Will the media ask if Bush flight logs show a drug problem?

[papau]

And Thank You, AP for filing the FOIA law suite that forced the White House to disclosed the very interesting flight logs.

http://www.purepolitics.com/dau8.htm

http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/9626416.htm

Papers: Bush Piloted Guard Training Jets

MATT KELLEY

Associated Press


WASHINGTON - After routinely piloting a fighter jet solo for most of his career, George W. Bush began flying a two-seat jet designed for training in the weeks just before the Texas Air National Guard stripped him of his pilot's privileges in 1972, flight logs show.

The logs indicate Bush did half of his final 21 flights in a training jet or simulator, and on four occasions he sat in the co-pilot's position after more than a year of commanding a single-seat F-102A fighter by himself.

The logs also show the future president was heavily focused at the end of his pilot time on flying by instruments - a skill he mastered during his initial training three years earlier with near-perfect scores of 97 and 98.<snip>


However, the logs show Bush flew nine times in T-33 training jets and two more times on a simulator in February and March 1972 - nearly twice as many times as he had flown in training vehicles in the prior 18 months in the Guard.<snip>

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,131961,00.html

Experts Examine Bush Pilot Logs
Friday, September 10, 2004

WASHINGTON — George W. Bush began flying a two-seat jet especially designed for training purposes more frequently in the weeks just before he quit flying for the Texas Air National Guard, and twice required multiple attempts to land a one-seat fighter, his pilot logs show. <snip>

He flew eight times in the training vehicle in one week alone. On four of the trainer flights, Bush moved from primary pilot to co-pilot even though he had advanced from a second to a first lieutenant, the logs show.

The T-33 jet is designed to help train pilots early in their career, allowing for a more experienced pilot to sit behind a trainee before the trainee is permitted to fly solo in a single-pilot jet. During his pilot schooling at the beginning of his National Guard career, Bush flew extensively in the T-33.<snip>

The logs also show that Bush, who throughout his career usually landed his jet with a single pass, required two passes to land the F-102A fighter on March 12 and April 10, 1972. His last flight as an Air National Guard pilot cam,e six days later .<snip>

White House officials also could not explain the final two entries of Bush's official flight logs that refer to him being assigned to work as an instructional pilot in late May 1972 at a Texas Air National Guard base. Bush actually sought permission and left the base for Alabama before the dates listed on the flight logs and his pay records show he wasn't paid for any work on the two dates of the instructional pilot assignment. The logs have a code indicating the assignments were eventually deleted from his official records. White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan said the entries could have been a simple paperwork error.




http://billingsgazette.com/index.php?id=1&display=rednews/2004/09/08/build/nation/35-bush-grades.inc

Bush's pilot grades released
Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush ranked in the middle of his Air National Guard flight class and flew 336 hours in a fighter jet before letting his pilot status lapse and missing a key readiness drill in 1972, according to his flight records belatedly uncovered Tuesday under the Freedom of Information Act.

The Pentagon and Bush's campaign have claimed for months that all records detailing his fighter pilot career have been made public, but defense officials said they found two dozen new records detailing his training and flight logs after The Associated Press filed a lawsuit and submitted new requests under the public records law.

"Previous requests from other requesters for President Bush's Individual Flight Records did not lead to the discovery of these records because at the time President Bush left the service, flight records were subject to retention for only 24 months and we understood that neither the Air Force nor the Texas Air National Guard retained such records thereafter," the Pentagon told the AP.

[bushwakker]

1. no - too "murky"

the sbl's claims on the other hand are cut and dried.

[madrchsod]

2. yes it does

there is no other reason that this would occur...other than an organic brain disorder. opp`s maybe ol`e george just got tired of playing sky pilot and decided to do something else after all one of his dad`s friends will "fix it up" for him.

[papau]

3. I agree - Paul Burka's book with Bush plane crash is forgotton somehow

http://www.seanet.com/~johnco/bush102.htm

Chasing George W. Bush and the F-102
A piece that got this started.

What he's like in real life.
by Paul Burka

"Well, am I running?" George W. Bush demanded to know.

I happened to be sitting in my Suburban near the south door of the state capitol, discharging a passenger, just as the governor's silver-gray Lincoln Continental was doing the same. It was early February, well before he would announce the formation of a presidential exploratory committee, and a smidgen of suspense still lingered. I had waved at Bush as he went past, and he had swerved over to deliver the opening gambit in one of his favorite games: conversational one-upmanship. Having played it before, I knew I didn't have a chance.

"Sure," I said. "You'd be the wuss of all time if you didn't."

"But what about the rumors?" he shot back. Then, to my utter stupefaction, he proceeded to tick off everything the national press was investigating about his past: five or six of the most salacious things that could be said about anyone—including, in his own words, "I bought cocaine at my dad's inauguration"—plus intimate gossip about his family.

As he well knew, I had already heard all of it through the media grapevine. "You missed one," I said. "You crashed a jet while you were in the National Guard because you were drunk."

He spread his hands. "That's easy," he said. "Where's the plane?" Game over. He spun around and headed off

4-Performance Grades are missing - much in Bush's records to think about. The main thing that gets me is; as a pilot he could have been anywhere in the US and been able to get a ride back to Houston for his weekend duty. Even non- pilots could do it by flying standby on MATS. But W didn't do it. He had to get a transfer to a unit in Alabama. Missing his physical took him to a non-flying status, but even that wouldn't have stopped him from riding a back seat in a T-33 going home for duty.

He missed all his physicals after May 1971, so he couldn't have kept his "pilot" rating, but that is the MOS on his discharge. What did he do as a non-pilot in the Guard? If he didn't miss the physicals, then they should be in his record. They aren't.



the Bush planes - or at least he claims to have flown them:




Christmas 1972- a job at Project PULL (the placement Hatfield would insist was community service to expunge his alleged cocaine bust).

Air National Guard Commanding Officer Alleges Bush Military Records Cleansing
http://www.talion.com/georgebush.html#burkett


And here, Lt. Col. Bill Burkett explains the aftermath that he, and others, have had to deal with for being courageous whistleblowers. The irony is that with the media controlled by a monopoly of the few, most in the US haven't learned of this man's courage to come forward with this information


Discipline in Denver?
http://www.talion.com/signature2.html
http://www.talion.com/punish.html

[DVD]

4. Planes President Bush flew

He also flew these:

[papau]

5. Nothing in the logs show he flew the one seat version - though "pilot"

is used for many log entries.

The Texas base had both 2 seat and one seat versions! (the rest of the world had only the one seat - LOL)

But I'll agree that their is no known reason that Bush could not have flown the one seat version where the "pilot" is noted in the log -

except for his cowardice of course, and drunk, and drug problems, and the protective envelope the Bush family put around their their favorite son -

but those aren't real reasons - they are Fox Cable News type "reasons" - and at DU we try to be more honest that Fox -

so I say he probably did fly a single seat F102A - once it was known that they were no longer going to be used in Vietnam.

LOL....... -

:-)