The Red Sox Juggernaut Rolls On in Game Two

[alcibiades_mystery]

The massively favored red Sox team, clocking in at $143 million in payroll, continued its seemingly inevitable run against the hapless Rockies tonight, in a closer game, but with the expected results.

The Green Monster is alive and well in Fenway, but it's no longer a Wall. It's now literally green, to the tune of $143 million.

Sweep? It won't6 be a surprise when it comes, given the vast disparity between these teams.

[Marrah_G]

1. WAHHHHH WAHHHHH WAHHHHHH

[Marrah_G]

2. WAHHHHH WAHHHHH WAHHHHHH

[alcibiades_mystery]

3. LOL

:rofl:

[Marrah_G]

5. I figured you deserved 2 WAHHHHs

(nah...my mouse keeps double clicking...ack)

[alcibiades_mystery]

9. I'm not sure WHY I deserve it

But alright. Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah?

:shrug:

[Marrah_G]

16. Oh lighten up. I am giggling here.

If it's really bothering you I will stop. It's been meant in a good natured sort of a way.

[alcibiades_mystery]

23. I don't know why you'd think I'm the least bit bothered

Totally weird post.

[Marrah_G]

33. Well good then

Neither of us are bothered and life is good.

Night Night :)

[IndianaJones]

4. Holliday is alone on the Rockies. nt.

[boston bean]

6. wah wah wah,

:cry: :cry: :cry:

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. wah wah wah wah wah

I don't know why you guys are getting so upset and insulting.

Rock on, Bosox!

[Marrah_G]

10. We aren't

You just amuse us

:rofl:

[alcibiades_mystery]

12. You prove it every time you respond with an insult

:thumbsup:

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

8. Yup - boring

but we knew that

[alcibiades_mystery]

11. It's not boring

But it is predictable when the heavily favored team wins as expected.

[boston bean]

13. you obviously know nothing about baseball.

Any team can win in baseball, no matter how much the bank roll is.

The yankees bankroll is about twice the red sox.

That is part of the fun about baseball, you never know and anyone can win really.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

15. The Red Sox bank roll isn't twice the Yankees - are you fucking kidding?

Jesus

[boston bean]

18. oh you're right the red sox bank roll isn't twice the red sox bank roll

I guess I am the idiot.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

21. It isn't

The Red Sox spent about 145m and the Yanks spent about 195m - how is that twice?

[boston bean]

27. Well you edited your post before I replied,

I guess the point is that the yanks have the highest bank roll and they aren't in the fuckin world series, the god damn colorado rockies beat them.

So your argument holds no water, get it.

Now don't make me lose my temper over my beloved red sox, I am happy right now, where you are just a whining, sniveling, sore sport.


:-)

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

31. The Rockies beat the Yankees?

When did that happen

Oh and I edited because of a misspelling

[alcibiades_mystery]

32. Colorado didn't beat the Yankees dear

Colorado is in the National League.

:rofl:

Cleveland beat the Yankees. Now, your payroll atrgument could work there too, but you really can';t go around accusing people of knowing nothing about baseball when you don't even know that NL teams don't play in the AL playoffs. :rofl:

Red Sox Nation! Your have your representative!

[boston bean]

35. I knew that was coming, i am laughing my ass off.

i'm going to bed now.

Who was it they beat again? to get to the world series? obviously I had one two many.

[IndianaJones]

36. some AAA teams. nt.

[IndianaJones]

17. thats a load of crap. 189M to 143M. nt.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

19. But it feels nice to think that

:eyes:

[IndianaJones]

22. Sox fans are unreal with this evil empire crap. nt.

[alcibiades_mystery]

20. Wow...your mathy is a bit off

Yankees $189 million
Red Sox $143 million

Yup. That's about "twice." In crazy Red Sox fan math world.

And it's ME that knowns nothing about baseball! :rofl:

Listen, I don't give a fuck about payroll. I really don't. I actually agree with your position. Now if we could only get some Sox fans to agree to that argument across the board, we'd be in business! Thanks for going on record, though. You're absolutely right. Anyone can win at any time. Payroll means nothing. I hope you'll apply that consistently in the future!

[cboy4]

24. LOL. No, the Yankees' payroll is "only"

46 million dollars more.

NYY......$ 189,639,045

BOS......$ 143,026,214


http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2007

[alcibiades_mystery]

25. Biggest payrolls: 1. Yankees, 2 Red Sox, 3 Mutts

I guess payroll really doesn't matter! :rofl:

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

26. The Red Sox payroll is almost 3 times Colorado's

:shrug:

[boston bean]

30. And they beat the yankees, the highest bankrolled team in history. nt

[alcibiades_mystery]

34. You're really embarrassing yourself now

:rofl:

[boston bean]

38. well, it wouldn't be the first time

but still, the yanks were beaten by some team, I can't remember at this time, obviously and I am sure they had a lower bank roll than the yankees.

So the argument still holds some merit, although I would agree, not nearly as much as it could have.

:rofl:

[alcibiades_mystery]

40. And it won't be the last

I just want to make sure that you're consistent. The payroll doesn't matter now when it's Boston, so it also never mattered when it was the Yankees, and won't matter next year or the year after. We can never expect you to complain about the Yankee payroll again, right, since payroll means nothing? That's correct, yes?

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

37. When was that?

[wicket]

44. And Cleveland's is almost 1/3 of the Yankees

:shrug:

[alcibiades_mystery]

49. Conclusion: payroll doesn't matter at all!

Good on ya!

Let's be consistent with that now, and thanks for going on record with that.

