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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 01:55 AM
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Am I a pedophile?
I confess that I have gazed upon (esp. whilst living in the UK) the occasional Page Three model while entertaining lustful thoughts. I am shocked to learn that some of these models were not 18. Does this make me a pedophile? Should I report myself so that I might be entered into the sex-criminal database?

The Sun and other British tabloids have also provoked controversy by featuring girls as young as 16 as topless models. Samantha Fox, Maria Whittaker, Debee Ashby, and many others began their topless modelling careers in The Sun at the age of 16, while the Daily Sport was even known to count down the days until it could feature a teenage girl topless on her 16th birthday, as it did with Linsey Dawn McKenzie in 1994, among others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page_Three

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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 01:58 AM
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1. Pedophilia refers to prepubescents, so no.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:25 AM
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6. I love Def Jam Abe.
Edited on Mon Mar-02-09 02:33 AM by Robeson
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:28 AM
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7. OK, but it's still child porn, right?
Sixteen over here is illegal. Sixteen over there is legal. Am I pev over here but not over there?
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:30 AM
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8. Yeah, it's sketchy at best, haha.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:57 AM
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14. Sixteen is legal in NC.
but not in SC. So, you'd be a pev in SC, but not in NC.
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Lost in CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 11:21 AM
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22. 16 is legal to have sex but not to look at a photo... silly but true. nt
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:32 AM
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10. delete. My browser is screwy.
Edited on Mon Mar-02-09 02:33 AM by Robeson
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 01:59 AM
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2. You read British tabloids?
:hide:
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:15 AM
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3. Only for the articles
Honest!

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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:22 AM
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4. You should report yourself. It would be funny.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:30 AM
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9. No actually it would not be
Once the machines of justice start grinding, it's pretty much mechanical and they aren't really interested in nuance.
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 03:45 AM
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15. Sorry, I had a hair up my ass about another issue.
If the "machines of justice" have already started grinding, then I'd say you are fucked.

Dude, I don't know what you mean by "nuance". If that means you fucked a child, teen, then that's not cool.

Good luck.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:22 AM
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5. In most states, yes.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:35 AM
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11. a pedophile or a criminal?
A criminal if, in 1990, I brought a British tabloid back to the states or a pedophile from appreciating a nekid 16-y-o female form?
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:38 AM
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12. Both, according to the law in many states
it makes you a pedophile. Mailing that copy of Sun across state lines and appreciating the picture make you a pedophile, according to many state sex offender laws. Don't forget that they would make you register for life.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:46 AM
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13. Damn it!
I always suspected I wuz bad.

Now I know.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 11:34 AM
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24. there are states that have redefined pedophilia to mean under legal age?
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 09:11 AM
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16. This is what happened to me the other day...
I'm an old woman who hasn't been "turned on" in quite some time. The other day, I went to have some X-rays taken. Then this young technician came out to get me. He couldn't have been more than twenty. He was take-your-breath-away gorgeous. Tall, lean, shiny black hair to just below his ears, red lips and the bluest eyes you've ever seen. Then he smiled, and I thought "Oh my God; I'm a pedophile". I guess it's just the way it makes you feel.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:55 PM
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29. ZANNE IS A PEV! ZANNE IS A PEV!
Was he one of the Mass College of Pharmacy students? My doctor always seems to have someone from the physician assistant program on hand. It's awkward enough that my doc is sort of cute and about my age without bringing a 23 year old into the picture...
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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 09:39 AM
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17. The models look no different than a 20 something once they are made up.
Edited on Mon Mar-02-09 09:41 AM by FedUpWithIt All
As a viewer it can be difficult to tell age of the model.

That is not really the issue though. It IS exploitation to expose a teenager to national attention like this. Teens are not able to make mature, informed decisions like a woman a few years older would be. A teenager might not fully comprehend the long term consequences of their choices. These women almost always go into the a sex industry career. Would they have chosen this same future if they had been allowed to mature a little? Nobody can say because they were NOT left alone to wait and see. The magazines cross into questionable territory for many when they go into this "grey" area. You would not even have a question to ask if they would have simply allowed the kids to finish being kids and instead showed young adult models.

Let's leave the kids alone. There are plenty of breasts over 18 to look at.

I want to add...I am COMPLETELY opposed to teens being prosecuted as sex offenders for sending out their own pictures or receiving pictures of their peers. I am also opposed to SO status for 18/16 couples. I do think that there should be consequences for adults that EXPLOIT the images of young people.

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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 09:57 AM
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18. Are there any women, say,
Edited on Mon Mar-02-09 10:00 AM by SOteric
over 30 with whom you'd have no trouble doing the horizontal boogie?

Yes? Then you're prolly not a pedophile. Unless there's only one and she's a pre-pubescent-looking midget little person.

No? Maybe a visit to a competent therapist wouldn't be such a bad idea... :shrug:
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cherish44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 10:05 AM
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19. I think there's a difference
Edited on Mon Mar-02-09 10:06 AM by cherish44
Actually a VAST difference between guys who like prepubescent little girls and guys who think 16 and 17 year old boobies are cool. As long as it's confined to lusting and not pursuing a real life liaison with an almost 18 year old, you're probably ok. (Best keep it to yourself though)
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 11:15 AM
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20. did you also realize you couyld be considered one if you
have a thing for catholic schoolgirl outfits?
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ReliantJ Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 11:19 AM
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21. Are you fapping to Miley Cyrus?
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Lost in CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 11:24 AM
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23. Thats okay in many states your copy of Animal House is child porn.
Edited on Mon Mar-02-09 11:25 AM by Lost in CT
As it depicts a topless 14 year old girl engaging in sexual acts (Never mind the actress is 18 or over that is still against many state laws.)

And the less said about your copy of Private Lessons the better... :scared:
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 12:42 PM
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28. Private Lessons?

They can have my copy of Private Lessons when they pry it from my cold, dead ... ummm, perhaps I should find another way to phrase that.

The 80s were a great time to be pubescent.

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 11:39 AM
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25. Maria Whittaker
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 12:19 PM
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26. Not whilst in the UK, no.
age of consent is 16... so no pedophilia going on there.

But me to look at page 3 online? If the girl was under 18, and me in NC?

Hmmm... interesting.

Mark.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 12:27 PM
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27. I'm just curious...
do you really think you might be, or did you just want to get reactions and opinions from the Lounge?
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 03:10 PM
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30. just interested in reaction
but I did just recently learn about the age 16 thing in the UK and it made me feel kinda pevy.

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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 03:48 PM
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31. The fact that you feel kinda pevvy about it suggests that you aren't a pedo.
Edited on Mon Mar-02-09 03:48 PM by DarkTirade
At least I'm assuming that your reaction would be something like, "Hey, she's cute. Wait... she's HOW old? Ooookay... I'm walkin' away now." Which is a fairly non-pedo reaction.

Now if your reaction is, "Really? Only 16? ... you got any more?", then that might be a little wrong.
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