So, who can think of a movie sequel that spoiled an otherwise great franchise?

[Danger Mouse]

I was re-watching 'Aliens' tonight...I got the dvd as a Christmas present. It makes a nice companion to my copy of 'Alien.'
These two movies are as fantastic as they are different from one another.
Anyway, watching 'Aliens' again reminded me how much I hate 'Alien3.'
If you've seen it, you'd probably understand.
It completely pisses on everything that happened in 'Aliens,' to the point where it's borderline comedic. I hate it so much that I've disowned it...as far as I'm concerned, it didn't happen. Fuck 'Alien3.'
Can anybody else think of a movie sequel that ruined a great series for them?

[MrScorpio]

1. Highlander 2

Nuff said

[LeftyMom]

3. GMTA.

[MrScorpio]

6. Yes, we do, baby cakes

Yes, we do

[Danger Mouse]

5. Wow, 2 votes right away. That's incredible.

Must be a shitty ass movie.

[Chovexani]

69. Highlander 2 is so shitty

That the Highlander TPTB have struck it from the canon.

[ZombieNixon]

7. Of course Highlander 2 was destined to be a steaming pile.

There can only be one.

[Danger Mouse]

8. I feel left out of the highlander 2 hate-fest.

:cry:

[LeftyMom]

11. Get thee to Schlockbuster, rent the first two and don't say we didn't warn you.

Hint: it's less painful if you're really drunk. You might miss some of the worst parts while throwing up.

[MrScorpio]

14. Every other one went back to formula

Even the series... It went back to formula


Like an apology that Highlander 2 ever existed

[DarkTirade]

17. Since the fourth one kinda made the 2nd one impossible...

yeah, I think that's what they were trying to do. Just trying to erase #2 out of existance. :)

Still can't believe Adrian Paul cut his hair though. :( Did anybody else notice that the ratings for the series started immediately going down after that happened?

[MrScorpio]

18. I just read that Mulcahy hated H2

He wanted to change his credit to "Alan Smithee", but the studio had him by the balls.'

They kept him out of production meetings

He walked out of the premier after the first 15 minutes


It was a fuck up all the way around


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102034/trivia

[DarkTirade]

19. Kinda reminds me of what Disney did to the third season of the cartoon Gargoyles.

Only even they didn't fuck up THAT badly...

[Chovexani]

70. I cried when he cut his hair.

It threw a wrench into all those Duncan/Methos slash fics I wrote with hair pulling...

GAH that was my outside voice!

:blush: :yoiks:

[DarkTirade]

89. Well, they're immortal. They'll have plenty of time for it to grow back.

[Danger Mouse]

25. is it entertainly bad, or just godawful bad?

i might do so. i enjoy painfully bad movies.

[Chovexani]

74. I'm a MSTie, to give you can idea

As well as a Highlander fan, and I can't sit through it unless I've had a couple of beers and I'm with friends who can riff on it with me. It's really that bad.

[Frank Cannon]

83. It's not "so bad it's good". It's just bewilderingly awful.

It was the first movie I thought of when I saw this thread title.

[DS1]

13. I can't make it through the first one

[LeftyMom]

2. Highlander 2.

Lock the thread, I win. You can't possibly think of a worse sequel than that.

[Danger Mouse]

4. I've never seen Highlander or Highlander 2, unfortunately...but have you SEEN 'Alien3'?

=P

[LeftyMom]

9. It's Oscar material by comparison.

Highlander 2 is so completely :wtf: and totally unrelated to the first movie, I can't even explain it. It's not even the horribleness (though it is deeply, deeply, flawed- we're talking Hitler's moral sense kind of flawed) it's the way that it's totally unlike the first movie, to the point where I'm not even sure the writers, directors, etc had SEEN the first movie.

[MrScorpio]

15. But get this...

Mulcahy directed the second movies as well


But Greg Widen didn't write it.

I really want to know what Widen thought of it

[Danger Mouse]

27. Wow.

I guess it does sound awful, but I'd have to see it before I could confirm that it pisses me off anywhere near as much as alien3 did.

[CGowen]

10. I never finished watching Alien 3 but watched Alien 4 and thought it was OK

I wonder if Indy 4 is going to be good or if it's going to ruin it.

[harmonicon]

78. you wonder? I know it will ruin it - it'll have cgi dinosaurs and a new ewok party song at the end.

[DS1]

12. I don't get my hate-on for Alien3

Alien4 was about the same level of crap.

every iteration of The Blues Brothers after the first was an abomination.

[Generic Brad]

16. Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle 2

Or were you talking about a different kind of franchise?

[Danger Mouse]

22. They made a sequel to that movie?

What were they thinking?

[XemaSab]

44. They're making a third film

Harold and Kumar go to Gitmo.

No I am not making this up. :P

[BulletproofLandshark]

20. Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions

[MrScorpio]

21. I disagree

I enjoyed those two

[Danger Mouse]

24. pretty much.

the matrix was a fantastic movie.
the two sequels couldn't live up to it. they fell far, far short.

