Bernie Mac Another Casualty of Conventional Medicine?

[proud2BlibKansan]

The number of famous people dying at the hands of conventional medical doctors is increasing at an alarming rate. Today comedian Bernie Mac (best known for appearing in Oceans Eleven and The Bernie Mac Show) died following hospitalization and treatment for pneumonia. At the young age of 50, Bernie Mac joins an increasing roster of other notable celebrities who have died while being treated with conventional pharmaceuticals or chemotherapy: Heath Ledger, Peter Jennings, Tim Russert and many more.

Pneumonia is the name given to a common infection that fails to be properly handled by the body's own immune system. Bernie Mac's immune system, it turns out, was suppressed by pharmaceuticals due to treatments for an autoimmune disorder he was previously diagnosed with, called sarcoidosis.

The most common treatments for sarcoidosis are dangerous steroids (like Prednisone) or immune system suppressing drugs like Methotrexate. Following his treatment with one or both of these pharmaceuticals, Bernie Mac was described as having his sarcoidosis go into "remission." That's conventional medicine's code word for masking symptoms with dangerous chemicals while ignoring the underlying cause of the disease.

"Sarcoidosis," meanwhile, is just a fancy-sounding name for an out-of-control autoimmune response caused by an imbalanced immune system which is disrupted by dietary imbalances and exposure to toxic chemicals through processed foods, pharmaceuticals, personal care products and other environmental sources (like pesticides or cleaning solvents). Bernie Mac didn't really have sarcoidosis; he was merely given that label by doctors who attached a fancy name to a pattern of symptoms that Bernie Mac expressed.

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[LeftyMom]

1. Oh ffs.

:popcorn:

[AlCzervik]

2. How does Mike Adams know this---

How doctors destroyed Bernie Mac's immune system

Rather than addressing the underlying causes of his autoimmune disorders, doctors pumped him up with more chemicals that suppressed his immune system. From there, Bernie Mac was a pneumonia case just waiting to happen, because at that point he was walking around with a suppressed immune system.

Was he privy to Bernie Mac's medical records?

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

3. Many people with AIDS actually die from pneumonia.

Not that Bernie Mac had AIDS, but the end result was similar..... lack of an immune system. All of us are exposed to viruses and infections all the time. A normal immune system will fight off most of them.

[AlCzervik]

4. that's not what i asked though, i asked how Mike Adams knew this specific information

about Bernie Mac, did he know his doctor and saw his records and treatment plan?

[geomon666]

7. Well apparently according to this guy....

all you need to do to fight AIDS is change your diet (probably to a vegetarian one).

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

11. I think someone should ask Magic Johnson what he did.

Obviously the guy has enough money to do whatever he wanted, including any drug available, or build his own organic plantation or whatever else. Has Magic been seen or heard from in recent years?

[TZ]

17. Magic Johnson

Had an excellent regimen of drugs AND an experimental medical procedure which helped to eliminate ACTIVE virus from his bloodstream.
So..he got the best MEDICAL care available. Seems to have worked well for him

[lost-in-nj]

23. my brother who died in 1992

of AIDS had an SO

he is still alive thanks to the cocktail....

and believe it or not

he has had an apple a day since high school


he is almost 60..
and doesn't have one percent of Magic Johnsons money

just saying



lost

[CreekDog]

26. "lack of an immune system"

:rofl:

i quote "lack of"

:eyes:

[Richardo]

5. They should have just applied the leeches and maybe performed a trepanning...

Maybe a solution of distilled water and 17 molecules of wolfsbane would have helped.

Damn modern medicine - nearly 200 years since the promulgation of the germ theory of disease and STILL people are dying :cry:

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

9. Yeah, let's defend the pharmaceutical industry.....

Which is second to only the oil industry as the most corrupt bunch of thieves, murderers, and (at the risk of redundancy) Bush Crime Family business partners on the planet. More people have died from prescription drugs the last 7 years than any time before, becuase they put the shit out on the market before it's even tested anymore, and the FDA which is supposed to REGULATE this poison, is instead rubber-stamping all this unlimited saturation, and ridiculous pricing. Not to mention the fact that pharma commercials now account for about 2/3 of all TV advertising .

When the side effects are as bad or worse than the alleged cure, that should be a sign that you shouldn't put a particular toxin in your body.

[Richardo]

12. I wasn't defending pharma, I was mocking alternative medicine

Sorry I wasn't clear.

There's nothing wrong with pharma that a beefed up, real regulatory FDA and unrestricted volume purchasing wouldn't go a long way toward fixing.

[TZ]

Umm I deal with the FDA every day

They AREN'T rubber stamping ANYTHING. Have you ever been through an FDA inspection? I have numerous times.
Guess what industry can put whatever crap they want on the market without the FDA approving or regulating..The "natural" supplement BILLION DOLLAR industry.
Hmm. Herbs and supplements rake in as much as pharamaceuticals do, yet they have far less regulation.
How nice. Silly liberal..why does one need REGULATION?

