Does it seem like things are snarkier at times around here (GD etc mainly) lately?

[SPKrazy]

:shrug:

I go to GD and I am amazed at threads locked because people are calling people out. We're all at least hopefully on the same team aren't we? We want the Rethugs out of office? I know I do.

So what is the deal that lately (not that there hasn't always been a good debate atmosphere in GD etc.) there seems to be more calling out? Personal attacks? I mean, I remember that one could post there and be challenged on ideas, but just called out like I've seen?

I think the mods deserve a raise (I know it is totally volunteer) for the job they do trying to moderate the forums when they are like that. I know that we've all had about as much as we can possibly stand of the B*shite regime and their lies and the unexplainable challenges they put forth etc.

I'm not just ranting, I'm really thinking that an election is coming, and while I don't think we need to be locksteppers, we'll leave that to the other side, I think that some common courtesy would be appreciated by all. Maybe the "count to 30" before you post in anger would be a good thing to do? It's saved me at work to do that. I used to reply to someone who snarked at me, but now I think, what did they really mean? Did they understand what I wanted?

In the end, this is DU and part of that is lively debate and discussion on issues that we all hold dear to our hearts. There have been a lot of contentious issues that have come and gone and some still remain that DU'ers haven't seen eye to eye on. That is GREAT! We need to see things from other's perspectives. That is what freedom is about.

I'm just talking about saying so and so is a such and such because they think this or that. :shrug:


:hi: everyone :rant:

[The Straight Story]

1. GD is the conservative branch of DU, the lounge is for the liberal hippies

hang out,smoke some dope, drink some beer, and have fun :)

[SPKrazy]

6. ROFL

that should be posted in GD :rofl:

[fizzgig]

2. count to 30?!?!?!

who are you to tell me what to do!??!?!

but seriously, i think the snark ebbs and flows. emotions, very understandably so, are running very high. that said, that doesn't preclude basic manners from all parties

[SPKrazy]

7. *Snerk*

COUNT TO 30 !!!!!1111

:rofl:

[Ptah]

3. GD reminds me of my father, and it scares me.

Disagreement is not a good hobby.

:scared:

[SPKrazy]

8. Disagreement is one thing

deliberate snarkiness and personal attacks are not good things and sure, people get emotional and do that, I was just amazed recently at some things that were going on in GD and threads locked. Mods deserve a round of applause :applause: for trying to deal with what all goes on there.

[Ptah]

10. I don't care what others say about you, SPK

:hug:

[SPKrazy]

11. thanks Ptah!

:hug:

[Ptah]

18. Rock on!

[SPKrazy]

46. thats scaring me Ptah

it seems so familiar :ofl:

[petronius]

4. It does seem that way - lots of dogpiles and thinly veiled (if at all) personal attacks

It seems like there is a higher than normal amount of personal animosity: posters or groups of posters who are at war with other posters or groups, and miss no opportunity to launch an attack...

[SPKrazy]

5. hate that stuff

probably right though

:grr:

[trof]

9. Got kinda snarky in here yesterday.

Seems to have settled down now.
Was there a full moon?
;-)

[SPKrazy]

12. see I musta missed that

but glad it settled down

:hi:

[NMDemDist2]

13. it's the heat

everyone is cranky

:hi:

[SPKrazy]

14. could be?

:hi:

[NMDemDist2]

40. it's my excuse today

it's only 80 and overcast (muggy) today, but mowing the lawn and edging kicked my @ss totally

so I'm cranky :cry:

[SPKrazy]

43. awww, cwanky cwanky

:hug:

;)

now, say the oh, never mind. my program not yours :D

[NMDemDist2]

48. ROFL

I took care of HALT and I'm feeling better.

***NOTE TO SELF**** do NOT attempt unusual amounts of physical labor with no food in your system for 24 hours, you will run out of steam quickly


:rofl:

[SPKrazy]

50. well yeah

geez, no food in yer system for 24 hours?

:wtf:

:eyes:



:spank: :spank: :spank:

[NMDemDist2]

51. i do that too often

I don't feel hungry so I don't eat :shrug:

too bad I'm not losing any weigh with that LOL

[SPKrazy]

52. hmmm, well,

probably if you ate you'd be more likely to lose weight since your body is looking out for you and hanging on to the calories.

[NMDemDist2]

53. yeah

I know that.

but dang! it's hard to eat when nothing looks/smells/sounds good yanno?