[Kutjara]

26. Boy did they ever stink.

What a rambling, pretentious, unfocused, interminable steaming pile they were. Where the first film really created a believable world for its characters to inhabit, the two sequels looked like they were written by a high-school student in their "Herman Hesse" phase.

The last half hour of the final film was more like outtakes from 2001:A Space Odyssey that were considered too dull.

And don't get me started on that damned fight scene with the thousand Agent Smiths. Boooooooooooooorinnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggg.

[Danger Mouse]

29. But...but...I liked the part where Son Neo used the Spirit Bomb to try and kill Agent Smith...

but Agent Smith survived it and was so angry that he killed Trinity in retaliation. Then the anger Son Neo felt caused him to go Super Neo for the first time.

Look out, Agent Smith, you're in for it now!
And a video clip of the classic scene...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxRnKcX8v5k

[Kutjara]

41. Er....quite.

:hi:

[Danger Mouse]

46. haha, sorry, but the whole time i was watching that fight, i kept thinking to myself...

'my god, this is like watching a particularly BAD episode of dragon ball z.
here's an example of some of the fighting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q07qNOiwTWk&feature=related
yeah. i definitely thought of this while watching the matrix: revolutions.

[Kutjara]

48. I see what you mean.

I just thought it was the Wachowski Brothers' comic book background that sort of took them over in the last two films; stuff that works on the page often doesn't translate to live action. But I see from your clip that they must have been influenced a lot by Anime. And not in a good way.

[Danger Mouse]

49. There's one part where Freeza is hugging Goku from behind...

and they're both so muscle bound and gross the entire scene plays like some kind of twisted porn movie.

[Mojambo]

65. Absolutely

The Matrix was tight and gripping.

The sequels were atrocious.

[CreekDog]

23. Superman 4

I mean, Superman 3 actually messed it up pretty bad, but 4...oh my :cry:

[Danger Mouse]

28. Oh noes!!! CreekDog's been tombstoned!!!

I've not seen 4. I don't want to. Superman 3 was bad enough.

[CreekDog]

30. you can watch Superman 4 like you watch a car wreck

:)

[Broken_Hero]

51. ..............

:spray:

[Robeson]

31. Rocky XXI really spoiled the previous...

...XX Rocky movies. I mean, the others had such in-depth character development, then they had to come out with that XXI schlock. Jeez!

[Danger Mouse]

32. But I felt rocky XXX really brought a breath of fresh air back into the franchise...

in addition to hardcore stallone nudity.

[Robeson]

34. Well, he isn't none as the Italian Stallion for nothing.

[Danger Mouse]

35. don't even get me STARTED on the stallion...

[CreekDog]

33. Rocky V

oh, and IV.

And he should get over himself already with the roman numerals.

[Danger Mouse]

36. Everything past Rocky was an embarassment to the series.

[Robeson]

37. Bottom line.

[Bennyboy]

38. Star Wars Episode I

Jar jar Binks...Nuff said.

[Danger Mouse]

40. Jar Jar Binks is an embarassment to film.

[Orrex]

61. Very possibly the worst character in the history of science fiction film

Off the top of my head, I can't think of one worse.

Even the rampantly sexist characters from the golden age of s/f films don't compare, because they were products of their time. Jar Jar is an embarrassing throwback to an embarrassing cultural trend.

[Danger Mouse]

63. Jar Jar is an embarassment to embarassment.

[Aristus]

42. "Mee-sah no wanna-be an embarassa-mint to da feelm!"

:puke:

[Danger Mouse]

50. He might as well have been in blackface.

[Orrex]

60. The baffling thing

Is that his apologists (i.e., sycophants for whom Lucas can do no wrong) refuse to see any similarity between Jar Jar's dialogue and the classic minstrel show "Negro dialect."

As soon as I heard his voice, there was no mistaking it.

[Danger Mouse]

64. Even his damn name makes me think of that.

What on earth was George Lucas thinking when he came up with that horrible, horrible character?

[Chovexani]

72. That was just the final nail in the Star Wars coffin

The first one was put in there with Return of the Jedi and the dancing midget teddy bears, which were nifty when I was a five year old girl but not so much now. Lando redeeming himself was about the only good thing about that movie.

[harmonicon]

80. possibly the worst movie ever made

Why to destroy my childhood memories, fuckwad! The movie is so bad, I don't know where to begin.... jar jar isn't the half of it.

[Fire Walk With Me]

39. I didn't like Aliens for one good reason.

The creature was self-contained and there was no queen. A cut scene from the original shows Brett and Dallas turning into eggs, meaning that the life cycle of the Alien was self-capable. And exponential.

None of this "kill the queen, kill the hive" nonsense.

And Alien 3 was bad.

