Lets face it; Most Republicans and Conservatives Hate Us.

[Homer12]

They hate the radical center, liberals, progressives, and the left for who we are, what we believe in, and the actions that we take.

Most believe that we are ALL traitors for protesting and criticizing the far-right wing actions of them and the Bush administration.

Let's face it, we have to wake up to the fact that the right-wing is not playing a game, but they have been fighting a war against progress, a war against total equality for all Americans, a war against homosexuals and minorities in this country. They hate the idea of economic equality and social justice. They like to intimidate international politics by war and force.

The RNC hate-fest against us should be More than enough proof that they are fighting this war to win at all costs, they will burn pillage and destroy all that are in their way.

They DO not want to give up power, from the lowly easily manipulated storm-trooper brown-shirt on free-republic and the unthinking ditto-head Rush clone to the master PR mind control machine of Rove and the right-wing propaganda masters, to the imperialistic neo-conservatives, to the christian evangelical extremists.

They are at WAR with us, as much as they are at WAR with the rest of reality and the world that does not succumb to their will.

[Xipe Totec]

1. The Hate Us For Our Freedoms!

They want to outsource freedom to other countries and we're using it all up.

:dem:

[jeff30997]

2. So ?

I won't loose Any sleep thinking about those lunatics hating me.It's just like worrying about mosquitoes biting you'r butt.Ridiculous.

[tandot]

3. They hate all people who do not like Bush

which means that they hate most Americans and the rest of the world...

[iconoclastic cat]

4. Yeah, I realized that right around the time they put the PATRIOT Act out.

But, really, it's not half the country; it's only about a quarter. Half don't care, and the other quarter is us.

[Upfront]

5. No Shit?

Ah, Where you been?

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[mmonk]

7. People who hate

don't view it as hate but a grievance. But their anger and their name calling and slander is not matched by others and betrays them as reasoned people.

[mmonk]

8. also

there are always people with anger out there on both sides. But inside the convention halls of the two parties, the difference was stark.

[Sugarbleus]

9. They do hate liberals.... it's standard fare for a fascist...

Exercising power, growing imperialism, accumulating wealth, and hating the "libertines". Liberals are a challenge to their strict controlling agenda. Hitler hated the "libertine" influence...blamed all germany's problems on that culture.

Even if we hadn't been attacked on 9/11 nor had any terrorist threat whatsoever......the neo cons would still be after us with all this vitriol that we see today. They would STILL be trying to undo everthing the progressive party has worked to create over countless decades in this country.

[amber dog democrat]

10. The motivation is fear, hate

and greed. Hidden behind a patina of lies. I really believe its a one issue matter for the repugs: either Abortion, Money, Jingoistic patriotism, or sustaining the myths that make them feel more secure.

Maybe narcicissm too. No wonder they hate us.

[DuaneBidoux]

11. Don't take it personally

Their essence is hate.

[grace0418]

12. The hatred comes from ignorance and fear

True, some cons just plain hate us. They understand our beliefs, they understand that we have the right to speak our minds, they understand that we actually care about others besides ourselves. But they hate us anyway because they're ugly, hateful, greedy, selfish people.

But then there is the other face of conservativism. And I think it's really sad in this day and age. It's people who are ignorant, scared, stubborn and sheltered. They don't understand what liberalism really is, and if told they are afraid of the truth. They are afraid of anyone different, they are afraid of having to make decisions without their pastors, Bibles, politicians, or friends telling them what they should think. If they have to think for themselves they have panic attacks. They believe anything they're told by the "right" people and reject anything they're told by the "wrong" people. Their cultural and social prejudices are so ingrained in them that it's impossible for them to see the truth. But mostly they're afraid. Afraid of change, afraid of progress, afraid of going to hell, afraid of being ridiculed, afraid of losing what is familiar, afraid of disappointing their loved ones, afraid to admit they might be wrong, afraid to admit the person who raised them might be wrong... the list goes on.

It makes me very sad to see people who cannot evolve and use their brains. Was worse is that these people might just bring down the whole human race with their ignorance.

[CPUSA04]

13. ...

actually, i know many conservatives, and was one for many years, they dont relly hate us.

