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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:57 PM
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Labor likes prospect of new jobs from nuclear
It seems that the Unions didn't get the "Nuclear Is Dead" memo, either.

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/94983-labor-likes-nuke-jobs-prospects">Labor likes prospect of new jobs from nuclear

While the Obama administration’s embrace of nuclear energy has angered some environmental groups, it has won solid support from the labor movement.

Each new nuclear reactor built could create hundreds of jobs for electrical engineers, pipe-fitters and construction workers. Based on industry statistics, most of those jobs will be union jobs, offering labor a way to boost membership rolls after years of decline.

The Nuclear Energy Institute, the sector’s main trade group, estimates that 80 percent of workers in the nuclear sector are members of a labor union.

Some environmental groups have softened their traditional anti-nuclear stance, but the subject of nuclear power and what to do with the radioactive waste remains a sore point for environmental advocates and labor officials.

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Unions have been “have been hoping for years and years that there would be a resurgence in the nuclear industry,” Mulcahy said.

The connection wasn’t lost on President Barack Obama. He announced his expanded loan guarantee program at the headquarters of the Local 26 of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW) in Lanham, Md. IBEW has applauded the president for pushing for more nuclear energy.

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http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/94983-labor-likes-nuke-jobs-prospects">Read the entire article at The Hill


No wonder the Conservatives have turned against nuclear energy.

--d!

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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 03:02 PM
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1. Um yes. That fail-safe automation has worked great for oil! n/t
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 03:21 PM
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2. No wonder the Conservatives have turned against nuclear energy.
Which Conservative(s)? In what context?
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 07:06 PM
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7. None of them - he's making stuff up.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 03:56 PM
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15. It is also a false premise that the one labor group represents all "labor"
Renewables have no fuel costs, but they do have pretty high labor costs. On a per megawatt basis they employ substantially more people in good paying jobs than fossil fuels or nuclear.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 05:41 PM
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3. The difference between nuclear jobs and other energy jobs is that nuclear
is high paying, intellectually satisfying and most of all, productive.

The wealth of a society as a whole is dependent on productivity, return on investment for the culture as a whole.

We may - and I might add should - question how this wealth is distributed, but without productivity we will not have the resources to do the great things, educate, explore, eliminate poverty and other suffering, create justice.

There is no justice in impoverished nations.

A nuclear reactor constructed now will provide huge amounts of energy for 6 or more decades. Every reactor we build is a huge gift to the future.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:40 PM
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5. Man, that sounds to good to be true!!
I'm buying in.

When can I get me my own little nuker plant?

I can get solar or wind, but that ain't powerful enough.
I gotta get me some nukes.

""Every reactor we build is a huge gift to the future.""

Yeah, a gift of wastes and who knows what else.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 07:26 PM
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8. Sorry kiddie. To have a nuclear engineering job you need an education.
You need to understand materials science, thermal hydraulics, nuclear physics, chemistry, and mathematics.

This is not a business for little scammer illiterates.

By the way, kiddie, you say "I can get solar or wind."

How come I never hear anything but conditional statements from dumb liberatarian anti-nukes?

You can?

Where the fuck are they? Tell us all about your pile of (toxic) batteries, your solar energy system and your big fucking wind turbine.

Nuclear energy is a civilized collective enterprise. Do let me know when their is one dumb anti-nuke who doesn't drive cars because they haven't built all the freeways, or a dumb anti-nuke who only posts dumb ass anti-science shit on the internet from their home built computers.

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 08:32 PM
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10. I am reminded of.....
...Einstein's famous words along the lines of: if he'd known then what he knew now, he'd have been a plumber.

You may enjoy your hamburger today, with no worry that your children will pay dearly for it later, but that ain't me, dude.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 05:39 AM
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11. personal attack/flamebait
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:35 PM
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4. Yet another core element of the Democratic Party
...supports nuclear.

With any luck, pretty soon the anti-nukes will be a small minority in the party and have to take their scare-mongering elsewhere.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 07:03 PM
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6. You have a link?
"core element of the Democratic Party
...supports nuclear."

They support jobs, yeah. But aren't you really stretching to say they support nukes? Surely, you have that link that supports you?
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 08:06 PM
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9. The inevitable cost overruns will be blamed on unions and "too much gubmint regulation"
Nuclear supporters in the Democratic Party are like Reagan Democrats.
In a few years, they will turn against the unions, just like they did under Reagan.
There are many anti-union Democrats right here on DU:
"97. Most DUers don't support unions."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8116937&mesg_id=8119969

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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 02:28 PM
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13. Interesting Post
Since when did supporting a union mean you have to buy an overpriced piece of crap?
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 05:41 AM
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12. the nuclear PR machine does all the scaring that is needed to ruin their industry
It's the Joe Dirt of Wall Street: "nobody wants you, Joe Dirt!".
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 03:09 PM
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14. The owners of the anti-nuke industry does all the dumping that is needed to destroy the atmosphere.
Basically, anti-nukes, 100% of them are scientifically illiterate and don't know how to read what the nuclear industry writes about itself.

Have a nice "Amory Lovins is a great guy even if BP writes him big checks" dumb soundbite evening.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 07:50 PM
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16. There's that Dick Cheney message system again...eom
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