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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:03 PM
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Kucinich on Saddam's Capture
http://www.kucinich.us/index.php


"With the capture of Saddam Hussein the Administration's stated goal of removing him from power has been accomplished. Now the focus must be on ending the occupation. International law must be followed and Saddam Hussein must be held accountable for his actions.

"The United States must seize this moment and end the occupation of Iraq. The United States must reach out to the world community with a new plan to stabilize Iraq, bring UN peacekeepers in, and bring US troops home."

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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:07 PM
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1. Right on!
That is exactly what we need to do. Get our weapons and troops out of Iraq.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:17 PM
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2. well put
Lets bring our troops home now!

http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:41 PM
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3. Go, Dennis.
Of course, the Bush administration will agree. Now that they've "got Saddam," Bush can appear with the "mission accomplished" banners and end the war. Right?

Right?
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:41 PM
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4. He sounds overjoyed.
He could at least congratulate the troops.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:41 PM
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5. He's stood against this illegal war
before anyone else. He's not a bandwagon jumper unlike some others who alter their policies and issues based on how the wind is blowing.
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 04:56 PM
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7. congratulating the troops
I saw Sharpton and Gephardt express congratulations to the troops and then go on to criticize Bush. Nearly everyone else seems to think that the US troops did a good job in difficult circumstances and we're better off with Saddam Hussein in custody.

Would the Kucinich camp want Saddam released?
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:49 PM
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9. released?
How do you get there?
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:00 PM
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10. his lack of enthusiasm for a good thing
Most people agree that Saddam Hussein was not a good person. I'm disappointed that DK can't at least say, "I'm glad the army caught Saddam Hussein, BUT..." It makes me wonder if he's glad Saddam was caught or if he thinks it's a travesty.

His statement sounds almost like a parody of what his opponents would say he says.
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:48 PM
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13. check out reactions from other candidates
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 07:36 PM
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14. No
Most of them are more pandering than DK's.

Kucinich is not going to help Bu$hCo in legitimizing this war.

We are glad Saddam has been captured and that is enough.

All I can do at these times is call on Jesus... for help in understanding a world that demands that its leaders should for some ungodly reason become PR people for an unjust war.

I am proud of Kucinich for sticking to what is important. Getting us the hell out of that country before any more soldiers (whose ass you apparently think it is more important that he should kiss) are KILLED.

All these pretend Christians or whatever your religion is... they should all be ashamed. Shame, shame, shame!!!!
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:29 PM
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15. "We are glad Saddam has been captured and that is enough."
:eyes:
I'm glad you're glad about it. You seem to be getting ahead of your candidate's rather neutral acknowledgement that "the Administration's stated goal of removing him from power has been accomplished".

Saddam's capture was a historic event and it was a good thing for Iraq. I wish DK could have said that.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 11:04 PM
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17. Ya wanna hear cheers for Saddam's capture?
Then read what Mark Morford has to say:

Big Bad America Finally Slaps Sad Ugly Mosquito
Well gosh golly it only took upwards 400+ dead U.S. soldiers (and
counting) and over 10,000 dead innocent Iraqi citizens (and counting)
and countless tens of thousands of dead Iraqi soldiers and about 150
billion in your tax moneys (and counting) and the screeching blood
sacrifice of both our national pride and our international status and
the gutting of our foreign policy, and he was of course no threat to
America whatsoever and never had much of a military force to begin with and if he ever had any WMD he destroyed them over a decade ago, and we brutally invaded his unhappy nation and laid waste to it for absolutely no justifiable reason whatsoever, but finally Saddam Hussein has been captured alive, yay yay go team. Shortly after soldiers pulled an aged, bearded Saddam from a makeshift cellar, Defense Secretary Donald "black souled" Rumsfeld was delivering the news of the prized capture to Bush, who stopped coloring in his favorite book and looked up all startled and let out the cutest happy little gurgle. The anticlimatic end to a nine-month search for the dictator instantly changed the politics of Iraq back in America, where huge amounts of insanely gullible citizens
instantly upgraded their view of BushCo in the polls, because this is
how really quite sad and stupid many have become and this is how
useless polls are, that Saddam's capture suddenly means BushCo is some
sort of decent leader and that the capture somehow negates, you know, a vile and budget-reaming and oil-sucking and U.N.-violating and utterly demeaning war no one wanted. Yay. Go team.

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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:06 AM
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18. Cheers!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/photo_gallery/3318237.stm

No, Saddam's capture does not solve all the problems, but an oppressed nation is more free and a criminal is going to be brought to justice.

The Kucinich statement missed the boat on this event. Check out the statement on the DU homepage. That's better than DK's, too.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 04:56 PM
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20. while everyone is pandering to the press
Edited on Thu Dec-18-03 04:57 PM by Desertrose
and making statements that are basically sound bytes....Kucinich actually works to bring the troops home.
He also works to try to get benefits and healthcare & help for all the soldiers who have returned home and who are struggling financially....
Does this sound like someone who doesn't care?

Why must he speak words to satisfy what you feel should be said?? To simply say words that are meaningless?

And seriously...you think that because Saddam has been "captured" that Iraq is less oppressed??That it is a free country now?? It is an occupied country...and they may well see the US as the ones doing the occupying and oppressing.....
Get a clue my friend....


Peace
DR
edit-missing word
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:47 PM
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8. Maybe he's more concerned about saving their lives.
Give me a break.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:41 PM
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11. I doubt they care about congratulations
more likely they just want to come home.
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:38 PM
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16. Of course they want to come home, but...
Check out the news from the 4th Infantry Division:

http://www.4thinfantry.org/news.html

Page down to the "What Our Families Are Hearing" section. They seem very happy about stopping a tyrant.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 05:32 AM
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19. That's not why they were there
They were supposed to be protecting the US from WMD that Bushco said they had.

DK is right. With Saddam's capture, one more excuse for doing the inexcusable evaporates.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 03:18 PM
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6. Way to call Bush on the carpet - Bush must withdraw, Halliburton out too
Bush got away with the first set of lies - WMD.

Now his second set of lies has just been called - getting rid of Saddam.

Get out of Iraq, George.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:41 PM
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12. I'm on a few DK mailing lists,
and I just got the following from one:



"Joblessness is a weapon of mass destruction. Poverty is a weapon of mass destruction. Hopelessness is a weapon of mass destruction. Let's bring back hope in America."

--Dennis J. Kucinich, the only presidential candidate who will lead us in a new and better direction. http://www.kucinich.us



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