Austrian ZAMG fallout animated maps for Cesium, Xenon, Iodine

[flamingdem]

http://www.zamg.ac.at/aktuell/index.php?seite=1&artikel=ZAMG_2011-03-21GMT10:22

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Number 3 map down is Xenon, click to enlarge, Cesium 137 further down (world map)

[wtmusic]

1. A Misleading Map of Radiation Spread

Confuses millisieverts with micro-. The CTBTO should know better

"The New York Times website has published an alarming interactive map that shows a massive plume of radiation moving across the Pacific and reaching Southern California tomorrow. The map was created by the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty Organization, an arm of the United Nations. The text around the map explains—in bold type—that the map does not indicate levels of radiation, and that the plume would be so dilute by the time it reaches the U.S. that it would have "extremely minor health consequences." But unfortunately, the picture is going to be far more powerful than the words. For a dispassionate look at the health impacts of radiation, see our story today.

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Yesterday in Japan, at the gate of the severely damaged Fukushima plant, radiation levels were at a few millisieverts per hour. The levels rapidly drop to a few microsieverts moving away from the plant. Judging by the scale of the map, the yellow sections—the most intense—would likely correspond to microsieverts. Radiation sickness doesn't set in until a person has received a dose of about 1 sievert—a million times more than a microsievert. But, of course, this is all a guess, because the map doesn't provide the data. All it gives is relative concentrations, and those are misleading."

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/energy/26538/?p1=Blogs

[flamingdem]

2. I saw that last week.

By the way there are rates 1600 times higher than normal near the plant. See previous posts.

[wtmusic]

3. That's what IAEA reports

Japan reports lower numbers by a factor of fifteen. And IAEA has no other samples to corroborate it. See previous posts.

If you want to always pick the sensationalist story, go for it.

[flamingdem]

5. I'd pick IAEA in a new york minute over the Japanese government!

Talk about a lot at stake, like saving face in light of having families living right near the plant STILL! Plus, how will they evacuate Tokyo anyway?

Not to mention the incompetence, lies, and history of illegality and greed shown by Tepco. \

[wtmusic]

8. I would too, normally.

They're providing one sample though, which IMO was an anomaly. Or it came from a leak at Daini, which is only 4km away. Not that that's any more encouraging.

[wtmusic]

9. I take it all back.

Well some of it. This from the IAEA website:

"As I reported yesterday, the IAEA radiation monitoring team took measurements at distances from 56 to 200 km from the Fukushima nuclear power plant. At two locations in Fukushima Prefecture gamma dose rate and beta-gamma contamination measurements have been repeated. These measurements showed high beta-gamma contamination levels. Measurements by the IAEA and the Japanese authorities were taken at the same time and locations. The Japanese and independent IAEA measurements gave comparable results.

Measurement of gamma dose rate and beta-gamma contamination were taken on 20 March at more locations. The dose-rate results ranged from 2-160 microsieverts per hour, which compares to a typical natural background level of around 0.1 microsieverts per hour. High levels of beta-gamma contamination have been measured between 16-58 km from the plant. Available results show contamination ranging from 0.2-0.9 MBq per square metre.

Further measurements are needed to assess possible contamination beyond the area currently monitored - both closer to the facility and further way. We have no contamination measurements showing that that contamination levels are high at greater distances than 58 km from the plant, but this cannot be excluded."

http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/tsunamiupdate01.html

I have no idea why they say "The Japanese and independent IAEA measurements gave comparable results". 12 and 160 are not all that comparable. :shrug:

[TheMadMonk]

10. For short periods of time, during steam venting operations.

And even during these operations, levels at the facility's perimeter remain quite safe, because the vast majority of the radioactivity in the steam is gone in minutes.

The rest of the time, levels in the reactor buildings themselves are quite moderate.

[wtmusic]

4. By the way, it might be a good idea to point out these are simulations

and may have no bearing whatsoever on actual fallout patterns.

But that wouldn't be very titillating, would it.

[flamingdem]

6. Keep you snooty opinions to yourself

You don't have to read this, I'm researching and sharing thank you.

[wtmusic]

7. If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.

Your posting debunked data, and you're getting heat for it. Ouch.

[ReturnoftheDjedi]

11. why are you so dead set against information about this crisis getting out?

ask yourself that.

[Nihil]

12. I think it's "speculation" rather than "information" that he's against ...

... and "speculation now know to be false/inaccurate/misleading " at that (in this case).

:shrug:

[flamingdem]

13. You didn't notice that the NYT map was different!

The only debunking is by pro-Nuke people who want to patronize and confuse people. An average intelligence knows how to interpret a simulation and the concept of relative risk.