I admit it, I get jealous of the guys

[m-jean03]

It is so much more practical to be a guy. "Come as you are" and don't feel ashamed of the hair on your body. Women, we are supposed to be, I don't know, refinement in a coarse world, a safe haven in which to rest, but it takes so much damn work, looking good and smelling good and having smooth skin all the time. Who invented the goddamn razor for women and indoctrinated society into believing we looked bestial without baby-smooth legs and armpits anyway? You know, if I hadn't shaved in the 6th grade I would have soft, blond FUZZ on my legs and no one would notice it. Now my legs look like Jamie Farr's arms if I don't shave, and I don't want them to!

Well, that's my rant. Maybe I'll take a break for a while, become a transvestite!Although my beautiful tresses and curvy body give me away; I look lousy with short hair, I tried it once...

[Jack_Dawson]

1. Shaving is good, Waxing is better

Don't let anyone tell you different.

Signed,

A guy

[m-jean03]

Yeah, you try it!

And tell me if you don't feel like a slave to vanity and culture!

And sadly, those are shackles I don't think I'll be throwing off anytime soon...

[Jack_Dawson]

5. Have some wine and vicodin before you go

You'll do just fine...and you'll be very desirable.

:-)

:toast:

:beer:

10. goes to show

that Democrats can be just as sexist as Republicans and freepers, doesn't it?
At least judging from how folk are responding to you from the get go.

[m-jean03]

13. People are very strongly opinionated about "sexual attractiveness"

They don't feel their attitudes along these lines have anything to do with sexism...

Men like women to look a certain way, and that's that... They assume, because (heterosexual) women want men to like them, that there is nothing wrong with expressing these desires... I understand it, to a certain extent. I just wish more people would question it a bit. This whole leg shaving thing was only invented a century ago. What bugs me is how most women are so HORRIFIED of something that is part of their bodies, that is perfectly natural. Guys just accept every damn part of themself, in my experience. Fat, hair, it's all him. They are raised to own themselves, not hate themselves.

16. Although on the other side

there hasn't been a president elected who had a beard in a long time and look at all the grief Al Gore got when he grew his beard.
That isn't quite the same, but has some similarities.

[KG]

2. the best part about being a guy is standing up to pee.

no doubt. :)

[bif]

21. The world is our toilet!

A huge (no pun intended) plus.

[Yavin4]

3. Men Have A Beauty Standard As Well

We have to be rich as Trump and look like Brad Pitt.

[dorktv]

20. Gag! I like Jack Black and am dating a guy who looks like him.

He also is not rich. Money is not everything...good sex is.

[Blue-Jay]

4. In addition to all that you mentioned,

We can pee ANYWHERE!

Muaaahahahahahaha!

I'm peeing right now, as a matter of fact.

[m-jean03]

8. Now that's something to be proud of...

:eyes: I fear for the next user of your keyboard.

[Blue-Jay]

9. or my office chair.

:D

[m-jean03]

45. Thanks for the laughs

You lighten this place up.

[slinkerwink]

6. Men get higher pay, easier access to jobs, and their reproductive

rights are covered under every health insurance policy. Men have it a lot better than women do, and it's sad that some of them don't know it when they complain about how oppressive women are.

[CanuckAmok]

15. Yeah, you're oppressed alright...now get back to that sweatshop!

Those conterfeit Nikes have to be on the streets of London by Friday!

[LynneSin]

18. Yes - their reproductive rights to have a hard-on

while us poor women have to carry the fruits of their hard-on!!

[Colin Ex]

39. Same old flamewar, take three.

ReadysetGO!

[CTLawGuy]

47. on the other hand

Men have to pay more in car insurance simply because they are men. (what would happen if women were higher risks than men? I wonder whether whites or african americans are higher risks?)

Men are at a disadvantage in child custody cases.

Men are expected by society to go out and earn a living for their families, they do not have the option of staying home with children.

men are executed at a highly disproportional rate.

