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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:25 PM
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L O S T
After Obama
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:28 PM
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1. 100th episode, yes?
After last week's boring recap, I am really ready for my fix.

:hi:
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:00 PM
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2. KICK
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:04 PM
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3. oooh, a Star Trek movie sneak peek too!
Looks good
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:01 PM
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4. DANIEL!!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:03 PM
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5. shit!
she knew
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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:08 PM
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8. She sure did.
x(
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:03 PM
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6. GRRRRRRRR!!!!
:grr:

I HATE the ending.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:20 PM
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11. There is a bit of hope

in that the rule on the island of the dead not staying dead may apply in this case

If not, I'm with you in hating the ending.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 10:56 PM
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21. Well if I get my way...
Then somehow Daniel will end up being Jacob. He's creepy enough to be Jacob, but I'm not exactly sure how that would work at this point. :D
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:07 PM
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7. I need a god damn manual to follow this
And why Daniel?????
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:22 PM
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13. We've talked about it before
and I think that guy that plays Daniel, Jeremy Davies, is one of the best actors on tv now. A solid Hollywood resume prior to this gig. So vulnerable, neurotic, twitchy. If this is indeed it, I hate to see him go. Some of those scenes tonight (plane on tv/Widmore; talking to the young Charlotte; plus his exposition duties): whew!
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:27 PM
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15. Twitchy was Sawyer's name for him tonight
And yeah, he is an amazing actor.
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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:34 PM
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16. He was in Twister in 96. He does not age at all.
Edited on Wed Apr-29-09 09:35 PM by FedUpWithIt All
:wow:
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:13 PM
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9. Holy crap!
I guess it shouldn't have been a surprise that the 100th episode went out with a bang. I don't think young Eloise knew Daniel was her son. She looked geniunely shocked when he told her. The episode did reveal a lot, that the numbers ARE legit, Daniel is Widmore's son. Still confused as to whether they can actually change the past. This was one major mind fuck tonight.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:16 PM
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10. I'm totally LOST now
I can't even think about what happened. And I thought next week was the last week of the season. I guess not.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:22 PM
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12. There is supposed to be one more, a two hour ending

with a pre one hour summarization. So three hours next week.

Or so I've read.

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:25 PM
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14. Just checked TV guide
May 13 is the final 2 hour episode
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:47 PM
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17. "your mother is an Other?"
favorite line. Great episode, although having missed a few I was kinda.... lost. (groan)
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 10:11 PM
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18. Farraday was "The Variable"-he was created to stop the release of energy
Widmore and Hawkings had him and trained him for the purpose of stopping the release of energy that created the Swan that failed and created the planecrash.

They knew that the planecrash would bring Locke into the picture and that he would end up in control of The Others

As Farraday was explaining how he Jack and Kate were the Variables (name of the episode) he didn't realize that HE was the variable and that was his purpose in life.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 10:27 PM
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19. But if there is no " incident"

then Desmond would not have been shipwrecked on the island. Desmond's turning of the key radiated him which made him time travel and go back in time to give Farraday the formula which enabled time travel. Then Farraday couldn't time travel back to stop the incident.

Talk about circles within circles.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 11:55 PM
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23. Jack and Kate are not going to go for this
If there is no plane accident, they would never meet, never would have shared that experience on the island, Kate would continue flying with handcuffs to face a murder charge and Jack would continue to be bitter about his father, his ex wife, his life.

And, apparently, since Farraday was shot, whether or not he survives, the plans are gone.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 05:43 AM
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24. If there was no incident they wouldn't have needed any to travel back in time
and Desmond would have never been able to fail at hitting the button because the Swan would have never existed.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 07:07 AM
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29. But the only way there would be no incident

is if Farraday goes back in time to stop it. Without time travel, the incident happened which leads to the discovery of time travel.

A chicken and the egg scenario.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 07:37 AM
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30. It's more like a spiral
A hypnotic spiral.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 10:52 PM
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20. I think the Dharma recruitment photo is what triggered his Variable theory
Daniel was sold on the constant theory until he saw the photo of Jack, Kate, and Hurley in the Dharma recruitment photo.

