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qwertyMike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:15 AM Original message |
Poll question: Is Psychiatry Nonsense or is there Something to It? |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
1. It's a legitimate science |
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LeftyFingerPop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. It saved my life... |
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Symarip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:38 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. That makes one of us |
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LeftyFingerPop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Are you alright? |
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Symarip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I think I'm fine |
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LeftyFingerPop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Oooh, ok...I'll stay out of this... |
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Eyerish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. You might need to see someone about that narwhal obsession of yours... |
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DarkTirade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. That, and of course there is the occasional crap doctor who gives the whole profession a bad name. |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
88. Psychaitry is based on Tarot! |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
5. they do some good |
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Word, my dear SPKrazy! |
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Eyerish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Well said! |
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backtoblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
64. Agreed |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
9. Like all doctors, I think they can help those who want to be helped. |
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Eyerish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
10. It can change lives if the therapist really cares about their patients... |
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fizzgig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
12. i really think it saved my life |
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Dangerously Amused (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
14. Like people in every profession, there are good head docs, bad head docs, |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
15. As the wife of a psychiatrist/psychoanalyst in practice for almost 35 years |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 01:51 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. You could say the same for witch doctors, shamans, etc. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:31 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Psychiatrists are MD's. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 10:01 AM Response to Reply #31 |
49. It's not a "SCIENCE" |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Exactly. Freud and Jung's work was based entirely on |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
73. Yup. |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #52 |
74. Actually that's not true - Jung was one of the first to do actual experiments |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
118. So MD's aren't scientists |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. He can be taught after all! |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 02:23 AM Response to Reply #15 |
27. Ah, there's the Freudian party line... |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:36 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Ah so All docs are frauds then |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:08 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Thank you. I typed and deleted several stronger statements in my post # 37 |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:06 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. It has nothing to do with Freud. Changing one's life, developing different |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
41. Ya know, that was unnecessarily rude. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
62. Right. When I get all my fraudulently taken money back, |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #62 |
116. Fine |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
121. Ah, I see now. You got screwed by ONE so they all suck. |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
67. not all psychiatry is psychoanalysis (in fact, most is NOT) |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
17. used to work in a psych hospital - like to think some of it was worthwhile. |
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qwertyMike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. It was |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 01:05 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Mike, I don't understand it, but I got along better with the patients |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
19. How do you feel about it? |
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TK421 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
20. My psychiatrist told me I have multiple personality disorder..I told him " You got the wrong guy"! |
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Lethe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 02:08 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. How many psychiatrists does it take to unscrew a light bulb? |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
21. It can work very well |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
25. What do you think about it... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 02:19 AM Response to Original message |
26. Most of it is nonsense. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:39 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. I suggest you go to med school for four years |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #33 |
54. Four years of medical school makes you a physician, |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. What qualifies YOU to muck around with people's psyches? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. I don't. I know my limitations, and refer people to other counselors |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Your intentionally mean-spirited personal attack regarding my mother should |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. Umm, that was a joke. A mild dig at the assumptions of |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #54 |
119. Cleary being a preacher |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:22 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. I wondered if you weren't bitter from a bad experience. I'm sorry you |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #39 |
55. Psychoanalysis is entirely based on a lack of respect for the |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #55 |
75. Wow. That is shockingly ignorant, Critters. I'm surprised at you. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Simple concept--abuse begets anger. nt |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 09:34 PM Response to Reply #79 |
122. Yet doesn't equate to being right. |
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Dangerously Amused (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #75 |
87. Agreed. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #87 |
96. I refer to therapists who use proven techniques. |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #55 |
80. Critters2 |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Psychoanalysis is based on the assumption that the client |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. The counselor I went to, after my mother died, was very helpful |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #85 |
95. I've seen too much of the bad. nt |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. One of the things counseling helped me realize... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. As I've stated elsewhere, there are some good therapists, |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Ok, good |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:14 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. My complaint is with psychoanalysis and the neo-Freudians. |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Given your statements, how is a person in denial going to change? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #86 |
94. "Denial" is a judgment made by the therapist. |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. A good therapist will aid a person in recognizing denial, which can |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Clients have the right to define their own problems, and to seek |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #103 |
110. If the client is aware of the problem, great. What do you do with the alcoholic |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Denial is huge in many addictions and illnesses. |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. I think you're right about the brick wall. See the response #113. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 01:18 AM Response to Reply #110 |
113. Why is the alcoholic in the therapist's office in the first place. |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:46 AM Response to Reply #26 |
42. Since you're providing referrals, I hope your personal bias isn't hurting people |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. I refer only to cognitive behavioral or dialectical behavioral therapists |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. People pay for abuse, in churches for example, all the time. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. It doesn't surprise me. I don't endorse abuse in my own profession, |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Can you provide any evidence that psychiatry is based upon |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. A large part of the difference is that I don't pretend that what I do |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. I'm finished here. You have changed my opinion about you as a member of this community. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. I refer to qualified licensed therapists. Just not YOUR preferred |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
68. Dupe. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
69. Nope. Not even close. |
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cherish44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 02:43 AM Response to Original message |
28. If people are open to it and want to change, it can be very effective |
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Jeep789 (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 03:24 AM Response to Original message |
29. The do some good. They do some bad. |
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Droopy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 04:00 AM Response to Original message |
30. Okay folks. There's a difference between a psychiatrist and a psychologist |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:41 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Thank you psychiatrists are MD's |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:00 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Actually most psychologists in many states can prescribe meds. |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:48 AM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Thank you. Not sure how much good it will do to try to educate people |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
106. I, myself, am blown away at some of the things I have read. |
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fizzgig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
90. thanks for this post, droopy |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
35. Complete and utter nonsense. Why would anyone go into that field? |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:40 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Try asking someone who has devoted his life to helping people |
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Droopy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:48 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. I do believe Midlo is a psychologist with a Ph.D. |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 08:27 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. I don't know Midlo--except for her U Conn connection--and I do know |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 08:02 AM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Midlo's pullin' your leg, I think. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #40 |
50. Psst, dude. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
76. What school of thought are you trained in, Midlo? |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #76 |
91. Well, I've been schooled in all of them, but I tended to come |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #76 |
107. But for your bad experience (which I don't want to take away from at all), |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
45. I'm amazed that this question is still coming up. |
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FloridaJudy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
46. How about both of the last two? |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
72. Sounds like my experience |
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fizzgig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #72 |
89. your last statement is dead on |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
63. Often just pill pushers. |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
65. "Droolers"? |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
77. "some good" or "lifesaver," no in-between? |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
78. I'm glad there's only one vote for "I'm Woody Allen." |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Ah, Woody Allen. 35 years in psychoanalysis, and he still married |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Well, since his therapy is confidential... |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #81 |
109. You know, maybe he feels he benefits from it. |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
83. Well, isn't this a delightful topic? |
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kimmerspixelated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
92. Psychology yes-Psychiatry no! |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. Not all psychiatrists are drug pushers. |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #97 |
108. And drugs, in and of themselves, are not dangerous |
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kimmerspixelated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #108 |
115. With psycho- drugs |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. Wrong. But thanks for playing. |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
93. I'd be dead right now if it wasn't for psychiatrists. |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
101. For those inclined, here's an interesting view on the dying art of psychotherapy |
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DuaneBidoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
112. It is totally good science, and someday combined with the contemplative traditions we will find that |
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Mad_Dem_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
117. Therapy and medication saved my life |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
123. Depending on the patient and the doctor it could be both. |
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