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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:30 PM
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DU Chefs: What's the best nonstick pan on earth?
Aside from the answer I know I'm gonna get, "any pan with a whole stick of butter in it". ;)

Dishwasher-safe. Oven proof would be a plus. And less than a million dollars, please.
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:31 PM
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1. calphalon
:)
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:32 PM
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3. Ah - but...
don't they go all funny in the dishwasher? :shrug:
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:32 PM
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2. Actually
You just gave away the problem. "Dishwasher-safe". Never, ever put a nonstick pan in the dishwasher. Same with your chef's knife or cast iron skillet.

A nonstick pan actually doesn't even require soap and water. Just wipe it off with a clean towel, and it's clean. Non-stick, remember?

The dishwasher will absolutely ruin the three items I listed.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:34 PM
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5. I disagree with at least one.
I've been putting chef's knives in dishwashers for years. Commercial ones too. And once I got past wooden handles, I never had a problem.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:35 PM
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6. Yeah, I've never had a problem running a professional knife
through even an industrial flight washer.

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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:33 PM
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4. Honestly, professionals never use 'em.
The high temperatures needed to really properly cook food tend to disintigrate the non-stick finish, - and in a manner toxic to birds and small animals by the way.

A well seasoned copper-cored sauteuse is your best friend.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:41 PM
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8. What about these new materials?
Like Anolon, or Calphalon One? Any word?
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:44 PM
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19. Maybe as an omelette pan,
But still not in the professional kitchen, still can't take the searingly high heats required to cook lean meats properly. :shrug:
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gator_in_Ontario Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:40 PM
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7. T-Fal
They are from France *ducking*....best pans I ever had....you can get them anywhere in US or Canada I think...
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:53 PM
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22. T-Fal and Caphalon
I love my T-Fal omelette pan!
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gator_in_Ontario Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:55 PM
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23. don't even need seasoning...it is non-stick!
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:55 PM
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9. Griswold #8
well seasoned...no need for dishwasher and my pan spends a lot of time in the oven...Sorry, it's the Luddite in me speaking.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:00 PM
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10. Bought my wife a set of Wolfgang Puck pans. They were the worst
The non-stick stuff started bubbling off within months. Pure junk.

Don

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Bozola Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:00 PM
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11. Cooking on Teflon is an idiotic thing to do


especially if you have birds.

Use cast iron.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:04 PM
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12. My set of old (they were my husband's great grandmothers)
perfectly seasoned, cast iron griddles...Everything comes out (literally) perfect everytime. :hi:
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morningglory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:43 PM
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15. Have to get a really old one that is perfectly smooth on the bottom.
Garage sales and pawn/junk shops. People are sophistocated about the value now and they cost about 12-18$ last time I was in the market, but you don't really have to wash them. Plain water and a scrubbie if something gets stuck. Also, they have found that women that use iron skillets do not get anemic like the teflon people. I told this to my daughter in law and she said she had always had a problem with anemia until she married our son who does most of the cooking on old iron skillets.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:45 PM
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20. Dish soap will damage them. I use a plastic scraper on mine.
:hi:
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 04:41 AM
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24. I use salt
When I finish cooking, I just drop a tablespoon or so of kosher salt in, and use my tongs and a rag to scrub. Then just wipe the salt out, and it's perfectly clean.
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Tripper11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:05 PM
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13. We just bought an 11 piece T-Fal set
and love them...pots and pans. We bought an extra 20" T-Fal and they work wonders. We don't put them in the dishwasher though. No need to because they are so easy to clean anyway. We only paid $125 all told at Bed, Bath & Beyond.
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Liberal Christian Donating Member (746 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:07 PM
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14. I love the Cooks Essentials line from QVC
I've had the hard enamel, which I liked, but just bought a set of their hard anodized.

The non-stick finish is really durable. You can use metal utensils and it won't scratch, and the cookware is a nice weight. Much better value than Calphalon for similar quality.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:27 PM
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16. I will second this set!
I have used pans of the Cooks Essentials line, and hope to procure some for myself, and that's from me, a guy who absolutely is vehemently againt non-stick. But the Cooks Essentials aren't that teflon crap non-stick, and they ARE serious, sturdy, no BS pans that re just magically non-stick, without any of the general anti-cooking effects of previous forms of non-stick.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:36 PM
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17. Well-seasoned cast iron.
Mine resembles an oil slick, and I take only moderate care of it. :-)
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 06:34 AM
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25. Yes... I like those too.
Why are they so expensive??

-- Allen
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:12 AM
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26. Because they last a lifetime. BUT!
I bought mine in a thrift store for 10 bucks. I cleaned it up; seasoned it, and it works like a charm! :thumbsup:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:36 PM
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18. What about the danger from Teflon?
This was in the news this fall. Overheated Teflon causes dangerous fumes. Carcinogenic, I think. It was scary. I put two good Iron Clad saute pans under the sink. Now I can't make an omelet!
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:46 PM
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21. You don't cook omelets at super high heats.
Go ahead and use teflon for eggs. :thumbsup:
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