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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:23 PM
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Poll question: Favorite Tiny European Nation
Edited on Wed Mar-03-04 10:37 PM by JohnLocke
:)
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:24 PM
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1. No Monaco?
;-)
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:25 PM
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2. The Monagasts will be ticked off
Edited on Wed Mar-03-04 10:26 PM by Robb
...they're not in there. ;)

On edit: OK GOPisEvil, that was almost creepy!
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:27 PM
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5. Rabrrrrrr's painting was speaking to me...it said..."Monaco"...
:shrug:
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:27 PM
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6. LOL
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:25 PM
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3. Malta: the location of Joe Don Baker's film, "FINAL JUSTICE."

Saw it on MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000. Lousy film, but terrific scenery!
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:28 PM
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7. Plus apparently
they have a thriving pet export industry, mostly dogs and falcons. :shrug:
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:38 PM
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15. "YOU THINK YOU CAN HANDLE ME? GO 'HEAD ON!"
Brilliant fucking film! Joe Don Baker playing someone named Geronimo!
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hussar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 01:18 AM
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33. Popeye too
Been to Malta twice, lovely place apart from the abundance of Brit tourists!
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:26 PM
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4. I added Monaco. (nt)
:)
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:30 AM
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46. Vroom Vroom!
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:31 PM
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8. What about Lichtenstein?
Just wondering.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:31 PM
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9. I added it.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:31 PM
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10. Spelled Liechtenstein
Edited on Wed Mar-03-04 10:32 PM by NoPasaran
The residents of Vaduz will thank you
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:33 PM
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11. Luxembourg.
What you expect Europe to be like. Plus I am related to half the country.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:37 PM
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14. Maybe we're related :-)
German last name but supposedly the family was actually from Luxembourg.

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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 11:23 PM
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25. Are you related to Hugo Gernsback?
??
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:35 PM
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12. My ancestors are from Luxembourg
well, some of 'em are.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:36 PM
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13. My grandfather was from Mertzig...
and my grandmother from Feulen. Where are yours from? Curious.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:39 PM
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16. Not sure, but I can find out from my brother
this would have been back in the late 1800's though.

I'll let you know... I'll email him and see.

ok cuz? :-)
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:41 PM
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17. Sure, cuz.
My grandparents (on my mother's side) emigrated in the early 1890s.

My grandfather came over first, did well in Chicago, and then returned to bring back his sweetheart. Interesting. Did you know that Chicago traditionally has had a (relatively) sizeable Luxembourgisch community?

Have you ever been there? Great country. I am fortunate to be in contact with cousins there.

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:27 AM
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45. The Smiths made a song for you
"Ask". :hi:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:43 PM
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18. other
Slovenia.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:45 PM
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19. Not exactly tiny...
...small, yes, but not on the city-state level of the countries I have here.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 12:20 AM
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27. you said small :)
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mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:48 PM
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20. Scotland, home of the band "Weezer."
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:45 AM
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48. And that other popular Scottish band - INXS.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 01:13 PM
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54. It's about 300 miles from south to north
400, if you measure to the Shetlands, rather than just the mainland. That's not tiny in Europe ...
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chicaloca Donating Member (704 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:48 PM
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21. I once saw Patrick Swayze in a restaurant in Luxembourg...
Plus, that restaurant had the best food I've ever had in my life, and Luxembourg City is absolutely beautiful. So Luxembourg gets my vote. :)
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:48 PM
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22. Malta!
The whole island was awarded a medal for bravery in WW2; when they became independent they put it on thier flag.
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:55 PM
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23. Andorra! Up in the mountains, no unemployment, the best of
France & Spain, tourist bucks. And nobody's heard of it (although I think the Princess Diaries were supposed to be about Andorra).
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 01:14 AM
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32. Andorra is cool.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 11:13 PM
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24. You forgot SMOM...
The Sovereign Military Order of Malta. It occupies one building somewhere or another. Really! You could look it up!
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 12:16 AM
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26. Malta
Ancient Mediterranean island and former British colony, so nearly everyone speaks English, but the native language, Maltese, is actually a dialect of Arabic written in the Roman alphabet, although the people are Catholic, not Muslim.
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hussar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 01:22 AM
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35. Malta most bombed place during WW2
a little piece of trivia for you.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 12:35 AM
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28. Andorra
because, it is mountaneous and I lik Mountains.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 12:59 AM
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29. Trieste (Don't know its status now, but it used to be a country)
Emperor Maximilian of Mexico (and Carlotta) had a castle there – Miramar.
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Vernunft II Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 03:19 AM
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38. Triest is part of Italy since 1919
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slack Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 01:02 AM
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30. Switzerland
ok. it's not really tiny.
for me, it's tiny enough, and I really love this little country.
nice dialect. (for those who speak german, french or italien)
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hussar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 01:21 AM
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34. Lived there 81-88
place called Effretikon between Winterthur and Zurich also my mother was Swiss and I have relatives there.
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slack Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 02:02 AM
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36. my ex-girlfried
came from bienne or biel.
i love her still today, best woman ever. ;)
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I AM SPARTACUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 01:12 AM
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31. The Grand Duchy of Fenwick...
The Duchy of Grand Fenwick decides that the only way to get out of their economic woes is to declare war on the United States, lose and accept foreign aid. They send an invasion force to New York (armed with longbows) which arrives during a nuclear drill that has cleared the streets. Wandering about to find someone to surrender to, they discover a scientist with a special ultimate weapon that can destroy the Earth. When they capture him and his bomb they are faced with a new possibility: What do you do when you win a war?