[VOX]

14. What planet are you from, Spherus Disruptus?

I'm sure you do know many conservatives. You have stated in another post that you are for Bush*.

So what do you mean by "us."

[Homer12]

15. Then are we looked down upon

as misguided and inferior Americans, not worthy of citizenship ?

How do they view us then?

[Sympleesmshn]

27. yeah

Most of the conservatives I know look down on us. The ones who hate us are the ones who are afraid of us and are so set in there ways that they wont even try to see your point of view because it is wrong.

[vduhr]

16. I find it unbelievable that most of them hate so much

yet there are so many of them that claim they are Christians. I think the term "conservative Christian" is an oxymoron. If they truly believed in Christ's teachings, they wouldn't be so intolerant. Unfortunately, most religion is bent to the likings of the church's leaders, and so many Republicans are such good followers.

[kittynboi]

17. It does seem....

.......that right now, most self identified conservatives do hate liberals. The reasons seem pretty nonexistant, and I just assume many just get it from the distorted rambalings of Coulter and Limbaugh.

I think that one element to this is that they don't realize they're hating 25%-50% or more of the people in the U.S. They have this idea that alll liberals are evil, volvo driving secularists hold up in big cities that a conservative can't even enter without getting offended by something. I think most conservatives don't realize that many people around them day to day hold "liberal" beliefs and would probably be shocked to find out how many people they know on some level hold beliefs they would categorize as "liberal."

[djohnston]

18. I was recently on RonaldReagan.com...

looking at the discussion board there, I know, what was I thinking you may ask? I really just wanted to get a sense of their mind-set, try to get a feel for where they come from. It was scary! Many, if not most, had scripture quotes in their sigs, meaning they honestly believe theirs is the lords work. And their belief that the war in Iraq is a just one was unshakable. They truly think that the lives of millions of Americans depend on us being there, though I can't fathom how they rationalize that one, suffice it to say they swallow the party line without question. Sad.

[USA_1]

19. hate + war ....

Agree 100% with what you have written.

Hatred is a great motivator for these traitors. Part of their strategy is the fact that they join with each other in internet web forums to promote their hatred. They will post some absolute garbage that has no basis in reality and then criticize anyone who dares to question what they write. Then, several of their fold will attack anyone who dissents from this right wing garbage. On top of all that, if you post a thread on some issue and back it up with facts, they criticize you and fill up the thread with one insult after another. They will NOT address your issue if they know it is correct. BUT THEY WILL CRITICIZE IT TO NO END!

If you dare respond, they accuse YOU of hatred! Then they say you are overly emotional or ranting. On top of all that, the board moderators are often right wingers who will delete your posts but will allow the right wing hatemongers to post propaganda garbage on top of more garbage without any deletions.

I have asked you members of this board to flood the internet forums with the TRUTH as it is taught in the DNC. Unfortunately, you choose to cower away and refuse to fight back by posting on right wing forums. What happens, then, is that undecided voters or others who are not committed to any political party or ideological viewpoint become convinced that the right wingers are correct. This will happen because they continually see right wing posts with little or no rebuttal from anyone else.

Silence is death. And the silence from your end of the political spectrum will allow the right wing America haters to remain in the White House. The result thereafter? Well, just imagine what another four years of Bush will mean.

To me, that is too frightening to imagine.

[Evergreen Emerald]

20. Speaking of hate

I live in WA state, and I turned on the radio on the way home from work the other night as a female caller was talking to Right-Wing radio talk show host. The mother was giggling and explaining that her three-year-old daughter loves George Bush and says that John Kerry is going to "kill her." I heard the little girl in the back ground.
As Carlson and the mom cooed about how cute that three-year-old's statement was, I was stunned. How awful for a little girl--who believes everything her mother tells her and is extremely literal at that age--to have such fear of another person. She thinks John Kerry is going to kill her.
The radio show as well as all of the other radical right-wing biased shows that fill the airways as I drive home, are dividing America. I cannot find a balanced program on the raido. They are reinforcing the us-versus-them mentality. The shows dehumanize "liberal" as evil and un-American. Once dehumanized it is easier to hate and discount and ridicule all who are actually intelligent, kind, thoughtful, hardworking, caring Americans, albeit with a different opinion than they espouse.
I e-mailed him when I got home to tell him that I understand that must make a living. I understand that the more radical he is the more money he makes. But he misuses your powerful forum, giving legitimacy to the extreme. And pretend they are the mainstream.
I told him he has a duty to America to use his power wisely. Instead he giggles along with the mother as she instills hate and fear in her three-year-old baby.