And yes, I work for biotech and actually KNOW how these things work. I don't just google my info.

[Richardo]

16. ..

:applause:

[geomon666]

6. Well that didn't take long.

I knew some ghoul would try to politicize these celebrity deaths sooner or later. What a fucking puke trying to make money off of the dead.

[charlie and algernon]

8. aww geez

i notice you cross posted this in GD too. Someone has an agenda :eyes:

[TZ]

10. Give me a break

Someplace called "naturalnews" is far from an unbiased source. BTW almost all immuno problems are GENETIC BASED. With environmental factors. But yeah..those evil doctors have increased our life span to 70+ years! And here's proof of their evil..EVERYBODY dies!

Take this bullshit to the health forum where this crap belongs.

[Richardo]

14. Not sure about Health - maybe 9/11

[Inchworm]

15. Tell us what you really mean :P

:hug:

:thumbsup:

[CreekDog]

13. please define conventional medicine from the other kind of medicine

then we can have a thoughtful discussion about it.

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

19. Unfortunately, in the US, "conventional medicine" means only two options.

1) Toxic chemicals sold at the highest possible profit by pharmaceutical companies, which treat the symptoms, but never the cause.

2) Surgery - preferrably at a corporate owned hospital - when the toxic chemicals fail to treat the symptoms.

The things which are dismissed in this thread by the pharma apologists actually ARE considered medicine in other countries where the main motivation in health care is NOT the almighty goddamned dollar.

My dad's primary physician happens to be a Chinese immigrant. He has a better understanding of medicine that actually works, in many cases, than most of his local colleagues, but he can't legally mention any of them to his patients, let alone subscribe them, because they aren't "approved" by the US corporate medical establishment.

[CreekDog]

21. that's your definition and it's bogus too

nice straw man you've built yourself there.

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

22. How is it a straw man?

What part of what I just said isn't the truth?

[CreekDog]

24. because it's defining conventional medicine as perjoratively narrow as possible

so that you can say that it leaves out all kinds of common sense stuff.

and further because it's simply not true. plenty of physicians try to treat the cause as well as the symptoms. every doctor i have had has recommended good nutrition, exercise, doing things that make me happy as well as examinations to see that nothing serious is wrong, medication to treat pain and so forth.

the whole dichotomy of conventional versus whatever type of medicine you are proposing is a bogus one.

[hobbit709]

29. And 'traditional' Chinese medicine also includes

Powdered Rhinoceros horn, dried bear gall bladders, and a few other things like that. and let's not forget "dragon bones"- ground up fossils.

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

35. And the big pharma blood clotting drug that got in trouble recently contained pig intestines

No doubt there are some remedies that work better than others, whether it's Chinese medicine, Native American herbal remedies, or Western medicine. The real question is why, in this country, are they trying to eliminate anything that cannot be controlled by patents and profit margins?? Shouldn't the ONLY question be what actually WORKS better? And beyond that, an emphasis on prevention first, and failing that, treating the cause, rather than the symptoms.

[charlie and algernon]

36. so what do you suggest for someone with a compound fracture

with the bone sticking out of the arm or leg?

Or what do you do for someone who's just had a heart attack and has stopped breathing?

[geomon666]

40. Easy....

Just rub some aloe on there and walk it off.

[Fenris]

18. If only he had lived in a bubble and was given an IV of distilled water!

He should have eaten more organic kale and royal jelly!

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

20. Well, the bubble might have been a good move actually

At least as long as his immune system was trashed :(

[CreekDog]

28. i thought you said he lacked an immune system

now he has one but it was trashed.

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

33. The pharmaceutical drug destroyed his immune system

The sterile bubble environment would have kept germs/virii/microbes/etc. away from him. I'm sure Bernie probably would have taken the bubble as a short term solution, rather than die a horrible death of pneumonia.

[Phillycat]

25. Wow, this is one of the stupider threads I've ever read on DU.

Complete waste of bandwidth.

[Kali]

38. oh you should check out some of the other forums

PLENTY o' stupidity MUCH worse than this :rofl:

[CreekDog]

27. the only difference between conventional medicine and the other kind

is that conventional medicine's techniques and knowledge are more likely to stand up using the scientific method.

the other kind, not so much. :eyes:

[ElboRuum]

30. OP Trashing Conventional Medicine Posted...

Results typical.

Did the popcorn run out? Oh, just those little kernels and a few greasy crumbs left. I always get here too late for the snacks.

[AlCzervik]

31. i still have some gummi worms left, want some?

[ElboRuum]

34. No Junior Mints? Sure, ok.

[Kutjara]

32. If only he'd had access...

...to a bottle of distilled water with the "memory" of a magic lifesaving drug in it. :eyes:

[Pierre.Suave]

37. I would like to review your research

regarding Methotrexate and Prednisone...





























What? You dont have any? Thats what I thought...

[PeaceNikki]

39. If we had all just prayed for him, he'd have lived.