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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:49 AM
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Never read Hamlet. Never seen it.
No version of it... stage, screen. Never heard a radio broadcast of it.

Never read the play. Never read any adaptation of it.

Hamlet who?
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Omphaloskepsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:02 AM
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1. Me too... I worked at a movie theater when it came out...
Fickin thing was 4+ hours long. I never watched the damn thing. I was a projectionist and it had an fucking intermission. Four plus hours.. Fuck me.. That sucked. The fucking thing made me work ten hour shifts..
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:03 AM
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2. Then MonkeyFunk, you must be banned from this earth!
:rofl:
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 06:05 AM
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3. Cultural opportunity:
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:30 AM
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4. Some of the best Renaissance period snark in existence
And no, not the "it occureth, lo! in rusty lunar tides!" kind of period.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:32 AM
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5. Point?
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:33 AM
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6. Probably to say he's never read, heard or seen Hamlet
Now get thee to a nunnery.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:15 PM
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12. Yessir
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:48 AM
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7. It's actually pretty cool...
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 11:49 AM by gmoney
Good literary touchstone, as it's referred to all the time. For instance, the Bob and Doug MacKenzie movie "Strange Brew" is based on Hamlet, except instead of the Castle Elsinore in Denmark, it's the Elsinore Brewery that's the bone of contention. Bob and Doug are sort of folded into the story, and it's a real fun movie.

That, and the fun movie "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead" is enhanced by a basic understanding of the story of Hamlet. Great idea for a play/movie, take two incidental characters from a major work and write their backstory and expand upon it.

A good weekend's viewing is the Mel Gibson "Hamlet" (I know, I know, but it's fairly digestible and a little over 2 hours. Follow that with "R & G are Dead" and then "Strange Brew."

Or you could watch a bunch of them Ernest movies again...
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:03 PM
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8. So, you've never seen The Lion King?
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:09 PM
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9. Believe it or not, Mel Gibson was a pretty good Hamlet.
Glenn Close as Gertrude, Kate Winslet as Ophelia

I recommend it.

Kenneth Branagh's was good too. His adaptation ran the entire play, while many adaptations omit the war/Fortinbras part.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:13 PM
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11. I've been told Branagh's was great
but I've never seen it available on DVD.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:00 PM
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16. It's supposedly going to be released before the end of the year.
I'm in a Shakespeare academic listserve discussion group, and one of our members is "in the industry," as they say, and has been keeping us updated RE the DVD's (long, long overdue) release.

Branagh's got major balls just for doing the entire (folio) text. What a beast--but a very good one. Can't wait to watch it again.

And there are parts of the Zefferelli/Gibson Hamlet that were very good (and parts that are dreadful); I have mixed feelings about that one.

The most interesting adaptation of Hamlet I've ever seen is the BBC's, with Derek Jacobi as Hamlet and Patrick Stewart as Claudius. Instead of making Claudius an obvious villain and Hamlet an obvious hero, they make it ambiguous (and the text certainly allows for that). Fascinating.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:16 PM
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21. LET ME KNOW WHEN!
A PM will do!
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:53 PM
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26. That explains why I can't find it! Meanwhile, the Ethan Hawke version is great.
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 01:56 PM by Orsino
Modern dress. Bill Murray as Polonius. Sam Shepard as the ghost. Kyle MacLachlan as Claudius.

I give props to the Gibson version, too. He's the weak link, but he's still good.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:05 PM
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28. I think Helena Bonham-Carter's scenes as Ophelia after she goes mad are incredible.
So were Kate Winslet's in the Branagh Hamlet, but I think HBC portrays much better that she's being mindfucked by Hamlet AND her dad (and then we see the consequences). And I LOVE Ian Holm as Polonius.
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SecularMotion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:18 PM
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31. It's available on Aug. 14th
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 02:21 PM by SecularMotion
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:29 PM
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33. The person who owns/runs Poor Yorick is our "informant" I mentioned...
...on the academic listserve. I need to watch my email digests more closely!
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:24 AM
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41. Yes, it was. Can't wait until the DVD comes out. n/t
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:11 PM
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10. The Chauffer did it
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:54 PM
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27. And everyone (well, almost) dies at the end
Hamlet in a nutshell -

Young man's inability to act decisively results in lots of deaths.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:17 PM
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13. Well, you should.
:hi:

RL
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:44 PM
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14. Never mind, its just Shakespeare.
How good could it be?

Gibson plays it pretty well i hate to admit, Brannagh is too serious IMO, and they are both way too old. Hamlet is just a kid, but where do you get a teenager to pull it off?
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:55 PM
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15. Macbeth is superior...
:thumbsup:
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:10 PM
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17. and about elevendy jillion lines shorter
all told, I probably prefer Othello over both of them.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:15 PM
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20. Ever see the Ian McKellan/Judi Dench version of MacBeth?
Oh my god.

$17.99 on dvd and worth $179.99.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:21 PM
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22. I concur...
it was a most excellent version of it. But with Sir Ian and Dame Judi, how can you go wrong?
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:28 PM
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32. About right on that.
They could turn "Ma and Pa Kettle" into high art.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:13 PM
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19. That I've read
and seen.

It's a good 'un.
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:12 PM
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30. I've always heard King Lear
was the best of the trajedies. I prefer The Bridges of Madison County.
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 04:47 PM
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39. plus a hell of a lot shorter!!
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 04:52 PM
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40. Which is of course a contributing factor to its greatness
:D
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:12 PM
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18. So many GREAT quotes.
"Tho this be madness there is method in 't."

The smartest thing Polonius says in the whole play.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:26 PM
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23. To be ignorant, or not to be ignorant
that is the question
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:38 PM
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24. Shakespeare was a hack. The Harold Robbins of his generation.
:boring:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:47 PM
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25. I DON'T think so!
:nuke:
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:11 PM
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29. Ever eaten it?
I have.

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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:34 PM
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34. That's good for you....
you can go and see it, or read it, without anyone requiring it of you.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:23 PM
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35. Who was euric??? nt
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:41 PM
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36. why oh why?
:cry:

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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:47 PM
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37. Watch Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100519/



Probably Oldman and Roth at their funniest.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 04:45 PM
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38. Hamlet sounds like something for breakfast.
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