What KILLS me is that Eloise seemed to raise Daniel to go to the island knowing that she would shoot him. If this is the case, wouldn't it have made sense to write something in his notebook that says "No matter what, I will always love you but PROMISE to never hold a gun while searching for me"?? Really. How hard is that?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 05:45 AM
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25. I think the photo only fulfilled the need for Farraday to do what was in the journal
Perhaps Eloise shooting Farraday was a variable that THEY hadn't counted on.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:24 AM
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31. perhaps by killing Faraday, the variable is removed?
it stops the circle of events and creates a straight flow of time?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 11:10 PM
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22. I really like Farraday
Maybe my favorite character, the actor is awesome. I tell you what he sure came from what looks like a helluvan evil union. His own mom, that is cold. :)
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Believing Is Art Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 06:31 AM
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26. So the H-bomb is buried under the shadow of the statue?
Edited on Thu Apr-30-09 06:32 AM by Believing Is Art
Is there a volcano under the Swan? Will Jack, Kate, Hurley, Faraday's body, Sawyer, Juliet and Miles be tied to the Swan when the Hostiles drop the H-bomb?

Should I invest in an e-meter?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 06:35 AM
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27. Hmmm the shadow of the statue
Good point

I would guess that the Egyptian underground shrine (where Ben confronted the smoke monster) that Jack swims to (as seen in the teaser for next week) IS in the shadow of the statue

:shrug:
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Believing Is Art Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 06:41 AM
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28. I think you're spot on there
I remember the question being asked "what is buried below the shadow of the statue" and then this week Faraday brought the H-bomb back up and how he said to bury it.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:27 AM
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32. it's self evident that Faraday's plan succeeds...
That's why the losties in the future find an island without the Dharma and as far as we know, no others. A future that is changed because the bomb was detonated.

but then again a 50 megaton bomb pretty much would obliterate the island.

baaaa, I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

:banghead: I'm so confused.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 12:54 PM
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33. I'm confused about Daniel's memory loss. He was persuaded to go
to the island to be cured, but he seemed pretty sharp the first time we saw him on the island.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 01:01 PM
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34. I don't think it is much of memory loss as total confusion
Remember when Desmond first went to find him, in Oxford, where no one wanted to hear his name. He was experimenting with time travel, on the rabbit, supposedly on himself, and then on his assistant/girlfriend where it really went bad.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 01:23 PM
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35. Locke was up and walking as soon as he got to the island
Plus Faraday had his book with him.

I keep thinking back to the scene where we see the page in that book with "If anything goes wrong, Desmond Hume will be my constant" on it. If whatever happened, happened, then nothing could have gone wrong, which is why Faraday had to be shot by Eloise. Unless you're Faraday, which if you're being shot by your mother after she made you go to the island so that she could shoot you 30 years before you got to the island even though you are on the island not only 30 years ago in your present time but were also on the island 50 years ago with her still pointing a gun at you, then everything did go wrong for you somewhere.

When it's all done, hopefully we'll be able to define the word "wrong" a little better.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 01:27 PM
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36. I need a nap after that
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 02:45 PM
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37. Okay new theory...
Dr. Candle and Radsinsky go back to the swan after the shoot out with Jack, Kate and Faraday. They think the others want to get to the Swan and destroy it. They go there, While their, some workman drills through the "core" and sets off the incident.

in the aftermath, we find pretty much everyone survived, except, radsinsky's brains are scrambled (later on he blows his brains out in the Swan, thus explaining Inmans comment regarding the red smudge on the ceiling to Desmond), Dr. Candles arm is missing, Jack and rest of the losties experience time flashes and a bit of precognition much like Desmond did after he failed to type in the numbers and the Swam went kablooie.

Faraday is still a live, but he wakes either just before the incident or just after. If it's just before, he struggles to try and stop the incident from happening or more likely, after; where he states, "oh no, everything is back were it was! Nothing has changed!". Faraday will be healed. his brain got healed, much like Locke was able to walk and survived the gunshot via Ben. Faraday is a child of the others, he's special, he will live.

also Siyd will die. He's a tragic figure and is basically without a "country" right now. And the last thing I see him doing is hooking up with the others, but I could be wrong.

That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
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