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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:08 AM
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Electricty from nuclear costs far, far more than renewables. Climate Progress...
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 02:09 AM by kristopher
Exclusive analysis, Part 1: The staggering cost of new nuclear power
January 5, 2009

A new study puts the generation costs for power from new nuclear plants at from 25 to 30 cents per kilowatt-hour — triple current U.S. electricity rates!

This staggering price is far higher than the cost of a variety of carbon-free renewable power sources available today — and ten times the cost of energy efficiency (see “Is 450 ppm possible? Part 5: Old coal’s out, can’t wait for new nukes, so what do we do NOW?“).

nuke-costs.jpgThe new study, Business Risks and Costs of New Nuclear Power, is one of the most detailed cost analyses publically available on the current generation of nuclear power plants being considered in this country. It is by a leading expert in power plant costs, Craig A. Severance. A practicing CPA, Severance is co-author of The Economics of Nuclear and Coal Power (Praeger 1976), and former Assistant to the Chairman and to Commerce Counsel, Iowa State Commerce Commission.

This important new analysis is being published by Climate Progress because it fills a critical gap in the current debate over nuclear power — transparency. Severance explains:

"All assumptions, and methods of calculation are clearly stated. The piece is a deliberate effort to demystify the entire process, so that anyone reading it (including non-technical readers) can develop a clear understanding of how total generation costs per kWh come together."...

http://climateprogress.org/2009/01/05/study-cost-risks-new-nuclear-power-plants/

Includes links to primary documents.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 03:20 AM
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1. Indeed. It costs money to fight fossil fuels.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 03:20 AM
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2. Assuming that you cut and slant your assumptions to produce that result, sure.
In contrast, most countries produce it for 4 cents per KWh.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-14-10 12:32 AM
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4. ROFLMAO You mean like Canada?
Nuclear Bombshell: $26 Billion cost — $10,800 per kilowatt! — killed Ontario nuclear bid

http://climateprogress.org/2009/07/15/nuclear-power-plant-cost-bombshell-ontario/

Or Turkey:

Turkey’s only bidder for first nuclear plant offers a price of 21 cents per kilowatt-hour
http://climateprogress.org/2009/01/30/turkeys-only-bidder-for-first-nuclear-plant-offers-a-price-of-21-cents-per-kilowatt-hour/
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 03:23 AM
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3. "Primary documents?" You mean links to OTHER "Climate Progress" web pages?
There is not a single reference to a "primary research" document in that circle jerk.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-14-10 12:37 AM
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5. Really? Feel free to read this and let us know how it is not a piece of primary research
I can understand how "discussions based upon real numbers rather than mysterious “Black Box” secrets" would be the very last thing that the Nuclear Energy Institute would like to engage in.

"The new study, Business Risks and Costs of New Nuclear Power, is one of the most detailed cost analyses publically available on the current generation of nuclear power plants being considered in this country. It is by a leading expert in power plant costs, Craig A. Severance. A practicing CPA, Severance is co-author of The Economics of Nuclear and Coal Power (Praeger 1976), and former Assistant to the Chairman and to Commerce Counsel, Iowa State Commerce."

In contrast to this transparency, many nuclear promoters have adopted a “Black Box” approach. It has unfortunately been the case over the last couple of years that some utilities have begun to claim that even rudimentary basics of their nuclear cost estimates must be hidden from the public as “trade secrets”. For instance, in the South Carolina Electric & Gas proposal to build two reactors now under consideration by the South Carolina PSC, there is literally a large “box” obscuring the bulk of the calculations in the SC E&G Exhibit which presents the utility’s projection of construction and financing costs for the proposed two-unit facility. In a different case, Duke Energy claimed that it does not even have to disclose its new cost estimates for a proposed nuclear facility in Cherokee County, S.C.. In the Duke case, C. Dukes Scott, South Carolina’s consumer advocate, who represents the public in utility rate cases, noted, “If the cost wasn’t confidential in February,” Scott said, “how is it confidential in April?”

Even when no effort to conceal information is apparent, the very terminology used when projections are presented can be confusing or misleading. For instance, in 2007 when a number of new nuclear proposals began to advance, it was common for “Overnight Cost” estimates to be quoted. For a project (such as solar or wind) whose construction period may be as short as several months, the difference between an “overnight” cost and the full cost to complete the project may not be significant. However, for a nuclear project that may typically take a decade to complete, cost escalations that occur during this long construction period, plus the financing costs during construction, may easily double the total cost of a project compared to its “overnight” cost. When the full picture is presented, some may perceive the total cost estimate has mysteriously doubled. However, it simply should have been stated clearly to begin with that major escalation and financing costs cannot be avoided when it takes a long time to complete a project. Failure to do so is tantamount to selling someone a house with “teaser” initial mortgage payments and failing to make clear that the mortgage payments will later reset to a much higher level.

Another mysterious “black box” presentation method is to fold the overall costs of the new facility into the general rate base of the utility, without ever mentioning what the generation costs per kWh of the nuclear unit will be. Instead, it is often only presented how total costs per kWh for all ratepayers will increase — which includes kWh’s generated by existing generation units. (For instance, if a nuclear unit is to supply 20% of the kWh’s for the utility when it comes on line, any cost increase per kWh appears to only be 1/5 as large because the additional costs are also spread over the 80% of kWh’s generated by other facilities, even though those other facilities did not cause the rate increase.) While it is important to know the impact on final overall retail electric rates, it is also important to know the generation costs per kWh from the nuclear facility. If this step is “skipped” in public presentations, the nuclear units (or any new generation power source that is more expensive than existing units) can appear far cheaper than their real impact.

The Paper takes the approach that it is best to lay out in detail “how you got that number” at each step of the way. All parties can then proceed to have discussions based upon real numbers rather than mysterious “Black Box” secrets.


I can understand how "discussions based upon real numbers rather than mysterious “Black Box” secrets" would be the very last thing that the Nuclear Energy Institute would like to engage in.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-14-10 12:49 PM
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6. Crickets...
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-14-10 08:27 PM
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7. Thought something happened to you.
Hadn't seen you around. :(
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:06 AM
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8. Snowstorms have kept me busy.
This area doesn't get much snow and our transportation/electric/comm systems were unable to cope. Power/phones went out (5 days) and the surge fried my modem. Took several more days before roads were safe enough to go out for luxuries like a modem.

It was a great argument for distributed generation.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 12:40 PM
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9. Kick
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