Mouse That Roared, The (1959)
Credited cast:
Peter Sellers .... Grand Duchess Gloriana XII/Prime Minister Count Rupert Mountjoy/Tully Bascombe
Jean Seberg .... Helen Kokintz
William Hartnell .... Will Buckley
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:20 AM
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50. Great stories...
along with The Mouse on the Moon...

Cold War Paranoia made silly.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:23 AM
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53. Damn, I missed you say this first
Pout.
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Fight_n_back Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 02:06 AM
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37. San Marinos whole economy is based
on making stamps....how cool is that? Its a nation with one cottage industry as its source of income.
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Vernunft II Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 03:19 AM
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39. You´re forgetting Euro coins :-)
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Vernunft II Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 04:12 AM
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40. Technically there are 4 more tiny states in Europe.
Luxembourg Luxembourg 2,586 454,157
Faroer Islands Torshavn 1,399 46,345
Man Douglas 572 74,261
Andorra Andorra la Vella 468 69,150
Malta Valletta 316 400,420
Liechtenstein Vaduz 160 33,145
Jersey Saint Helier 116 90,156
Guernsey Saint Peter Port 78 64,818
San Marino San Marino 61 28,119
Monaco Monaco 2 32,130
Vatican Vatican City 1 911

as comparison:
Rhode Island Providence 3,139 1,069,725


The Faroer Islands, Guernsey, Jersey and Man are not formally independent but print up their own money, have their own governments and even their own languages. The only 2 states in the above list that fully take care of themselves are Luxemburg and Malta, all others are associated with a bigger nation for international purposes. Faroer Islands with Denmark, Man, Jersey and Guernsey with the United Kingdom, Andorra and Monaco with France, San Marino and Vatican with Italy.
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 05:24 AM
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41. Don't forget Gibraltar!
Edited on Thu Mar-04-04 05:44 AM by countfloyd
ok maybe not technically a nation...But not part of Spain either...

I like all these tiny little countries, personally...Always loved geography and marvelled at the existence of these places when I discovered them while growing up......I also remember reading about some even tinier self proclaimed contries like New Atlantis and Outer Baldonia when I was a child...hmmm...maybe a google search is in order!

(on edit) Must not forget mentioning Freedonia (Duck Soup anyone?) or Latveria (Doctor Doom's kingdom)!!!
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Vernunft II Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:34 AM
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42. Gibraltar is a crown colony, not a nation :-)
They have alot less self governing there although they do print up their own money.

It´s also interesting that none of these small states (except for Luxemburg and soon Malta) are part of the EU even when their "mother" nations are.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:49 AM
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43. The protector of Italian virginity: SIR ULRICH VON LICHTENSTEIN!
no brainer for me :shrug:
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Avonrepus Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:17 AM
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44. San Marino
Worlds oldest republic, est. 310ad
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:03 AM
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47. Transnystria
Okay...not quite sure how you spell it but there was a program on Australian TV about it. Apparently it is a part of Moldova that seceeded during the breakup of the USSR and has no official recognition as an independent nation. It receives heavy backing from Russia and it has a President named Smirnoff -no wonder Yeltsin liked the country:)
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Vernunft II Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:49 AM
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49. Trans-Dniestria
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:21 AM
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51. I've only been to Monaco, so.... *l*
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:22 AM
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52. The Duchy of Grand Fenwick
;-)
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 02:23 PM
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55. Malta
I've always wanted to visit an island.
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