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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 11:44 PM
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Kerry will CLOBBER Bush with BCCI and Ollie North's Contra connection...
The Bush Organized Crime Family fears no candidate more than John F. Kerry. The reason? Hes gone after them, Big Time.

Ever hear of BCCI? Probably not, but that crooked bank got George W Bush his HARKEN money from the BIN LADEN and helped Pakistan get the nuclear BOMB, as well as helped arm Saddam Hussein in the 1980s. All the while, the bank helped traffic arms and drugs, launder billions, and bribe government officials around the world and across the United States. Despite the best efforts of the Bush White House to protect the corrupt institution and its Middle East investors, Sen. John Kerry helped shut it down.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3333.ht...

http://ist-socrates.berkeley.edu/~pdscott/q4b.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/INL110A.html


Ever hear of Iran-Contra drug running? Again, probably not, given the captive media. Anyway, Traitor and CIA White House Action Officer and all-around turd Ollie North seems to have been the point man for a massive cocaine smuggling operation, using US Government personnel and equipment, under CIA cover, to make money to FUND an illegal TERROR war in Nicaragua. Bush didn't like this at all, so he ordered North to sic the FBI's counter-terror unit on Kerry.

http://www.assumption.edu/WebVAX/Mena/Horman22Oct96.htm...

http://www.conspire.com/drugscia.html

http://www.csun.edu/CommunicationStudies/ben/news/cia/9...


Of course. Both of the above were covered up in the name of national security. It wasnt just Pruneface Reagan and Poppy Bush covering their heinies by themselves. There was plenty of help from the other side of the aisle.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0302/S00119.htm

http://www.strike-the-root.com/3/rarey/rarey2.html

http://lists.essential.org/1996/dioxin-l/msg00605.html


Our country really is at war. More than conservative versus liberal, its good versus evil. And John Kerry is a good guy and a war hero. Thats the kind of courageous leadership our nation needs and the BFEE fears.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 11:47 PM
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1. Thank you for a wonderful thread, Octa
They should be afraid, very afraid, of Kerry.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:39 AM
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4. You're welcome, LibertyChick! JK's wanted to bust them a long time...
The summer before he went to college is when I think John Kerry decided he wanted to be President of the United States:



John Kerry, left, sails with President John F. Kennedy
aboard the 62-foot Coast Guard yawl Manitou
in Narragansett Bay on Aug. 26, 1962.

The BFEE went public November 22, 1963. Those who went with the program, got ahead. Those who questioned it, got dead physically or socially or through character assassination. Kerry is brave, smart and tough enough to bring these traitors to Justice.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 11:57 PM
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2. What's he waiting for?
???
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:04 AM
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3. Mebbe JK doesn't want to get labeled "conspiracy candidate"...
... I imagine, although Kerry has mentioned BCCI in a couple of speeches, as well as a couple of candidate forums. If I were his campaign communications consultant, I'd recommend he blast this far and wide and connect the dots all the way to 9-11 and the Little Turd from Crawford.

Funny. That still wouldn't explain why Ho-Ho opened his wug about Smirk and pre-knowledge the other day. That must have been a coincidence.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 01:05 AM
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5. If Kerry has the goods on Bush, he should use them...
If he waits till the last second, voters will just think he's being desperate and chalk it up to crass politics.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 01:10 AM
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6. Agree 100 percent.
Looking at it politically, now is the time. What good is an unplayed Ace?

Looking at it from what's best for defeating BFEE, perhaps later is best. That way, you might trump your opponent's Ace.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 01:38 AM
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7. Let's recap, shall we
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 01:46 AM by sandnsea
Summer 2002, Bushies make oinking noises about war.

July 2002, Kerry leads the way in criticizing the Bush Administration after 9/11. Confronts the rhetoric and blustering in dealing with Iraq. Forces Bush to the UN. Reported in Reuters.

January 2003. Kerry delivers "Do Not Rush to War" speech. Administration all in a fluster deflecting the "rush to war" rhetoric saying Saddam has had 12 years to disarm. Remember?

Kerry has cancer surgery, the consequences of having this in the middle of this mess, we'll never know.

In June 2003, the leaks begin. Kerry pressures for investigation on Niger uranium, intelligence, etc. Rand Beers goes to work for Kerry. The Plame leak. Joe Wilson goes to work for Kerry. Hoopla.

Bush falls, Dean rises.

Kerry sees these efforts are helping Dean. Kerry says, shush. Congress, the CIA and all parties... shush.

For the time being, Kerry will run his campaign to win. He'll save the real taking down of Bush for next year, no matter who the candidate is.

IMHO.