[wicket]

51. Actually, it does

Pardon my schadenfreude at the Yankees current predicament, after years of getting harassed by Yankees fans they finally have gotten a taste of their own medicine. Delicious! :rofl:

And it obviously matters to you since you keep bringing it up ;)

[alcibiades_mystery]

52. So payroll DOES matter

Huh?

Didn't your last post imply that payroll doesn't matter? I'm confused. Or is it that you want to reserve the right to gripe about the Yankee payroll, but want to exclude the same criticism when it comes to Boston? Or is it something in between, payroll matters, but it's not everything?

For the record, I guess I understand why Boston fans cathect on to anything they perceive as criticism as if it's coming from Yankee fans, but I'm on record all over this board (including in this very thread!) as NOT a Yankee fan. It's far worse than that! I'm a Met fan! Ouuuuuch. We had the third largest payroll (after the massive Yankee and Red Sox payrolls), and we collapsed in the most disastrous late season blow up in the history of baseball! Yeah, I own that legacy. :-)

But really, your position seems contradictory.

[wicket]

53. Payroll is a legitmate criticism is my point

You're reading WAAAAAY too much into this. :shrug:

[alcibiades_mystery]

54. So nobody should get upset if I mention the Boston payroll

Good then.

We're agreed.

[wicket]

55. It doesn't bother me

It obviously bothers the Yankees fans when their payroll is brought up, so ask them?

[alcibiades_mystery]

56. OK

But their payroll is usually brought up by Red Sox fans!

:shrug:

[wicket]

57. So ask them why it bothers them so?

We just do it to get their goat, and it works :evilgrin:

[alcibiades_mystery]

58. Read the thread

Apparently it gets a lot of people's goat!

:-)

[Ekirh]

29. Damn,

I didn't realize the Rockies was that low... for some reason I thought it was at least in the 60 millions.

And wait.. the Mets were #3????? BWAHAHAHAHAH

[MissMillie]

41. I don't think the Red Sox or their fans should feel bad about being "favored"

There was going to be a team in the MLB that had the best record. If it had been the Rockies, I'm sure you'd be proud of that. You wouldn't be whining about how "predictable" the series is.

[alcibiades_mystery]

42. Who says they should feel bad about being massively favored to win?

Not me! Find where I said that.

I'm not whining at all. I'm stating a series of facts.

The Red Sox are not scrappy underdogs. They are the overwhelming favorites, a baseball giant with a huge payroll and the best players in the league, really. Good on 'em. Why would you interpret any of this as "they should feel bad about it?" Unless you already have some belief that we should only feel good about scrappy underdogs, it doesn't matter a whit whether your team is massively favored and sports all the advantages. Since I see no inherent value in being the "scrappy underdog," I really don't give a shit.

Your response suggests that maybe it's YOU who feels uncomfortable about supporting the massive favorite. I don't feel uncomfortable about it all. Again, I ask you to find something that warrants your interpretation.

[MissMillie]

43. only about 15 to 20 posts from you saying the same thing over and over again

I'm not at all uncomfortable about being the favorite. And I didn't have to say that over and over and over again.

Methinks thou protests too much.

If you really think it's me, compare my 2 posts to the number you have up on this board.

I win.

[alcibiades_mystery]

46. I'll say it again and again

What's the difference?

There are two points:

1) You're not the underdog.
2) You should never complain about payroll disparity again.

Has nothing to do with feeling bad. besides, my 15 or 20 posts are nothing compared to the 150-200 "Go Sox" posts by some others. I'm doing the same thing, with a different twist.

Has nothing to do with feeling bad.

:shrug:

[MissMillie]

47. yes, clearly you *don't* have a problem

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=7072605&mesg_id=7072605

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=7071654#7071737

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=7068774#7068843

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=7071697#7071723

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=7067277#7068141

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=7067885#7068132

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=7068060#7068162

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=7065576

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=7057141#7057157


There's absolutely no reason anyone here should think you're not being whiny about this. :sarcasm:

[alcibiades_mystery]

50. I'm commenting on the World Series in my own way

You say whiney, I say brilliant analysis. :-)

Tomato, tom-ah-to, yes?

Thanks for taking the time to look all those up, though!

Let's be friends.

[edbermac]

14. Game 1 was BORING!

I switched off before the 5th inning was over. Game 2 was pretty exciting though.

[Captain Hilts]

28. ...said someone from Chicago. Check the Cubs payroll and the Hose's record in recent years....

You're among the wealthiest 8 teams.

No, it's not fair, but coming from someone from WGN/Tribune's Cubs is kind of hypocritical. Kind of like a Mets fan complaining about that.

[alcibiades_mystery]

39. Hey man, I AM a Mets fan

And I'm not complaining about a goddamn thing. We had the 3rd highest payroll in baseball, and didn't even make the playoffs! Collapsed in the most disgraceful late season disaster in baseball history! Hoo-aaah!

As I said upthread, I don't give a shit about the payroll argument. I think it's bullshit. But would you deny that5 it has been the bread and butter argument of the Red Sox Nation lo these many years? Would you deny that Red Sox fans have been whining about the massive Yankee payroll for years and years and years, that you can barely have the Yankees win an early season game without some Red SDox fan griping about bought chaqmpionships and the like? Don't deny it, cuz you know it's true. So what's good for the goose is good for the Bosox.

You got a great team there. But if the payroll argument isn't relevant NOW, then it was never relevant, and shouldn't be relevant in the future. I only hope all the Red Sox Nation embraces this principle, now that they're the ones benefiting from massive payroll disparity. No more griping about payroll, Nation! It makes you look ridiculous.

[Phillycat]

45. I know, isn't it great??

GO SOX!!!!!!!!

[alcibiades_mystery]

48. Hoo-aah!

:-)