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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 10:46 PM
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"How does evolution explain witches?"
:shrug:
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 10:46 PM
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1. evolution explains objective reality. Witches do not really exist.
NT
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 10:50 PM
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4. Please explain what you mean by that statement.
There are plenty of people who are witches. There are covens. It is a way of life for some people.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 11:41 AM
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40. Classical witches.
The ones that cavort with the devil, corrupt young puritan girls, and get squished by houses.

Me myself, I'm going to start a religion called "vampicca" and we're going to call ourselves "vampires" and then pretend to be obtuse when people bring up the blood-sucking undead variety.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:58 PM
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48. Bornaginhooligan, I understand what you mean by classical witches.
I am sorry if this thread confused people. I think that evolution is the truth and Not creationism. I just wanted to ask this question because it seemed silly.

I do respect Wicca, Wiccans, witches. I am sorry about that Christianity persecuted them and in some places still does... That is why I am a member of the Interfaith Alliance and we want people of all religions AND Atheists to be respected by the Law of the land.
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 12:12 AM
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50. In that case it's easy
Evolution produced humans, who love to label and sort themselves. Some have labeled themselves witches.

Witches *with supernatural powers* do not exist.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 10:50 PM
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5. DUPE!
Edited on Sun Aug-26-07 10:50 PM by elshiva

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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 10:51 PM
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6. paganism isn't the same as "magical" witches.
Magic isn't "real".
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 10:54 PM
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8. What is a "magical witch?"
Edited on Sun Aug-26-07 10:57 PM by elshiva
There are some people who do call themselves witches and some of them cast spells.

On edit: Is isn't this the difference between the statements "There is a God" and "Some people believe in a God" Science doesn't prove there is a God, but it can prove that people do believe in God.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 10:55 PM
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10. Well, right, but magic isn't real.
I mean, if we can't agree on that...I think we'd best stop this discussion.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 10:59 PM
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11. Then we will stop it.
BTW: I do believe in magic and evolution. I think creationism should NOT be taught in schools. I just did this thread because I saw the question and wondered what others thought.

Thank you for your input.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 05:52 AM
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20. It might help if you told us where you saw it
then we'd be able to explain what the person who said it was thinking.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:17 AM
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29. Right here in my sigline
Interesting that it should be the first thing I saw when I logged on.

It was asked in an anthropology class. The instructor was challenging the students to rethink their positions on science and religion - pointing out that they are based on completely different things. Most of the students were pretty uncomfortable with the idea of accepting that their religious beliefs were based on nothing more than tradition (I have no idea why since religion stresses the idea of "faith" so heavily).

Anyway, various students attempted to challenge him in return. My sigline was on of the more innovative (and hilarious) challenges.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:55 AM
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35. Ah, thank you
Perhaps Richard Dawkins needs to write a sequel to his book, for the fundies - the new one being "The Blind Witchmaker"?
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 10:51 PM
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7. Ok then...
1. Humans evolved.
2. Some of them chose to be witches.
:shrug:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 10:55 PM
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9. DING! DING! That makes sense!
You get a beer. :beer:
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 11:13 PM
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15. I don't like things with bubbles.
Can I have a kitten instead? :P
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 10:47 PM
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2. I don't know; that's one anthropology class I haven't taken.
:shrug: Am I getting the right reference here?
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 10:48 PM
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3. I don't think you can explain witches. n/t
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 11:06 PM
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12. I keep readin' this thread,
and I don't understand it.

What would evolution have to do with witches and vice versa? Is reading too much Girard clouding my thinking in some way? or

:wtf:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 11:10 PM
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13. Evolution can't even explain us, let alone our philosophical proclivities.
Or, warts, for that matter. lol
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 11:45 AM
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41. Just curious, why don't you think evolution can explain us?
It does so wonderfully.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 11:57 AM
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42. Anthropology is one of my hobbies so I'm not denying evolution.
I happen to think, though, that Darwinism doesn't fully account for things -- in other words, that there is more than that one mechanism at work -- and that would not be a god. :)
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 11:11 PM
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14. Unfortunately, the term "witch" has gotten a bad wrap over the years
the women who were burned at the stake for being "witches" were in many cases women who had wisdom in the healing arts, midwives and those who had wisdom around using plants and herbs.