[Bullwinkle925]

15. I agree . , ,

the problem with writing out our thoughts is that we don't have any voice inflection to go along with what we say and so much can be misconstrued in other people's minds. I have some thoughts sometime that I really would like to openly discuss - or at least find out if anyone else is thinking along the same lines - but i can't even discuss it. sigh.

you're right about how discouraged and dismayed and downright disheartened we all are about the shape of things in this country. it is so outrageously sad - for us as well as the rest of the world.

[SPKrazy]

19. another good point

and when in doubt, it may be that the other person is not snarking. but when a thread title is a call out (which violates the rules anyway) that is pretty much clear what the OP meant. I'm sure there is much more that I am not privy to not hanging out in GD much, but that and several other just battles, and my own experiences there lately with being leaped on by one side or another just seems different to me.

I don't know what it is, and voice inflection, etc. is all not something captured in a post.

:hi:

[Bullwinkle925]

22. yuppers . . .

it would be nice to be able to get together in one large group and then be able to sort out those who are just ruminating from those who are just downright nasty and angry at the world. i would love to be able to 'voice' questions - totally from innocence on my part and then hear genuine thoughtful responses to such.
o well - another place, another time perchance?:pals:

[Guava Jelly]

16. i think there are many reasons for it

One of the biggest reasons imho is that if you post on a political board like this chances are you are passionate if not militant about your beliefs..And since very few Freepers hang out here we turn on each other to fill the void.We crave an adversary i think.

Now some people are just thick skinned and reactionary and that causes snark on occasion
Sometimes I think snark comes from ones own insecurities and pent up anger..ie sucky job ,crappy home life,loneliness,and even just a persons need to blow off steam..It just sucks that they feel the need to drag others down with them..
I normally avoid gd..

[SPKrazy]

17. i do too, but i remember hanging out there in the past

and thinking then it was just a lot of infighting but now, it seems even more so. Maybe that is because my perspective has changed. Or maybe it truly is more? :shrug:

good thoughts on it though and I agree with you.

:hi:

[undeterred]

20. GD is FREAKING ME OUT!!!!!!!

They're beating up on Russ Feingold, talking about genital mutilation (are women human?), discussing cancer and wife killing and beating on Russ Feingold because after all, he's the only one who has come close to talking impeachment SO LETS ALL GET IN A CIRCLE AND SHOOT!!! :rant:

[SPKrazy]

23. Yeah, that is kinda what I mean!

I mean yeah, we are emotional beings at the end of our rope with this, but the idea of standing in a circle and shooting is a good analogy!

:hi:

[undeterred]

24. Its the Democratic firing squad.

[SPKrazy]

25. yeah it is

designer vaginas and genital mutilation, i had to go check that out :eyes:

and the attacks on Feingold :wtf:

oh well, shoot 'em all, eh?

:shrug:

[undeterred]

30. are you going to get one?

:bounce:

[SPKrazy]

33. not personally :P

:rofl:

[LadyAziz]

21. GD is so weird

You can tell before clicking a topic if it is going erupt into a flamewar. But what surprises me is how one thing is said and the entire thread goes up in flames. You can't have a lively debate with other "adults" in there, it just turns Jr High School with all the cliques, bullies, nerds, outsiders etc...

Pathetic!

thank God I don't post in GD, I don't know if I can handle the name-calling and BS.

[SPKrazy]

26. interesting, many would say the lounge is like Jr. High

but I think we are the best part of it for the most part if that is the case.

:hi:

edited subj line

most to many

[Maddy McCall]

27. The difference in GD and the Lounge is t hat..

GD swipes are usually not personal--based more on disagreement on issues than on dislike for the poster (with exceptions, of course).

In the lounge, the snark is usually personal and meant to be hurtful. Many times it's grounded in real-life differences. Sometimes the history of lounge hostilities goes back years. :eyes:

That's why, usually, GD differences are short-lived, but Lounge issues seem to last for years.

The worst I've ever seen, though, was during the primary in 2004. God was it a mess. DU had a five-warnings-and-you're-banned rule back then, and people were trying to provoke others into breaking the rules so that they'd get banned. Also, people were actually digging up posts in the archives to alert on, in an attempt to get their adversaries banned. None of it was personal...it was all about "You don't like my candidate, and I don't like yours, so screw you." It was the ugliest period in DU history. I'm betting that, since DU has more than tripled in size since then, that it's going to be even uglier this primary season. :scared:

[SPKrazy]

28. it's shaping up to be

and yes i know about the adversaries in the lounge, and there appear to be some in the GD, but it is to me, a little snarkier, maybe not. I lurked back in 2004 and didn't post. It was a mess.

