I wonder where he read that stuff?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 07:40 AM
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:14 AM
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5. you are being sarcastic aren't you?
We have an icon for that. Some people might not see the humor in your post.

:sarcasm:

Just a suggestion.




Cher

p.s. the funniest part of your post is when you capitalized "Me" and "You." Like we're the most important part of the planet: more important than the birds, the trees, the animals, all of whom have just as much of a right to live as we do but who are disappearing because of our selfish behavior.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:04 AM
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:44 AM
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6. LOL, oil all over the country
ANWR is approximately 6 months worth of US oil supply, spaced out over a decade or two of extraction. The impact it would have on our oil crisis is minimal at best, not to mention that oil from Alaska is usually sold to Asia rather than refined and used domestically.

As for drilling off of Florida's cost, good luck with that in the era of global-warming-boosted hurricanes. 25% of Gulf offshore oil production is still down after last year's hurricane season, and it's almost the new season now. At this rate, modern oil platforms will be unable to maintain production while getting hammered annually.
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Oerdin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 12:09 AM
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15. Nope.
"usually sold to Asia rather than refined and used domestically"

My understanding is that Carter made it illegal to export domestically produced oil and instead it had to be used domestically.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:39 AM
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7. Because, in the scale of things it is irrelevent
and once ANWR is wrecked there's no fixing it.

How about the they put some rigs off the coast of beautiful Brunswick, destroy your tourist industry and fuck up your fishing, oyster beds and crabbing? Sounds good, huh?

Conservation and grabbing the oil industry by the balls are obvious short term fixes. We're going to have to change the way we live in the long run.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:57 AM
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:21 AM
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10. wrong
That "few hundred acres" refers only to the land upon which rigs would sit. Much, much more would be disrupted and polluted by infastructure.

You have great faith in the oil industry. One fuck up and all is toast.

One day you may wish you had that horse.

I can't believe you would be so cavalier with the magnificance of your Sea Isles. You can eat fish(if they'd stop poisoning them), you can't eat oil.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:52 AM
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 11:16 AM
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12. And a happy Earth Day to you.
How long do you expect that oil to last? How much more hydocarbons can the atmosphere take?

And why should sea turtles give a fuck about your opinion? The problem with shrimpers is that there's too damn many of them grasping for the same shrimp, a fine example of the tragedy of the commons. A good part of the fleet should be retired.

No point in continuing this. Foolish anthopocentricism such as yours will get us what we deserve, by and by. Enjoy your drive.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 12:22 PM
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megatherium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 12:43 PM
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14. We could trade ANWAR for 40 mpg CAFE standards for all passenger
vehicles (light trucks as well as cars).
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brokensymmetry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 07:58 AM
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4. Well, I hope you're proud of yourself!
Just think, a few "environmental wacko's" are able to overwhelm the combined efforts
of the entire oil industry, the coal and nuclear industries, OPEC, and automobile
industry, and assorted governments around the world. What an amazing accomplishment!
(Yes, I'm being sarcastic.)

The sad reality is that the global extraction rate is topping out. Dare I mention
Peak Oil? And that will change the cheap-energy lifestyle we know and mostly love.
It will change the world.

Those who think they can extend that cheap-energy lifestyle by drilling ANWR fail to
recognize the magnitude of the problem; they seek to fight a forest fire with a
thermos of Kool-Aid.
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