[USA_1]

21. that's a scary story .....

.... but not surprising considering how modern day Nazism has creeped into our society


http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/04/09/far04031.html

[RaleighNCDUer]

24. That's only the start --

The dehumanizing of the 'other' doesn't only make it easy to hate and ridicule. It makes it easy to kill. There is a small, but loud, very dangerous fringe to these people, the fringe that produces the Tim McVeigh's. Scarier yet, they become more dangerous when they are out of power. The RW bombings, the abortion doctor shootings, the church burnings all are most prevalent when Dems are in the whitehouse. I hate to say it, but after Kerry wins we are in for a bad few years with these guys.

[baby_mouse]

23. Here's what I think

I agree that there should be more attacks on the hate boards, but I think what's missing is back up. It's a case of putting your head above the parapet.

There are amazing loops going on in their thinking which must be shown to them but I think it's better to corner them. I think people should attack in pairs, or perhaps threes, in a co-ordinated fashion, agreeing with each other before the attack to participate co-operatively. We should practice the principles of what we preach.

An argument must be begun with reasoned responses and continued until the vitriol starts and then the second should finish it off by quoting one of the numerous examples of "Liberals are irrational and emotional", or whichever assertion the freeptards or other flavour of ass-weasel make about "liberals" that they've just been guilty of themselves (this will not be difficult to do, almost all of them end up contradicting themselves or blaming "liberals" for doing things that much more commonly they do themselves). It will be much more powerful if the comparison is revealed by a secondary debating source, another registered user. The second user should then force the debate back up that line, on the grounds of the contradiction, asking why original poster feels so strongly, examining the *structure* of the vitriol, and when the first attacker thinks it's worth another go he/she should start again.

If, of course, there is only a deathly silence at the end of the inital attack run, the first and second attackers should congratulate each other publically.

Some people may think this is aggressive. If you do, all you have to do is go and look at what *they're* saying.

Of course, this is only one strategy. Another would be to come back here or to another friendly board to ask for help in demolishing some ass-weasels and doing it ad hoc, en masse. A lot of the time a bit of group support will boost morale.

This IS an ideological war, and as such some the truisms about conventional warfare apply, morale is very important, so there's nothing wrong in my mind with stimulating it artificially. It's only the overtone, the atmosphere in which we post which puts us off attacking these sites en masse, in co-ordinated groups at co-ordinated times, one person putting their head above the parapet is a sitting duck, 50 are force to be reckoned with and have to do less work.

Of course, the en-masse strategy is more likely to get you banned from the site.

[Still_Notafraid]

22. They hate us Because

Because of fear they have a hyper since of fear.thats why when Republicans run elections its always based on fear it is what these hyper fear people understand and respond to.

Democrats are concerned
Republicans are scared

There is two things you do when you are afraid you fight or flight,doesn't matter which one you do your still scared.

[vajraroshana]

25. Yeah, so what...

... we've just gotta get thick-skinned.

Wanna know how?


ask me, 'cause I'm gettin' there. Ain't there yet...


...but I got some suggestions.......

[jdots]

26. what do we do about the media controling this hate ?

With 2 zillion stations competing for ratings and that advertising buck,they go with cheap shots,reality shows that aren't reality,cover fights =its free and if there aren't any just create some.Make the left and right hate each other,it's cheaper than producing quality entertainment.A hate show is cheap to produce,you don't even pay the guests,turn a discussion into a brawl get those ratings and advertisers.
One thing the right is against is imagination,they think it's foolish and soft.i asked a right winger to imagine he was a kid in Iraq,his reply was " I don't play that imagine game "They have learned to not use thier imaginations and it's gonna be very hard for them to get it back from thier remote controls. Do they hate us ? they have been taught to.

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