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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 07:49 PM
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Airline pilots are cheap bastards.
I know.
I wuz one.
:-)

PILOTS ARE CHEAP! (first person story by some unnamed pilot)

When my company hired me, one of the first things I noticed about many of my fellow pilots was that they were cheap bastards. I consider this to be a compliment to my fellow aviators.

Hotels offer a plethora of freebies that end up in the homes of pilots. There are soaps, shampoos, lotions, sewing kits, amenity kits, and other things of strategic value. On the nightstands in hotel rooms, there usually is a pad of stationary and a cheap pen. The stationary pads are commonly found in the cockpits, on the built in clipboards, but the pens are too valuable to leave behind. If there are free newspapers at the front desk, we are certain to take one. At some of the better hotels you can find a newspaper and a Wall Street Journal at the same time, major score.

There is the story of the pilot who finally sends his first child off to college. The young adult returns for the holidays and proceeds to tell the parents everything they have learned. The parents are told many things, but their child was most impressed by learning that most bars of soap are actually very big and shampoo comes in bottles that are bigger than their thumb. Being raised on hotel toiletries brought home by the student's father, the young person was ignorant to this important part of life, only because the father, a pilot, was a cheap bastard.

Discounts and deals abound in the pilot world. Almost every airport eatery and hotel restaurant offers a percentage off of whatever we purchase to eat. There are coupons for free drinks or buffets. I have seen 50% off in some places, which none of us can pass up. I was at a coffee shop in a layover hotel recently, getting ready to head to the airport. The young woman working the counter got me my coffee and handed me two big chocolate chip cookies for free. Of course I shyly refused, but she insisted that I take the cookies. "You never know when you might get hungry", She said. I was trying to smile and not drool at the same time. This treatment is not unusual. I was walking through the Cincinnati airport once, when a worker at the Mrs. Fields Cookies counter waved me over. "You can have all the left over cookies for five dollars", the counter person said. I walked away with three bags of cookies and boasted about my good deal for weeks after. I had realized that the cookies kiosk was closing and instead of throwing the cookies away, they would offer them all at a price no pilot could refuse. I scored those bags of cookies several times but got so sick of them, that I eventually refused the good deal. The same thing happened in Buffalo New York one night. We were doing a turn around, so we were there for about an hour. I ran down to the cafeteria and ordered some wings. The man working the counter asked if I wanted extra wings. I said, "Sure, sounds good". He brought out three large to go boxes of wings, mild, medium, and hot. We stuffed ourselves. When ordering a meal where the food is scooped up in a predetermined amount, the generous workers dishing out the food usually add a partial scoop more, smiling at us while they do it. I have never seen a pilot tell them to take it back.

There is a good chain of communication amongst pilots, allowing us to share the free things or good deals in our layover cities. A fellow pilot told me about free coffee at the hotel coffee shop in Boston . He said, "You have to be in uniform to get the free coffee". I mentioned this to my copilot the evening we arrived at that hotel. The next morning I was in the lobby of the hotel studying the subway map. We had the entire day off and I was interested in visiting a museum. I was surprised to see the copilot walk by in his uniform, seven hours before we were to be picked up. He marched over to the coffee shop and picked up a free cup of coffee, saving himself about $2.50. "You make me proud", I said. He smiled, held up the free cup of Joe in a salute, and then proceeded to pick up a newspaper someone left on a chair. He went back to his room, drank free coffee and read a free paper. It doesn't get much better than that.

I worked the Hawaiian operation for several years. Our layover hotel was at a gargantuan hotel complex with three, forty story towers. Through the grapevine, I had found out that the rooftop of every tower had a hot tub on it with an ice chest of soda next to it. Access to the rooftop was limited to the expensive business rooms on the upper floors. This was by no means a deterrent to us pilots. I discovered that if I took the elevator as high as I could go without using a room key, I could then take the stairwell up the remaining floors, to the rooftop. I was not interested in the hot tub, but drinking a free soda and taking in the incredible view from forty stories up, was great. I spent many hours up there over those years and never saw another person on that roof. On my way down one day I decided to take the elevator from the highest floor. As I walked towards the elevator I saw a door open to what looked like a lounge. I walked into the room and realized this was a suite converted into the business club lounge.

The suite was gorgeous, fronting the ocean, filled with food, drinks, newspapers, and a self-serve bar. The best part of this situation was realizing that there were no hotel employees in the room. I was alone with platters of food, free drinks, and 24 hours off. I settled in like I owned the joint. I left two hours later, only when another hotel guest entered the room. I went back many times, but one day, when I walked in, I saw a woman sitting behind a desk. "Good afternoon sir, can I assist you?" she said. I wanted to say, "Yeah, can you just go away from this good deal I have?" I remained calm and said, "I am trying to find my boss, and I was told to meet him here." "Oh, no problem, what is his name, I can look him up and contact him." she said. I was digging myself into a hole. I politely refused her help and left quickly. I could tell she was eyeing me suspiciously. When I got to the elevators, I turned around to smile at her. Next to every elevator was a big bowl of tropical fruit and a stack of newspapers. In an act of defiance, I picked up a papaya, a mango, and a Wall Street Journal while smiling. The elevator arrived quickly and I left. I called the front desk and asked when the business lounge was staffed. I was told that at 4:30 every afternoon, the business lounge was staffed. I had my answer. From then on I made sure I never spent time in that room after 3:00.

