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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:27 AM
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I am begining to believe that I am seeing an ABDOC (Anybody But Dean Or Clark) phenomenon in the last few days and particularly in the last day. Maybe it is going to become a real horse race.

Anybody else seeing the same thing? Too early to tell? A delusion? (This is not what I want, let me assure you.)

Since I am getting off the computer now, I am not looking to start some flame contest --- I am just wondering.
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WealthAndDemocracy Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:32 AM
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1. That would be fine with me, for a LOT of reasons
I'll settle for the fact that I finally settled on a candidate about a week ago, and he's looking good in Iowa right now.
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rogerashton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:38 AM
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2. Anybody but anybody.
n/t
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:48 AM
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3. ABA - Anybody but John Adams... John Adams cannot win.
He's from the Northeast. He's too angry. He's too arrogant. He's too short. He's too slow on his feet to respond to an attack. He's been dead for almost 2 centuries.

John Adams CANNOT WIN!
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:16 AM
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6. Yeah but Howard Dean..............
wears cheap suits and drinks latte. Totally unelectable. ;)
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:00 AM
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4. interesting observation
could be that there are just too many 'unknowns' regarding dean and clark. remember that clinton was elected by the middle-of-the-road voters.
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nightperson Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:11 AM
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5. I don't know.
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 08:15 AM by secondtermdenier
But I've been wondering for a while if any highly placed Democratic "Powers That Be" might be losing patience with the internal Dean vs. Clark stalemate, and the inability of either thus far to rock the bigger house and out poll Bush. Dean still hasn't won over more than 1/3 of the party, and Clark still hasn't "stopped" Dean. Back to Kerry for those unconvinced by Dean? :shrug: Hey, look at my avatar, I haven't understood what was going on "behind the scenes" for a while:-( . What are we doing? What's the plan? What I do easily know is: If the election were held today, we'd definitely say "Well, that didn't work". Right?
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:19 AM
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7. Patience.
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 08:20 AM by liberalmuse
Clinton didn't come close to outpolling the other Bush at this time in his candidacy, and the party wasn't thrilled with him, either. Considering we haven't even decided who our guy will be, and that we still have 8 candidates in the running, I think we're doing pretty darned good.

On edit: In saying 'we', I mean the Democrats in general against Bush.
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