Man - I'd forgotten what a piece of shit Bernstein's "Mass" is.

[Rabrrrrrr]

I'm listening to WNYC, the show "Evening Music" which is about the Mass tonight, because Lincoln Center is doing some big fucking Bernstein celebration.

Most of Bernstein's music is just awful - it's dated, cliche, and not interesting. Yeah, it's full of tritones and dissonance and odd rhythms, but it's all done with all the interest and flair of Celine Dion.

He's like Stravinsky for the Reader's Digest set.

Except his Jeremiah Symphony - I kind of like that one.

Otherwise, he's awful, and his Mass is particularly heinous. Not for theological reasons, just for reasons of artistry.

I can't help but laugh at it. Just like I can't help but laugh at West Side Story. His ludicrous attempts at "jazz" are, seriously, like Jack Chick's attempts at "thinking".

:puke:


Listening to this I'm totally transported to 1971 with men in "sensitive" sandals and shorts, EST seminars, sideburns, blow-dryed hair with feathering and "sensitive" beards, and playing Earth Games out in the fields...

[LaydeeBug]

1. curious. Are you a fan of Bartok?

Just wondering.

[Rabrrrrrr]

4. Yes, I like Bartok very much.

Why do you ask?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. "Stravinsky for the Reader's Digest set"!

:rofl:

On reflection, maybe more like Mantovani channeling Janacek.

[Redstone]

3. Uh-huh. Heresy it may be, but you're right. I know this from experience, being someone

who has never liked the Beatles, nor acknowledged their supposed musical genius.

Redstone

[Manifestor_of_Light]

5. West Side Story has parts that will live forever.

And the Overture to Candide is really good.

But yes, the Mass is a POS.

[NNadir]

6. The Callous Sophisticates Laughed At Judy's Tiny Head

[amitten]

7. I like the music you write much better. n/t

[Rabrrrrrr]

9. So do I. I'm curious, though, how you've ever heard it.

[amitten]

11. Don't question my powers. n/t

[Rabrrrrrr]

12. Okay!

[Ellen Forradalom]

8. My dad

also a composer, remembered the days when he was called "Lenny." He spit out the name Lenny Bernstein contemptously.

[MissMillie]

10. I always liked it

:shrug:

[meegbear]

13. Between him and John Williams, I don't know which is worse

[HEyHEY]

14. Which bernstein?

[Rabrrrrrr]

15. Leonard.

[HEyHEY]

16. pheww, thought you meant elmer

[UndertheOcean]

17. Unlike Mahler , Bernstien was a phenomenal conductor

His Tristan und Isolde is stunning.

Too bad he was a second rate composer.

Atleast he was not as bad as weber (the new one )

[UndertheOcean]

18. BTW ? do you like Prokofiev?

now that's some beautiful dissonance !

[Rabrrrrrr]

19. I still have a bad taste in my soul from listening to it, so I'm kicking. Come on - pile on Lenny!

Arrogant fuck.