[radwriter0555]

7. Laser hair removal is HEAVEN for ladies with a predilection for

a bit of fuzziness.

I have several friends who've had their armpits done and they LOVE it.

Figure about $400 or so... to never ever have fuzzy leggies again.

[m-jean03]

12. Or I could spend $400 on

...groceries for 3-4 months.
...a plane ticket to South America.

or most likely scenario...
...repaying student loans...

And by the way, ALL women have "fuzziness" and are usually downright hairy beasts, without all the "perks" of civilization to rid themselves of their body hair. Anyone who tells you different is lying through her teeth.

[radwriter0555]

25. Sadly, I can brag on being relatively hairless.. as a natural blonde of

german/french origins, I have little to no hair on most body parts.. Last November the ambulance drivers who had to cut my trouser leg off were kind enough to comment on my non-hairy legs, in a moment of humor, bless their hearts.

We won't however, discuss that ONE hair on the corner of my lip that is becoming a pesky nuisance. Tweezers are my friend...

The $400 is WORTH IT to not have to constantly "do the math" on whether to bare one's legs or lil pits or not.

[jmowreader]

49. You could amortize it out

If you value your time at $10 an hour (used to make the numbers easier), and it takes 20 minutes to shave your legs, 120 shaves (not counting supplies) and you've paid back the laser hair removal thing. Problem with laser hair removal is, you need the $400 the day you get it done.

[trotsky]

11. Common misconception.

Shaving or pulling hair does NOT mean it will grow back thicker, coarser, or darker.

http://www.snopes.com/spoons/oldwives/hairgrow.asp

(Hey, I can sympathize, though. I see the stuff my wife has to go through and I am thankful!)

[BigMcLargehuge]

14. as long as your legs don't look like Robin William's back

you're doing fine.

[m-jean03]

44. Too funny!

Mine kinda look like Jamie Farr's arms, when he wears short sleeve dresses in MASH. An Arab's arms, that's my legs for ya.

[LynneSin]

17. No way I'd be a man - I don't want a penis for a brain

if you know what I mean!!

[CanuckAmok]

24. At least your penis couldn't type sexist posts...

;) :hi:

[radwriter0555]

26. Being a man would suck. When do they have time to do ANYTHING what with

thinking about sex every 8 seconds?

And bless their hearts for that.

No, really.

[jmowreader]

50. We have two brains!

You know, like a brontosaurus.

We have the one in our big head, that rational men make their decisions with.

And we have the one in our little head, which is the one my former employer used to make hiring decisions with. (He didn't have sex with any of them because they wouldn't let him, but we had a fairly regular stream of women whose IQ was smaller than their bra size winding up on the payroll.)

[CanuckAmok]

19. Men have a 'beauty standard' as well...

Have a peek at "The Adonis Complex" by Harrison Pope and Katharine Phillips and Roberto Olivardia.

This culture is relentless in its messages to both sexes that your physical best isn't good enough and never will be.

Body-image related ilness and depression isn't restricted exclusively to women.

[catzies]

40. That's true, because we're not people to them, just target markets

If one is happy with one's body one doesn't buy as many products to turn oneself into something one is not.

"your physical best isn't good enough and never will be" -- unless you buy this product! is their only aim.

[THUNDER HANDS]

22. Men should shave their back, ear and nose hair

And women should shave their legs and armpits.

Then...there would be no more war.

:D

[VelmaD]

27. Guys should shave their pits too...

What makes y'all think your pits don't stank? :eyes:

And if you look like a sasquatch you might wanta consider shaving that chest hair.

Of course there are other "areas" ;-) I think you should shave, or at least trim, out of common courtesy but if we get into that Skinner will come and yell at us. *pout*

[MissMillie]

23. I do have soft blonde fuzz on my hair

it's not as coarse as men's either. It's not that I don't shave, but I limit it to about 4 times a year.