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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 12:08 AM
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16. It doesn't, but the idea of a infallible creator that is the manifestation of all the is good does.
:dunce:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 12:10 AM
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17. Evolution explains the people that call themselves witches
Whatever beliefs that person has (witchcraft or exorcism, for example) comes from someplace else.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 12:12 AM
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18. How does evolution explain the duck?
:shrug:
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 12:53 AM
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19. It weighs the same as a witch
And is therefore made of wood.



Q.E.D.

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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:14 AM
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27. ROFL
See posts 24 and 26 below... :rofl:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 07:21 AM
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21. witches?
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 08:24 AM
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22. Easy.
Our ancestors that were more intelligent survived and reproduced more offspring. Over time, our intelligence attained a level where we started trying to make sense of the world. Because of this, many people took up a belief in one or more gods, some people adopted a belief in magic. Therefore, some people began to "pray" to feel like they have some control of things, some people began to "cast spells", and some people tossed the nearest virgin in the volcano when things didn't go well.



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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 08:52 AM
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23. Are you sure you don't mean wAtches?
I mean, how could there be time without some sort of intelligent designer? And then, could humans have made watches without the spark of divinity, or perhaps pralines? Do cell phones come from witches? I'm tired.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:09 AM
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24. Build a bridge out of her! nt
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:12 AM
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26. Can you not also make a bridge out of stone?
:rofl:

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:12 AM
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25. That is one of my favorite sigs.
:thumbsup:
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:19 AM
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31. Why, thank you!
It was rather fun to see it gracing someone else's thread. :rofl:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:45 AM
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33. It never fails to make me pause and ponder the reaction
that question garnered.

:hi:
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:15 AM
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28. The same way it explains christians, jews and muslims.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:18 AM
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30. A society where older women are revered for their knowledge
has an advantage over societies where this is not the case.

"witches" were knowledgeable in healing herbs, could reduce infant (and maternal mortality) by assisting with childbirth, and carried the knowledge of various crafts from generation to generation.

Their knowledge of teh natural world seemed "magical" to the males of the tribe, hence the origin of the magical withches of legend

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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:20 AM
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32. religion does not offer explanation for religion. nt.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:47 AM
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34. how does evolution un-explain them?
:shrug:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:56 AM
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36. Just as well as Intelligent Design explains Republicans
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 11:03 AM
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37. probably the more pertinent question is, how do witches explain evolution?
probably with something along the lines of "The stone becomes a plant; the plant a beast; the beast a man; and the man a god."

or perhaps as the concurrent and complementary force that occurs along with involution, the blending of these two through the process of a third, neutralizing force, being what allows for the manifestation of the cosmos.

or something.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 11:23 AM
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38. This witch has no problem with evolution.
We don't fight nature, we embrace it, the good with the bad.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 11:37 AM
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39. what does one have to do with the other?
I'm more interested in the question, "What does electricity have to do with purple?"
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 03:33 PM
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43. Witches are descended from Muggles.
Edited on Mon Aug-27-07 03:33 PM by Lilith Velkor
Don't tell the Slytherins!
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 04:26 PM
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44. That's overly simplistic
It's caused by a recessive gene which some Muggles carry.

If you get two copies of the gene, you are a witch or wizard. If you get one or no copies of the gene, you are a Muggle.

Squibs are products of either mutations on the gene or non-paternity events.

:P
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 05:39 PM
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45. How do witches explain evolution?
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 06:10 PM
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46. witches descended from the evolution of mother earth
it is an ongoing process still evolving:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:49 PM
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47. Thank you! I love witches.
:hug:
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 11:55 PM
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49. cool --
its only natural :hug:
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