:hi:

[Maddy McCall]

31. I think that...

GD isn't anywhere near as cliquish, and that's why most disagreements are short-lived. I said MOST. :D

But in the lounge, grudges last forever. The "innocent" posts that are meant to jab a particular, targeted DUer while pulling in DUers who don't know the background of a situation have become the biggest nuissance.

(Don't know if you read Salin's post a couple of months ago--she's a well-respected long-time DUer who posted about it and said that she was considering never coming back to the lounge because of the nastiness that was going on at that time. She's always been above lounge controversy, and she identified every problem in the lounge in that post, even though she's not in the PM-circuit or posting on the off-DU boards where many of the problems originated.)

It wasn't always like this in the lounge. Salin recognized it. Others have, too, and are very uncomfortable/unhappy about it.

But I guess that's just the way it is.

[SPKrazy]

35. okay, will you tell your frog to quit grinning at me ;)

or i'll form a grudge :P

i understand what you say and know that it is true

maybe another factor is the huge growth on DU?

that has to be an issue.

:shrug:

[LadyAziz]

54. Hmmmmm

What cliques exist in the Lounge?

[Maddy McCall]

58. You'll figure it out.

Good luck.

[SPKrazy]

60. it is something that you will see if you hang here

and you can watch and stay out of it, or get in the middle of it and prolly be sorry you did that.

:hi:

if i haven't said it already

WELCOME TO DU!!!!! :yourock: :hi:

[applegrove]

29. We are perhaps all angry and tired.

[SPKrazy]

32. true that is likely

i am

attacking each other won't help us in the long run

:hi:

;)

[applegrove]

39. Nope. We need to find a balance in our lives. Cause this fight is going to be a long

one. Sixteen months away. It is good we stop and talk about it every so often.

:hi:

[SPKrazy]

42. always good to talk to you applegrove!

:hi:

;)

[applegrove]

45. Thanks.

[deadparrot]

34. I've been spending a lot less time on DU lately for that very reason.

People, for whatever reason, just seem to be nasty to each other. And with the upcoming election, I can't see it getting better anytime soon. The Lounge is, at times, like being back in junior high, and GD, on the rare occasion that I enter, is just shrieky-hysterical. My final year of college is coming up, which means graduate school, visa, and internship applications atop a normal courseload. At this point, I really don't need any additional stress.

[SPKrazy]

37. yes, a message board shouldn't become a stressor

if it does, it needs to be dropped off for a while i suppose

good luck with your grad school etc.

:hi:

[deadparrot]

41. Thanks.

:hi:

In all honesty, I was never involved in the feuds, and I still don't have a completely clear idea of the full story. But when four of the five threads you click turns into a completely unrelated flamewar, it makes writing my statement of purpose look downright appealing. :)

[SPKrazy]

44. and much more important in the scheme of things!

:hi:

[deadparrot]

56. True enough.

:)

[judaspriestess]

36. there is definitely some narcissistic posters in GD

its all about them and their superior opinion being better than everyone else's :eyes:

[SPKrazy]

38. ahem, my opinion about that is this

that you are spot on! :D

[taterguy]

47. Perhaps it's due to the desire for attention / reaction

I made a few posts today that sank like stones. I was bored and thought to myself: Is anyone paying attention to me?

I started a thread about a couple sacred cows and watched the sparks fly.

I admit, I enjoyed that.

[SPKrazy]

49. aha! the boredom factor

coupled with the love of a good fight to watch :rofl:

you are responsible you you you!!!!!

:grr:

[taterguy]

55. I'm guessing I'm not the only one

Just the only one dumb enough to admit it :)

[SPKrazy]

61. surely you aren't

:D

okay

i've done that in that forum and in some others here on du :yoiks:

(R/T is fun to do that in :yoiks: )

:rofl:

i haven't done that in a long time though

more fun to goof off in the lounge :D

[lost-in-nj]

57. hey

Have you been channeling hypnotoad??
or take one of those philosophy pills???
Things are getting heavy in here.....


:hi: :hug:

lost

[SPKrazy]

59. rofl

i lurve hypnotoad, i don't know about channeling him though :rofl:


:hi:

:hug:

just a more serious post i guess :shrug:

;)

[havocmom]

62. Moles, trolls, partisan hacks getting nervous & under pressure to get us under control.

And there are too many radio waves in the air. The chem trails are full of cooties.

Oh, and Hershey's has been bought out and you can't get a chocolate bar at the store. They have brown wax, but they're all outta chocolate.

[SPKrazy]

63. gotcha!

scary but i understand all of that.

:shrug:



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