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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 10:33 AM
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Three movies that changed the way movies are made (IMHO) and how we view them
The Wizard of Oz



Star Wars



The Matrix

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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:45 AM
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1. Memento nt
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lunamagica Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 04:09 PM
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2. A Hard Day's Night n/t
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 04:18 PM
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3. The Jazz Singer, Fantasia, 2001 a Space Odyssey
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 04:48 PM
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4. My dear DainBramaged!
Those are great choices...

I would also add "Schindler's List" and maybe the Godfather films.

:hi:
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 05:25 PM
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5. If you're specifically including changes in making AND viewing...
then you're missing one from your list:

Gone With The Wind.

Personally I think the plot is crap, but you have to admit that it had a big impact.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 05:43 PM
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6. Porky's (seriously).
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deucemagnet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 05:56 PM
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7. Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. n/t
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 06:37 PM
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8. Star Trek 90210 (2009)
:yoiks:

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 06:38 PM
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9. You're definitely right about Oz,
but the other two were sold for their effects. Not the content. Well, by 1977 and certainly by 1999, their respective plots needn't have been so banal...
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 07:40 PM
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10. Content doesn't make movies memorable to the people who make movies
the three movies I listed were ground breakers, and they changed the way movies were made for a full generation after they were released. The Matrix still influences movies and how they are made. granted, 2001 (which I saw about 6 times in various stages of blitzdom) did not affect the way movies were made like the first star Wars or Wizard of Oz did.

And when you ask any three people what movie influenced them the most, I am POSITIVE these three movies come to the young before any others, except possibly Gone With the Wind, Jaws, and Titanic. After that it's hard to put a finger on anything else.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:06 PM
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22. It's an interesting premise...
I want to take it one step further because I can. Bookmarking this for later.

My roommate is a 2nd 2nd for a series on USA, Assistant Produced an Oscar nominee last year and has made several major motion pictures over the past 3 years in a number of production roles ranging from PA to Line Producer. I want to ask him what his three are and have him ask others he works with to see what that list looks like. As a student studying screenwriting, my three are completely different because imagery is less important to me than content that revolutionizes how a story is told and where it can be taken.

In this way, I think we generate a far more interesting list-of-lists in that we not only get a measure of the important works of cinema, but also a comparative measure of the criterion used to assess that question from people who approach the question from differing places: As a viewer, as a writer, as a director, as a DP and as a producer (someone once said that producing is the creation of content with an eye towards profitability rather than content...in my roommate's case, that is spot-on.)

For me:

1.) M (1931)
2.) Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain (2001) (English title: Amélie)
3.) Koroshiya 1 (2001) (English title: Ichi The Killer)

honorable mention to Mou gaan dou (2002) (English Title: Infernal Affairs...was remade domestically by Martin Scorsese as The Departed)
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 07:53 PM
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11. Forbidden Planet
and

Jason and the Argonauts

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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 08:03 PM
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12. Alien
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:43 PM
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24. Truly. Most scary monster movies weren't so scary in comparison.
Also, Blade Runner for the incredible pre-production/sets/overall look, and Koyaanisquatsi for reminding us that it is truly a visual medium, and that the most significant messages may indeed be carried merely with music and images.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 09:22 PM
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13. The Great Train Robbery
It was probably the most influential film ever made.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:53 PM
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14. "Dirty Harry" The director shot the film in a grainy, almost TV look,
abandoned the "hollywood" production look. It's still almost irritating to see it. Don Siegal directed the first - best- Harry.

mark
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:19 AM
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15. Six: The Jazz Singer, Citizen Kane, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Clockwork Orange,
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 10:37 AM by Auggie
Jurassic Park, Toy Story

(on edit: added the The Jazz Singer
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:43 AM
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16. I'm probably one of about 10 people who have never seen The Matrix
And, you know, I don't know that I have any interest to.
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gbate Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:00 AM
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17. Rope.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:06 AM
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18. "Citizen Kane" is the obvious example.
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 11:07 AM by gmoney
Welles and his cinematographer Gregg Toland really challenged the standard rules, largely because Welles had no experience in movies, so didn't know what the rules really were. Toland was resourceful enough to make them happen and really changed the way films looked and unfolded. Granted, a lot of what Welles did was being done in other countries where there was a more advanced "experimental" film movement, mainly Germany, but Welles actually made it serve the story, and not just be an exercise in gratuitous oddity.

And while it's hard to applaud DW Griffith's "Birth of a Nation" since the story is a giant racist glorification of the KKK, technically it was highly advanced film-making that changed movies from "filmed stage plays" to the more current methods of presenting a story.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:49 AM
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20. i'm surprised it took 18 posts to mention Citizen Kane
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:42 AM
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19. Rashomon
The way it told the story from multiple conflicting viewpoints, without treating any of them as objective truth: I believe this made many subsequent film-makers look at the camera viewpoint in a fresh way.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:54 AM
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21. The French Connection
which not only changed cop-buddy movies, it changed cop shows for decades to come...

and what about Easy Rider and the subsequent flood of nihilist films that followed in the 70s?
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:29 PM
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23. If you liked this topic, you might enjoy Mark Harris' book
about the year the movies really changed: "Pictures at the Revolution: Five Pictures and the Birth of the New Hollywood"

Amazing book.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/17/books/review/Shepard-t.html

"...focuses on the nominees for the Academy Award for best picture of 1967: “Bonnie and Clyde,” “The Graduate,” “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner,” “In the Heat of the Night” (the eventual winner) and “Doctor Dolittle.” Yes, you read that last title correctly. For Harris, a columnist at Entertainment Weekly, that array is not just a historical “collage of the American psyche” but also well beyond diverse, “almost self-contradictory”; a movie like “The Graduate” was seemingly designed to demolish the values on display in “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner.” The generational divide could not have been starker, and the central issue was what an American movie was supposed to be."
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