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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:17 PM
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Poll question: Cogito Ergo Sum or Sum Ergo Cogito?
Talk amongst yourselves.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:18 PM
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1. Sum Ergo Cogito is pretty much refuted by the mere existence of
George W. Bush.
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:19 PM
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2. Nope
Wrong thinking is still thinking.

As is stupid thinking.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:19 PM
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3. Sum. Cogito. Ergo,

THEY GOT A PEPPER BAR!
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:20 PM
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4. Nice.
Never thought of that one! I like it.
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:21 PM
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5. Descartes was a dumbass.
I think, therefore I realize that I am.

That which does not think is not self-aware, but that does not negate its existence. And as Descartes disproved the "evil demon" thesis (to his satisfaction, anyway), the phenomenal (Kant's word, I know) is still real.

Hence, by Descartes' own teleology, thought is not a precondition of existence.

Which means the Cogito is hogwash.
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:23 PM
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6. Exactly.
Descartes' traps himself.
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Philosophy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:28 PM
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7. Sum ergo sum
That's what I believe. :D
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:30 PM
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8. Didn't Popeye say something similar?
N/T
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:40 PM
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9. ROFL!
My monitor needed to be cleaned. Thanks!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:57 PM
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10. Well, Kabbalah Holds That The SELF Precedes All Else
The I AM or EHYH came before any differentiation.

To THINK would require something ELSE to think on.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:01 PM
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11. Cogito Eggo Sum
I think I am a waffle.
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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:22 PM
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12. quis hic potest cognoscere linguam latinam?
si potes, scribe mihi.
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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:38 PM
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13. calco
nam volo respondentes
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:43 PM
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16. I used to
EHEU!
I stopped last year, my highschool cut fourth year latin. sucks.

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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:50 PM
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18. horrabile auditu
:-(

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The Lone Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:40 PM
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14. I think therefore….

I believe stupid shit.
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:42 PM
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15. Existence over essence
I exist, therefore there are certain dilemmas i must face that define who I am and what I believe.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:48 PM
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17. Cogito Ergo Spud
I think therefore I Yam.
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