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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:20 AM
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Climate scientists issue dire warning
The Earth's temperature could rise under the impact of global warming to levels far higher than previously predicted, according to the United Nations' team of climate experts. A draft of the next influential Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report will tell politicians that scientists are now unable to place a reliable upper limit on how quickly the atmosphere will warm as carbon dioxide levels increase. The report draws together research over the past five years and will be presented to national governments in April and made public next year. It raises the possibility of the Earth's temperature rising well above the ceiling quoted in earlier accounts.

Such an outcome would have severe consequences, such as the collapse of the Greenland ice sheet and disruption of the Gulf Stream ocean current. The shift in position comes as Tony Blair is expected to pledge today to work towards a date for stabilising international greenhouse gas emissions when he meets Stop Climate Chaos, the climate change equivalent of Make Poverty History. The group is campaigning for a target date of 2015 for stabilisation, saying a later date would endanger the planet.

The new IPCC report will underpin international talks on how to cut greenhouse gas emissions when the first phase of the Kyoto protocol expires in 2012. Set up in 1988 by the UN, the IPCC brings together hundreds of experts to summarise the state of climate science for policymakers. It has produced three reports since 1990, each of which has been instrumental in establishing national and international strategies to address global warming. Government officials have until June to comment on the new draft, when scientists will gather in Bergen, Norway, to produce a final version.

The IPCC's removal of the upper temperature estimation is posited on new predictions about how the atmosphere would react to the carbon blanket wrapped around it. The three previous reports assumed that a doubling of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere would increase average global temperature by between 1.5 and 4.5C. Since then, computer models have foreseen increases as high as 11C, and some scientists wanted the naturally conservative IPCC to raise the upper end of the range. Others said such a move would be increase would be misleading and alarmist. According to sources who have seen it, the draft now assumes a doubling of carbon dioxide would cause a likely temperature rise of between 2 and 4.5C, but says higher increases are possible.

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:22 AM
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1. this stuff scares the crap out of me. i would never have
kids if i was young now.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:34 AM
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2. I haven't had any, and I'm thinking I maybe just won't.
This warning reminds me of the scary warnings issued before Katrina that totally got ignored.
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castiron Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:49 AM
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3. same here
even tho the world needs liberal kids now more than ever.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:17 AM
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5. Count me in this group.
my best friend growing up was the daughter of a climate research scientist. I made the decision not to have kids 20 years ago based on his predictions then.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:52 AM
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4. this may be 'just normal weather fluctuations', but...
...it was 50 degrees at 2AM yesterday morning. In February. In Billings, Montana.
Forecast tomorrow is for 60. That's six-oh, not 'six', or 'minus six' which is the usual thing for this time of year.
Maybe I'm jumping the gun and doing my worrying early and often, but this does not bode well for July and August, when it gets really hot.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 07:38 AM
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7. You're right badgerpup,
this heat (or unusually non-cold winter) does not bode well for what the Summer holds.

We're experiencing very unusual weather here in NE Indiana - hardly any snow, cold, etc. - and these stupid, inane weather people get up before the cameras with their fake smiles plastered upon their faces and root for the warm weather to continue. I want to reach through the TV and shake the shit out of them! This is one reason I simply don't watch network news. I'd rather go to the Weather Channel on the 'net and just read, not listen to their insane babbling.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 08:54 AM
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8. Welcome to DU badgerpup.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:45 AM
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6. and don't forget about the great Arctic methane fart . . .
if warming continues and all that methane is released, it will start a chain reaction that could end most life on the planet in short order . . .
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 02:40 PM
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9. I hear Siberia is doing that right now
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