[Bennyboy]

43. Odd Numbered Star Trek episodes...

Star Trek: The Motion Picture December 7, 1979

Star Trek III: The Search for Spock June 1, 1984

Star Trek V: The Final Frontier June 9, 1989

Star Trek Generations November 18, 1994

Star Trek: Insurrection December 11, 1998



all pretty much sucked.

[Kat45]

45. The last sequel to "The Matrix."

I loved the first movie and I thought the first sequel was ok. The final sequel was supposed to explain things, bring it all together, etc. All it did was totally confuse everything, which to me negated the whole series.

[Richardo]

47. No one said Godfather III?

I've never seen it, but I never liked the idea of it either. Parts I and II stand alone.

[terrya]

58. That's a good choice.

Ugh...plus, you get to see Sofia Coppola "act".

[Danger Mouse]

66. Don't insult the word 'act' by putting it in the same sentence as Sofia Coppola.

Shame on you =P

[AlCzervik]

71. you do not want to mess with that, that movie does not exist in our house

we don't speak of it.

[Richardo]

81. Yours is a wise household.

:hi:

[petronius]

52. Die Hard 2 (the one about the airport - I think it was #2) ... nt

[NewJeffCT]

85. Yes, that was the one

I remember Bruce Willis running through Dulles airport in Washington DC and then picking up a pay phone labeled Pacific Bell.

[scarpa43]

53. Jaws and First Blood / Rambo movies n/t

[IndianaJones]

54. Star Trek: Nemesis...Oceans 12...Clooney Batman...Cocoon: the Return. nt.

[racaulk]

88. I totally agree about Batman 4.

George Clooney was horrible as Batman, and not to mention Alicia Silverstone as Batgirl! Horrible writing and acting all around.

:puke:

And Ahnuld as Dr. Freeze? WTF kind of casting decision was THAT? Did the folks in charge of casting never watch the TV show from the 60s? Dr. Freeze looked more like Patrick Stewart, instead of a 200+ pound Austrian bodybuilder.

That movie just sucked from the word go, and it totally ruined that franchise. Proof in that the franchise had to be "reborn" with Christian Bale in the lead role.

[Orsino]

90. Trek V

I mean, the first was dull, the third was badly acted (particularly so, I mean), and the fourth was pretty silly...but the fifth installment really stank up the place. The sixth and seventh were okay, and the eighth was pretty cool. Nemesis was pretty doggone bad--despite the gratuitous dune-buggy scenes--but did not approach the sheer ham-fisted awfulness of number five.

[Radical Activist]

55. Smokey and the Bandit part 3

The first is a classic. The second was a little too hokey but good. The third was just awful. It never should have been made. By the end of it I actually appreciated the acting ability that Burt Reynolds added to the first two. It was that bad.

[terrya]

56. Austin Powers II, Austin Powers III

They should have just left it at one.

[Danger Mouse]

67. I agree. It got to be shrill, bizarre, and not very funny.

[meegbear]

57. Halloween 3 ...

had NOTHING to do with the original story(s) and should NEVER have been attached to them.

[IzaSparrow]

59. Staying Alive...sequel to Saturday Night Fever...

:)

[NewJeffCT]

62. Godfather 3

Return of the Jedi
Ghostbusters 2
Phantom Menace

[AlCzervik]

68. i watched Alien 3 the other night and it did suck ass, i actually forgot it existed

until i saw it on hbo, i think it was hbo. I must have blocked it out, i love Alien, Aliens and i thought Alien Resurrection was pretty good. I also like AVP, i haven't seen that sequel yet but my bil who is a HUGH Alien fan told me he was disappointed.

[swag]

73. All the Exorcist films after the first one were horrible,

though the re-cut version of the first one was magnificent.

[Chovexani]

75. I'm so bitter they didn't go through with the original idea

That involved aliens on Earth, and breeding. :(

[Catsbrains]

76. Grease 2. and Caddyshack 2

[NewJeffCT]

84. good choices both

my brother may be one of the world's biggest fans of Caddyshack, and he detests Caddyshack 2

[Kucinich4America]

77. The James Bond Movies with Timothy Dalton were pretty damn horrible

Brosnan was at least a step back up after that.

[harmonicon]

79. I strongly disagree with that!

I think "the living daylights" is one of the best bond films ever, while "license to kill" was one of the worst, not counting every Brosnan bond apart from "golden eye". That gives Dalton 50/50, while Brosnan is like 1 for 7 or something.... I also thought the new one really sucked - a 2 1/2 hour commercial for texas hold 'em. It's as if whatever Bond movie that came out in '84 had a climax involving a rubix cube, or one from the 90's being all about a furbie.

[PVnRT]

86. Let me fix your post for you

The James Bond Movies with Timothy Dalton Roger Moore were pretty damn horrible.

Brosnan Anything, including a rotting head of cabbage was at least a step back up after that.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

82. Blimp: The Reinflation

[LanternWaste]

87. Except for Godfather II, ALL sequels...

Except for Godfather II, ALL sequels have pretty much let down the original....