I spread the word about the rooftop and lounge to my fellow pilots. One of my fellow pilots brought his wife with him on a trip to Honolulu . He convinced the wife to go to the rooftop with him and sit in the hot tub. It was a beautiful night and they ended up having sex, then more sex, then running around the rooftop naked. Just as they were getting back to putting their clothes on, a security team came out onto the roof. Both parties were surprised as hell to see each other. The pilot apologized to the security team as he was putting his clothes on, grabbed a couple of free sodas and left with his humiliated and unhappy wife.

There was a time when most airlines served good food, especially in first class. I am allowed to sit in first class when I travel off duty. The pass system at my company allows me to travel unlimited times a year. Some years ago a pilot told me that over the weekend he took his wife and children on a flight that was a round trip flight to another city. He flew out on the first leg enjoying a nice lunch and free drinks in first class. They were on the ground for an hour before the same aircraft with the pilot and his family still on it, returned to its point of origin. He and his family enjoyed a first class dinner on the way back, the children enjoying a few ice cream sundaes. That was how they spent their day and evening, enjoying free food, drinks, desserts, and movies. The monthly food bills were less than normal because the pilot was uncanny in his ability to be a cheap bastard.

Not that long ago I was riding to a hotel for a layover. Across the street from my hotel I saw a sign on the marquis of another hotel advertising free wireless Internet. My monthly schedule requests were due the next day and I needed Internet access to send my requests in. Instead of paying for the service in my hotel, I walked across the street that next morning to use the free Internet at the other hotel. I walked past the lobby and sat in a public area near a fireplace that had couches and coffee tables. As I was booting up my computer I saw a large urn of coffee across the room. "What the heck" I thought, it's just a cup of coffee. I got up and fixed myself a large cup of coffee, just the way I like it. I was working on my computer with a solid Internet connection, drinking my coffee, when a hotel employee approached me. "Sir, the breakfast buffet is now open, would you like me to show you what we have this morning?" she said. Without the slightest hesitation, I said, "Why that would be great, thank you." I proceeded to make myself a waffle, gather a plate of eggs and bacon, a glass of juice, and a container of strawberry banana yogurt. I was still there three hours later when they closed down the breakfast area. I was asked if I would like anything else, so I asked if I could take a snack to go. I have shared this nugget with many of the pilots I fly with and they too have enjoyed a scrumptious morning buffet, across the street.

This story could go on and on as there are endless examples of pilots being cheap bastards, but there is one last example I would like to share with you.

About 16 years ago, I was an engineer on the Boeing 727. The captain brought a bag onboard at the beginning of our trip. He handed me the paper bag and told me to put it in a safe place. When we got to our destination that night, he asked me for the bag. During our four-day trip, each day would start out the same, he would hand me the bag, I would put it out of harms way, and he would ask for it at the end of the day. On the last day he handed as he handed me the bag, I heard the clinking of glass. "Be careful with that," he said. I asked him what was in the bag. He told me there were about ten light bulbs in the bag. I asked him why he carried all of these light bulbs around. He said to me, "I take the burned out light bulbs from home and exchange them with the working light bulbs in our hotel rooms." I was at a loss for words, but I remember thinking that this guy is one seriously cheap bastard.

OK Here's a true story I've told some of you but not all. I flew with a guy that turned in his dirty uniform shirts, this was before 9/11, to a charity. He would come back a few days later when they were hanging on a rack & buy them back for .50-.75 cents. He said it was cheaper than sending them to the laundry & he'd get credit for a Tax deduction for his charitable donation.
:-)





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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 08:28 PM
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1. Well, there's nothing wrong with being frugal.
And knowing that the pilot salaries on some of these regional airlines are only in the low 20's, I say let them have all the discounts they can find.

:hi: trof! Long time, no see.
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 08:34 PM
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2. And I just thought that I was cheap. Many of those things
I would never conceive of doing. And even now knowing these "cost-saving techniques", I still couldn't bring myself to do them.

All I can say is wow.

:wow:
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 08:51 PM
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3. Funny.
My guy travels for a living, and, I kid you not, we have 20 Ziploc bags full of soaps, shampoos, etc. I have good intentions of bagging them up and giving them to the homeless, I just haven't gotten to it. He doesn't take the pads and pens though.

My Dad worked for AA for 40+ years. Yep, we sat in FC and ate 2 sundaes. He sat in FC, while the plane was on the ground, and ate shrimp cocktails.

