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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 08:54 PM
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How many Dean supporters would support a Clark/Dean ticket?
Ok, we've seen the thread asking about Dean/clark. Now I'm asking, as a Dean supporter, could you support a Clark/Dean ticket?

I would have no problem if Clark could make it 30-60 days into the campaign without a major misstep. Really, that's my only concern about Clark right now, he hasn't had to hold up under press scrutiny.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 08:58 PM
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1. I'd find that an intriguing ticket...
With no offense to Kerry or Dean-- both whom I could see myself supporting, I think Clark may well be the magic bullet that will be needed to bump the Repugnicans off the "defense=republican" pedestal.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 09:21 PM
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5. Clark is a better speaking Kerry - I'd like a Clark/Dean or
any other combination

Anyone but Bush
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 09:00 PM
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2. I think you better ask Govenor Dean!
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 09:02 PM
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3. I would support anyone Dean puts on the ticket
frankly, my first two choices are Gov. Richardson of New Mexico and Senator Graham of Florida.
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 09:07 PM
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4. Yes
or Graham.
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Crowdance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 09:24 PM
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6. We just don't know enough about him yet
It's a problem that he hasn't a political record to refer to. It's going to be very difficult to gauge his positions on issues; the military is not exactly open to scrutiny.

He's going to need to put himself out there quite a bit, and engage in some really open discussion, in order to be considered.
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tsipple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 09:45 PM
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7. Don't Know Much about Clark
Don't think anyone does, really. I know I would support Dean/Clark (since Dean is smart enough to pick his VP). I'm at least inclined to support Clark/Dean, but it'd be nice to know more.

As an aside, you should know that we go through this same situation every four years. The press (primarily) whine about how no one running for the Democratic nomination is worth electing and how awful it is that so-and-so isn't running, isn't running yet, or is running but isn't getting any support. It's called the DemoPressDarling Syndrome. Former honorees include Paul Tsongas, Bruce Babbitt, and Bill Bradley. This year, Tim Russert (particularly) is wetting his pants over a Wesley Clark candidacy.

I'm afraid I can't join Tim in that ritual. Not just because I want to keep my pants. Quite simply, Wesley Clark isn't running. He may, in which case I can learn more then. But at the moment, what's the point? Such fretting only detracts from the nine who are the only ones in a position to win the nomination. And there are nine great choices. Well, eight if you don't count Lieberman. :-)
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AmericanErrorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 09:54 PM
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8. I would prefer Dean/Clark
clark could advise Dean on Military Issues, like "How big is our military?" Even My Boy, Denny K. knows that.
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tameszu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:05 PM
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9. Hey, no repeating SCLM memes here...
Edited on Sun Aug-10-03 10:11 PM by tameszu
...Dean did get that one pretty much right...at least within a reasonable MoE. I think Clark would back him on that. ;)

Seriously, I think it's pretty obvious that I'm a Clark sympathizer, but that I also really like Dean.

Dean/Clark would be interesting, but I think it would be a big risk...which could pay off huge, if the American people

That said, I think that Dean/Richardson would be a more prudent pick, as Richardson has foreign policy strength and executive experience and could create a massive hispanic mobilization. I also like Graham as far as profile and gravitas and Florida go...would he be a good fit for the tone of the campaign, though? He seems a little too staid for Dean...maybe that wouldn't be such a bad thing...and I would hope that Clark would be involved in the campaign, though, maybe as a Secy of State pick--here's hoping for a clean primary campaign!
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UnapologeticLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:59 PM
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10. I would prefer it the other way around
But I guess if Clark or anyone else were the nominee I would be thrilled if they picked Dean as their running mate.

For some reason, though, I have trouble seeing him at the bottom of the ticket. I guess part of it is that we in the campaign love to spend time discussing who his VP should be as if he already has the nomination sown up. :D But i think I have an especially hard time picturing a ticket with one of the senators or congressmen at the top and Dean at the bottom, I guess because a lot of the tickets we have seen in the last 25 years have been a governor at the top and a senator or congressman at the bottom (Carter/Mondale, Dukakis/Bentsen, Clinton/Gore, Bush/Cheney (Cheney was in the House at one point). So it is hard to picture a ticket that is the other way around...not that it would be a bad thing, it would just be unusual.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 12:11 AM
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11. UL, I have the same problem that you do...
I couldn't imagine Dean as the second banana to any of the other eight declared candidates. I think that Clark is a much different animal though, and could support a Dean/Clark or Clark/Dean ticket.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 02:47 AM
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12. I'm an..
ABB guy.

Dean's my #1.
As I hear more and more about Clark, he's quickly becoming my #2 choice.

That having been said, a Dean/Clark ticket is my first choice, but Clark/Dean is a mighty second choice.

The doctor and the general. Sounds like a winning team to me!
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 02:51 AM
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13. I would throw my full support behind ANY dem nominee
And if Dean were on the ticket, I'd do it with a smile on my face.

My preference, of course, would be Dean/Clark.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 06:14 AM
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14. I would throw my support behind any nominee
but I would have to think twice about voting for Lieberman though.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:11 PM
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15. I'm okay with it
But of course I'll support any ticket that comes out of the convention.

Which means, if Clark wants a shot, he has got to start campaigning.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:42 PM
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16. I would like to learn more from Clark himself what he hopes to do
as president; however, from what I do know of him and if Dean agreed to a VP slot, I'd support the ticket. I'll support almost any ticket, so long as it takes us far away from Bushville.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:53 PM
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17. I'm close to ABB
Though I do have my limits. Clark is reasonable and I'd vote for him.

Given Clark is afraid to call himself a Democrat, I have serious concerns about him being our best choice. This isn't the time for 2002-style risk-averse campaigning.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 02:44 PM
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18. I'd definitely support Clark/Dean!
I think that would be great!
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:20 PM
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19. Hell, I'll vote Moseley-Braun/Sharpton if that's what it comes to...
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 03:21 PM by MercutioATC
I'd rather see a Dean/Clark ticket, but I'll vote for whomever gains the nomination.
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