On edit:

Oh and let's not forget Max Cleland on the 9/11 commission. If he's gone to the import/export commission, it's because he's following the money. And Bob Kerrey, say what you like about him, but he is a Vietnam vet. The Congressional vets stuck together.
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DeanIsAPitbull Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 04:19 AM
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8. Nobody will care
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:57 AM
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21. So you're depending upon ignorance to elect Dean?
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 06:42 PM
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22. Please read post #18
Mr & Mrs MiddleAmerica do NOT hang out on DU. They would learn a lot, but they probably don't even know we exist. The reason Dean is so high in the polls right now is not because of the man or his issues - it's because of name recognition. If he becomes the DEM nominee - it's all over for us.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 02:31 AM
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23. People with even just one thought in their head should care.
Here's why. Someone hijacked your government. Not just on December 12, 2000 or September 11, 2001. It happened on November 22, 1963. What ties all these events together? The BFEE. Here's a guy who predicted the 9-11 modus operandi.

Why would Osama bin Laden want to kill Dubya, his former business partner?

By James Hatfield

SNIP...

July 3, 2001There may be fireworks in Genoa, Italy, this month, too.

A plot by Saudi master terrorist, Osama bin Laden, to assassinate Dubya during the July 20 economic summit of world leaders, was uncovered after dozens of suspected Islamic militants linked to bin Laden's international terror network were arrested in Frankfurt, Germany, and Milan, Italy, in April.

German intelligence services have stated that bin Laden is covertly financing neo-Nazi skinhead groups throughout Europe to launch another terrorist attack at a high-profile American targethis first since the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen last October.

According to counter-terrorism experts quoted in Germany's largest newspaper, the attack on Dubya might be a James Bond-like aerial strike in the form of remote-controlled airplanes packed with plastic explosives.

CONTINUED...

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Hatfield-R...

Jim Hatfield was found in a hotel room, the victime of a "suicide" two weeks IIRC after this article was published. Hatfield also wrote Fortunate Son about Smirko the Dim, a book which helped innoculate the public to the W AWOL and cocaine stories.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:59 AM
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9. Pssst - Nominate the Democrat Who Can Beat Bush!
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 08:00 AM by molly
I received this email this morning - hiring a classroom full of advisors is NOT the same as having experience!

George W. Bush and Karl Rove plan to run on national security in the general election. As the cover of the right-wing National Review proves, the Republican leadership is hoping that Democrats nominate Howard Dean because they can portray him as weak on national security and foreign policy.

The Republicans are scared of John Kerry because they know he is the one candidate who can stand up to Bush. Not only is Kerry a decorated combat veteran, but his deep foreign policy experience -- forged by 19 years on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and 6 years on the Senate Intelligence Committee -- means he can go head-to-head with Bush and win.

So, if you want to beat Bush, nominate the Democrat with the best chance of defeating him. John Kerry knows something about aircraft carriers for real. And, as Time Magazine's Joe Klein put it, Kerry possesses "the most responsible" vision for peace in Iraq - a concrete, realistic plan to bring in our allies, share the burden, and win the peace.

George W. Bush has already amassed over $100 million dollars for his reelection campaign -- and if Howard Dean is the nominee, you can rest assured that Bush will use this war chest to eviscerate Dean on matters of national security and foreign policy.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:48 PM
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18. 2004 will be the National Security Election.
A draft dodger even a PERCEIVED draft dodger cant win. It's a natural fact more than half the country still supports the unelected turd because "he's protecting us from terra."

It's not just me thinking up this stuff. How can Dean transform Mr. and Mrs. Middle America's thinking to trust their security and their kids in uniform to somebody who wouldn't himself serve? To help people remember in the Fall, Herr Roeverer will turn his $200 million ad buy into a Coward the Duck turkey-shoot.

Here's a nice photo of a guy who experience a miraculous healing after he carried a note from his orthopedist and an X-ray from his radiologist and knew just what to say, "My back hurts when I run a long ways."

Gov. Dean has a varied collection of photos, objects and books on the shelves behind his desk. Below, he shows off a loon he won in the New England Governors' Ski Challenge, a friendly but spirited rivalry that began in 1992 out of a disagreement over advertising claims by Vermont ski areas.



SOURCE: The George Washington University.

http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/dean/dean0702/deanoffic...


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maxr4clark Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 11:37 AM
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27. Why not Clark?

Why "the one", not one of the two?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 09:37 AM
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10. Let's say that he would do this. Question.
If he doesn't get the nomination, will he sit on the info for another 15 years?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 09:58 AM
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11. When the GOP rules, it's hard to get stuff out, isn't it?
Look at the Plame Affair. That's treason, pure and simple. Will either the Senate or House lift a finger? Not as long as they're GOP controlled. Will the courts? Not as long as the majority of judges have been appointed by the GOP. How about the executive branch? Oh, yeah. That's controlled by the GOP.