We got great discounts at hotels too.

And he wasn't even a pilot.

Hey, if you want some bennies, find a job with them. :-)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 09:11 PM
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4. LOL TROF
my airline pilot honey sent me a bouquet for Valentine's day - the vase is made out of SIX HERSHEY CANDY BARS and the "flowers" are 50 CANDY BARS ON STICKS!!

Gawd I am in HOG HEAVEN!!! F*** I AM SUCH A CHEAP DATE. :D
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 09:09 PM
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5. My airline pilot hubby is not like this AT ALL
But he knows guys like this.

No small shampoos, lotions, etc.

He's a freight/cargo pilot, so... is served a box "crew meal." No extras. No freebies. No discounts.

He pays his way -- and he's a great tipper for those cab rides, etc., etc.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 09:41 PM
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6. ha ha ha!
Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 09:42 PM by tigereye
My dad would simply call you guys smart and frugal! :rofl: Sounds like no harm done. (Or at the worst advantageous.)
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:24 PM
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7. Great stories! Thanks for sharing!
I love reading cheap bastard tips.

:thumbsup:
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 10:08 AM
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8. Cheap bastardism is a way of life in this business, I think
Back in the day, Captains actually made pretty good money. I can still remember watching them scour the cabin for used newspapers after flights.

At my airline, until 1990, the Captain would tip the hotel van and limo driver for the entire crew, then get reimbursed by the company. The monthly trip bidding packages included a "tip sheet" that listed the amount the company would reimburse by city and hotel. Back then, 50 cents per person was a typical reimbursement for a short ride. I remember seeing Captains of a 3 man crew give the driver 2 one dollar bills and ask for change! Tip reimbursement was gone by the time I made Captain, so each crew member is responsible for their own tips. If I have a new hire pilot on the crew, I always cover his/her tip (first year wages in this business really suck).

There is one hotel chain we use in some cities that puts a fairly small (but bigger than travel size) tube of toothpaste in the bathroom. I am about to change crew bases, so I was going through a bag I keep in the crew commuter room the other day. There were 53 of those tubes of toothpaste in there! I may never have to buy toothpaste for work again!

To the cheap pilot's credit, there is a large cardboard box in the crew room at one of our bases. The crewmembers toss the hotel toiletries they've collected in there, then they go to a local battered women's shelter.

Maybe it's just the frequent traveling that brings out the frugality. My Dad was a traveling salesman, and was on the road almost as much as I am now. He often brought home hotel shampoos. My Mom would mix them and put them in a large shampoo bottle in the shower. PSA for anyone reading this. Do NOT use this cost saving technique!!! While mixing shampoos may save you a little money in the short term, it will cause your hair to start turning gray in the future. Trust me.

I hadn't thought about giving the dirty shirts to charity. Hmmmmmm.......

Thanks for the great stories!

:hi:

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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 08:02 PM
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11. THAT's why I'm gray??
I had no idea...

:P


:hi:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 01:16 PM
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9. the 727 was one of my favorites as a kid
long live the tri-jets!!
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 10:39 PM
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12. I loved that airplane
Was lucky enough to serve as crew in every seat on it at one time or another.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 07:43 PM
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10. That is food for thought
Dress up like a pilot, carry a pilot-like suitcase into the airport...
On second thought TSA might have an issue with that....
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 11:05 PM
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13. When I found out how little pilots are paid I swore off air travel forever.
It's insane to work such long hours for so little reward. I'd be cheap, too.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:07 AM
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14. hey trof
I make my pilot honey save all the small soaps, shampoos, conditioners and lotions and they get sent to troops in Afghanistan and Iraq :D
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TuxedoKat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:49 AM
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15. These are great stories
I have a few good memories of freebies while working as a flight attendant but nothing like what you scored! I was only a FA for about seven months though and it was the best and easiest job I ever had. Working for various airlines were the happiest times of my life, so much so that I'm going to get another job with one if I can. Thanks for sharing!
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:55 PM
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16. I was on a layover in OKC, eating the free breakfast at the motel
that was provided to guests, I watched five air crew members walk across the street from their motel, into the one I was staying, crossed the lobby into the little breakfast nook and proceeded to eat everything that wasn't nailed down.


I thought, there's some brass.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 04:14 PM
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17. When I was a kid, my best friends dad was a pilot for TWA.
I loved airliners as a kid, and really wanted to be a pilot for a while. I still remember camping with my friends family once, and his dad asked us what we wanted to be when we grew up. I replied, "A rich airline pilot, like you, it looks like a fun job." When he finally stopped laughing a few minutes later, he looked at me and said, "If you want to be rich, kiddo, you'd better pick a different job."

I didn't get it at the time, but I was still young enough to assume that airline pilots, like cops and firefighters, were all good people who made "lots of money". Reality was still a few years away.
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