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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 10:32 AM
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Hey, how come nobody raves about "Loveless" any more?
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 10:44 AM
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1. Because everyone lacks vision and sucks.
I hear that the ringer Melinda Doolittle got voted off of "Idol," though.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:06 AM
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2. Fuckity.
What kind of world is this?
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:08 AM
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3. Uh...have we met?
:shrug:
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:10 AM
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4. We have in my dreams,
below the waist.
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:16 AM
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5. Were we listening to Loveless?
Edited on Thu May-17-07 11:19 AM by dolo amber
Sexytimes. B-)
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:32 AM
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8. In the immortal words of Jeri Blank,
"I'd wake up with blood on my ass and then we'd get high."
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:19 AM
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6. Because it's incredibly monotonous and over-produced
Melodically it's a series of slow-moving nursery rhymes, only layered with eighty guitars and some really tinny, bored-sounding singing. MBV's abysmal cover of Wire's "Map Ref" shows how crap that style can be even with something that doesn't suck melodically to begin with.

It's good, but not worth raving about in my view.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:24 AM
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7. Yeah, definitely a propeller.
x(
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:38 AM
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10. Bilinda sings, what, like six notes in total through the whole album?
:D

Some of the guitar noises are neat.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:46 AM
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12. Joey Ramone sang four notes for his whole career.
I don't see what that has to do with anything. :P
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:49 AM
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14. Yeah, but not like Elizabeth Fraser on qualudes trapped in a metal box
Well, sort of like that actually.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:07 PM
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17. What the hell....
..is a Cock Toe anyway?
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:13 PM
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20. You shut your filthy whore mouth about Joey Ramone!
The man was a god.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:10 PM
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28. WHOA!
I LOVE the Ramones, the Jewish one most of all!
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:32 PM
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29. Yeah I knew that.
I just wanted to say "filthy whore mouth" without getting deleted.

:bounce:

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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:44 PM
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31. Start an Anchorman thread!


You dirty pirate hooker.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:15 PM
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35. Why don't you go back to your home on Whore Island?
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:06 PM
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33. I was just now told it would have been Joey Ramone's birthday today.
Huh.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:11 PM
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34. I never liked him.
He once kicked a hole in the styrofoam beer cooler in our dressing room, spilling it's contents everywhere.

I never forgave him for that.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:17 PM
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36. Aw, styrofoam beer coolers break with the wind, so to speak
Plus it was Joey Ramone--that kick probably had half a joule behind it for fuck's sake. Time to bury the hatchet.
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 12:28 PM
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39. He spilled my drink at an after-hours, after last call
Big freakishly tall jerk. x(

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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:33 AM
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9. Just be about your business, old man.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:40 AM
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11. Thread-shitting is my business
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:49 AM
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13. And business is good
:thumbsup:
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:52 AM
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15. I just want attention
:cry:
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:22 PM
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22. aw, don't cry jp
slow core, but missing the core.....
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:05 PM
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16. And by 'nobody' you must mean....
The Lounge.

Who's got time to discuss MBV when we're trying to decide on china patterns?
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:09 PM
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18. I've got time! But yeah, it's true lots of folks still put it up as the best album of the 90s
Edited on Thu May-17-07 12:10 PM by jpgray
I think on Rate Your Music (though many of the site's rankings are biased by obsessive fans) it's rated #1 for '91.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:13 PM
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19. They'll get no argument from me.
I love it. I remember spending time in a studio around 92-93 trying to replicate that guitar sound. We were doing things like using a whammy bar to bend up to a chord and then punching in, in the middle of the bend. And then doing that about 10 times in a song, and on 4 or 5 guitar tracks.

Great fun.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:25 PM
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23. It's just such a chore to listen to the same gimmick for 44 minutes
I was convinced it was just an album that grows on you, but after listening to it a few dozen times over several years I'm sure I just don't like it, and won't. Except for the throwaway crappiness of "Touched," you have the same wall-o-guit and anemic, minimal melodies throughout. Laughing Stock from the same year kicks the crap out of it, in my view.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:37 PM
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30. Try fucking to it.
S'all I'm sayin'.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 06:09 PM
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37. The whole thing? Beyond my means
:P
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:20 PM
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21. nice to see those
evidently some hallucinogenic state is helpful for a few of em, though.... ;)
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:54 PM
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24. I think I like that video so much because of her big LSD pupils.
v. attractive.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 01:20 PM
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26. you need to be on acid to see that first vid....
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:56 PM
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25. no love for the loveless
ain't that how it goes

nobody to cry
bout
my troubles and woes

:P


















:yoiks:
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:01 PM
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27. two words: American Idol
we're a nation of philistines, dontcha know
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:53 PM
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32. All nations are to some extent. Take Pat Boone, or David Hasselhoff's success in Europe
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 12:25 PM
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38. Greatest album of the 90s (I was just listening to it)
and I still listen to it at least once a month.

This record was my Fall 1991 soundtrack when I lived in London. I also caught MBV at First Ave, on the Loveless tour in the spring of 1992 when I was back in the states. It was one of the best and loudest shows I've ever seen-- even louder than Sonic Youth.

Never mind the haters, Loveless rocks

/ get off my lawn ya damn kids
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