In answer to your other question: Kerry said if he's not the nominee, he'll do all he can to help defeat Bush. I imagine that would include this information. Remember, Bill Clinton and Janet Reno listened to George Bush and Dick Thornburgh and shut down the BCCI and Iran-Contra drug running investigations.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:16 PM
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14. In the early 90's, Pugs didn't control all the branches of govt.
Why not drop the "bombshell" then? The incidents in question were certainly much fresher in American's minds. This is why I don't believe this theory for a second. I hope I'm wrong.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:39 PM
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16. Like today, the BFEE was putting out criminal conspiracies so fast... so
... it was near impossible to keep track of them all, like today.

Besides, the press was already co-opted by Casey and the rest of the conservative toad swarm. Remember Nixon and how the press hated his ass? Well, it's a bit more complex than that, but the right-wing rich bastards vowed it would never happen again, so they bought the media properties. Consolidation leads us to today's Media Monopoly. GOOGLE Capital Cities-ABC and check out what I mean.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:45 PM
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17. Like I said, I hope I'm wrong. Any pressure on Chimp is good
pressure.

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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 04:51 PM
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12. BCCI and Iran Contra are HUGE notches on the belt
Kerry's a heavyweight compared to the rest.
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WyLoochka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:34 PM
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13. Waiting and
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 07:39 PM by mesquite
waiting and waiting for him to even begin to get the message out.

If he can't get the message out - he'd lose 11/02/2004.

He has shown no signs of being able to get the message out and I have been waiting 30 years to vote for him!!

if not NOW - when?

"LATER" doesn't cut it...

edit emphasis
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:44 PM
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15. The media uses Dean to keep the distraction going.
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 10:45 PM by blm
The corporate media gave Dean a press plane in June. They targeted their primary focus to be on Dean and put the others on ignore, or they bring them up only to discuss the horserace.

If Kerry won the primary, the media CAN'T shut him down or his spokespeople.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:58 PM
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20. Perhaps a press plane was in order for someone drawing
3-10,000 people every rally. Every day.

I know you don't think it's newsworthy. You think 50 people in an Iowa diner deserves a press plane.

Everything is not a conspiracy, blm.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:50 PM
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19. Me, too, mesquite. Me, too!
I can't figure out the guy's communications. First there was no message, then they came up with "John Kerry is the Real Deal." That sounds like something I posted on DU a year and a half ago, which I did. For a couple hundred grand a year, one would think we'd get the 21st century version of "The New Frontier." I know you know I know you know what I mean.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 05:43 PM
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24. Why is he waiting?
Why doesn't he do it now?
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 09:49 PM
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25. He wants to save his energy for the Kerry-Dean debate
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:27 AM
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26. That rather assumes there will be one, doesn't it?
:shrug:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:44 AM
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30. If Dean has the brains for the Presidency, he'd do it and prove it.
Otherwise, Dean is, at best, a second-tier candidate. The country's problems are so severe that we need the best President we can elect, Sen. John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 06:04 PM
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28. Kerry is calling on investigations on Rove, Ashcroft and the Leaker
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:41 AM
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29. Kerry should take the 9-11 case and run with it, too.
Thanks for the links, zulchzulu! John Kerry's got the foreign policy credentials and investigatory record of accomplishment to scare the living stuffing out of the BFEE. If he wants to differentiate his campaign, setting off the Bush Organized Crime Family's ties to bin Laden, BCCI, and 9-11 would be it. The only thing I can figure he hasn't is JK's advisors are telling him he'd get labeled a "conspiracy nut" by the Corporate McMedia. Funny, that's what Sneering Dick Cheney called John Kerry back in the early 90s, when all the BCCI stuff was coming out.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 03:49 AM
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31. No one really gave a shit about this stuff when it happened
They certainly aren't going to care now.Not that you're wrong,Kerry could beat them like a narc at a biker rally with this stuff...IF people cared.

Sadly,they dont.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 06:05 PM
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32. People would if they KNEW.
The only reason people don't know, is our captive press works 24/7 for the BFEE. Hey, maybe that's why the "mainstream" press always reports, despite the evidence:

Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK.
Kennedy would have gotten us into Vietnam just as deep as LBJ.
Nixon had a peace plan in 1968.
Nixon had peace with honor in 1972.
Watergate was about covering-up a wire-tapping gone bad.
Reagan and Poppy never dealt with the Iranians holding the hostages in 1980.
Expanding on Carter's policy, Reagan and Poppy never armed Saddam throughout the 1980s through BCCI and BNL.
Reagan and Poppy never sold arms to the Ayatollah and used profits to help the Contras import cocaine to the USA.
Poppy never profited from BCCI, Nugan Hand, or a bunch of other crooked financial institutions.
Selection 2000 would've ended up with Smirk winning.
Smirk never knew Kenny Boy Lay or even heard about ENRON.
Smirk had no idea Osama would fly airliners into the WTC and Pentagon.

There's a heck of a lot more, but I'm in the Holiday Spirit! These are enough to show the media whores are truly satanic. As for people who don't wake up and smell the sulfur, it may not be their fault they're stupid. They just might be ignorant. We can thank the corporate media, a wholly owned division of the BFEE.
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