No one ever sees it anyway, and frankly, removing the hair just dries out your skin.

[Nikia]

28. I know I always cut myself

Sometimes I wonder if it is worth shaving because I usually have gashes on my legs all summer when I shave most days for wearing shorts. During the winter, I usually shave once every week or so. My husband doesn't care if my legs are a little hairy. When I wear shorts in the summer though, I worry what other people will think. Maybe, I should try waxing. I tried nair and I had to leave it on much longer for it to work and then it burned and I wa sparanoid about accidently touching my head while the stuff was still on my hands. Can they really remove all your leg hair for $400? I though that was about the price of removing a mustache or excess eyebrow hair.

[camero]

29. I sympathize.

I would hate to have to shave my legs. Shaving your face isn't a walk in the park either though. Sometimes we have to do it twice a day.

[populistmom]

30. I'm still glad to be a women

I don't mind shaving and I like looking girly. Besides, in some ways it's easier. Women are free in our society to express their feelings more. It can be tough on the other hand for the sensitive type guys in a culture that values for men mainly money and often aggressive behavior.

[TXlib]

31. We can pee standing up.

But you women got 'multiple orgasms'.

[camero]

32. Speak for yourself

We got them too. :D

[redqueen]

33. lol -- how many women get orgasms at all... let alone multiple!

:D

[supernova]

46. Speak for yourself!

:D

[TEXASYANKEE]

35. Amen to that!

Seems a good tradeoff! ;-)

[redqueen]

34. Then screw it, don't shave

I don't. Don't wear much makeup either. Neither do I style my hair.

BE the change you wish to see in the world. :)

[alarimer]

42. me neither

I stopped giving a rat's ass what anyone thinks years ago. The last straw was when I guy I was dating actually POUTED when I cut my hair (I like it short- I work outdoors so anything else is a pain). I told him to fuck off and have never let anyone tell me what to look like.

[Atman]

43. Everyone shaves. But how did it catch on?

I'm a card-carrying member of AANR. And one thing has baffled me since joining many years ago...how do people keep up with fads that happen in your pants?

I mean, I know at the club, hell, everyone is naked. You see it all right there, who shaves and who doesn't -- everyone shaves, both men and women. Men don't do it quite as much, though, generally speaking.

So, the question is...is EVERYBODY watching porn and hanging around naked with their friends? How the hell do you know this is the current fad? It's not like you bring it up at the Thanksgiving table, or talk about it during class, right? So how did this fad spread? Or are we just a lot nakeder and hornier than anyone is willing to admit?

[BBradley]

36. Not to mention you can't get any number of prostate ailments...

How unlucky for you.

[geniph]

37. I shave or wax when I feel like it, and don't when I don't

and anyone who wishes to make judgements on either state can keep it to him/herself. My husband has his back waxed; he feels much better about himself when he's not totally hirsuit. I do think more men should trim their armpit hair - if it's long enough to braid, it's getting to the gross stage, fellas.

I am literally the only female I know who doesn't wear makeup to work. I don't see the point. I'm a techie, not window dressing. I fancy myself up when I'm going somewhere where it matters. I try to look tidy at work, not provocative. For some reason, that makes people think I'm strange. Why? What is this push for social conformity at all costs?

[tigereye]

38. haven't worn makeup since high school

hate it. Guess I agree more with the hairy woman camp, shaving is a pain, but then again, I don't want to scare people at the pool. Wish it didn't matter.

[dpbrown]

41. Who says you have to meet someone else's criteria?

Who says there aren't men (or women for that matter) who prefer the hirsute female?

Who says there aren't men who "detail" their own bodies?

I think people can look like whatever they want to look like. There's someone out there who you would like to be with who would like you the way you'd like to appear instead of the way you feel forced to appear.

[jmowreader]

48. Men look bestial without baby-smooth legs and armpits too

Difference is, we like it that way.