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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 06:19 PM
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I'm thinking of responding to this LTTE:
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news_opinion_letters/2007/08/problem-with-li.html


Nothing pisses me off like people who support this 10 billion a month fiasco in Iraq, but don't want to pay taxes.

I'll need to cool down, so I can write something they can publish!
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 06:44 PM
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1. It's so sad to see this kind of delusion in 2007.
What I would respond with...

*Liberals seldom praise the miracle of the free market (capitalism) but invoke instead socialistic and Marxist ideas for their issues (that is, "let the government run it").

Liberals don't hate free market capitalism, we just want it to be fair and free of harmful working conditions and slave labor. It's about protecting the people not the corporations.

*They have a dim view of religion and religious values and scoff at those who utter them.

Liberals only have a dim view of those that use religion and religious values as a political tool and forget the separation between church and state.

*They don't want us to win the war on terror and constantly undermine the efforts of our commander in chief to do so. Victory, they believe, would only make President Bush look good, and they can't have that. We are all the more in danger and ultimate victory is thus prolonged.

There can be no "ultimate victory" if we are not fighting those who attacked us. OBL is still at large and Bush doesn't spend much time on him despite the deaths of 3000 Americans on 9/11.

*They hate reducing taxes and have even promised to raise them again. They fail to understand that the principle of low taxes actually brings in more revenue because the people benefit from the lower rates. It works every time, but you won't hear liberals admit it.

We don't want to raise taxes. We want to repeal the Bush tax cuts, so that the people who make the most, pay the most.

*They fail to grasp the essence of being an American. Unlike other countries of their time, our 18th Century founders, when writing our remarkable Constitution, guaranteed us personal freedom within the limits of the moral code (personal responsibility). While being protected from enemies both foreign and domestic, Americans were released to use their brains and energy to fulfill their dreams. The miracles of our progress became known worldwide. That progress proved that individuals voluntarily cooperating with each other-not government programs with high costs-can achieve great things for everyone.

From the Declaration of Independence:
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.


I am not willing to give all that up for the tyranny of a big nanny government.
But a Big Brother government, well that's different. (snark)





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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 06:47 PM
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2. great rebuttal
that last point is rich considering the spying that this government is doing, and trying to increase. I much prefer big nanny to big brother.
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 06:50 PM
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3. Me too.
At least a nanny takes care of people.

Hi, idg!

:hi::hug::loveya:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 07:14 PM
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4. Good thoughts all! Thanks!! nt
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 07:16 PM
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6. Sometimes it helps to have a jumping off point.
I hope it inspires you to tear that letter apart!

:hi:
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 07:15 PM
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5. The whole point of having a 'government'
is so that large number of people can live together.

And taxes...hasn't it occurred to these righteous wingers what taxes are FOR?
I can't afford to build a bridge. You can't afford to build a bridge. None of us singly can afford it...but all of us together can afford it.
And has anyone questioned what pays the wages of those heroic responders on 9/11?
Or the guys who pick up your trash? Or get up at dark-thirty in the winter when it's freezing-ass cold to make sure the roads are plowed?

:banghead:
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 07:19 PM
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7. I hate getting up at dark-thirty!!
Good points, especially with the ever-so-fresh tragedy of the bridge collapse.

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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 07:29 PM
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8. some of it is just ignorant or dishonest
"*They hate reducing taxes and have even promised to raise them again. They fail to understand that the principle of low taxes actually brings in more revenue because the people benefit from the lower rates. It works every time, but you won't hear liberals admit it."

Liberals will not admit it, because it just isn't true. It has not worked every time. In fact, supposed conservatives cut taxes for rich people while claiming to help the middle class.

Didn't the miracle of capitalism give us the Great Depression?

As far as Bush winning the war on Tara, the war in Iraq has put us more at risk - just like many liberals predicted.

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