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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:31 PM
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I got an earful from a prolifer about getting a rescued cat an abortion
Sigh.

I get a call asking if I can help by picking up a cat in my town. Turns out the the "barn cat" that is "wild" is a sweet baby who likes to sleep on my daughter's pillow but I digress.

Seems Sweetie was pregnant. I palpatated her belly but didn't feel any kittens so I was pretty sure that she was pregnant. Well, off to the vet she went to get fixed. The vet confirmed that she was pregnant but the rescue organization has no more slots. They are "full up" with kitties right now.

Well, prior to taking her to the vet to get fixed, I got a call from one of the women in the rescue group asking if the cat was pregnant. I told her that I wasn't sure. She started going on and on about letting the cat have her kittens. She said, "I know that you think that I'm impractical since we have all of these kitties but I just can bear in my heart the thought of killing those precious, precious unborn kittens. I think that she should be allowed to have her babies. Please let me know if she is pregnant and I will take her to someone who will let her have her kittens."

Oooookay...

I paid the vet almost $200 to have the cat tested so I could bring her into my home with Jasper and Jill. Then I paid another $200 for every other service under the sun for her including the spay and kitty abortion. She is MY cat at this point so I'm trying not to get mad at this woman who calls me TWO MORE TIMES to tell me to let Sweetie (the cat) have her kittens.

I finally lied and told her that Sweetie wasn't pregnant. I feel bad for lying but really, I just don't think that bringing those kittens into the world was the right thing. We were already stuffed to the gills with grown cats and kittens.

Ugh. I'm not relaying all that this woman said but I can honestly say that I expected her to come to my house with posters of aborted kitten fetuses. She was that serious.

Anyway, the cat is a part of the family now. I hope to have pics of her soon. She takes turns sleeping on my daughter's head and then her pillow. She is a sweet, sweet baby. :D
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:42 PM
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1. Kitten mortality
for "wild" cats is 70%. I know this because I volunteer with a feline rescue group. Did she have homes for all the kittens? Would she take them in herself? Or was she just being an annoying self righteous buttinsky? I suspect the latter.

Maybe she can picket the local pound where they euthanize all the unwanted dogs, cats, puppies and kittens. Some of the people who do animal rescue get a bit weird. They feel they are on some mission to save every unwanted critter out there. I'd have a houseful of critters if I succumbed to that. You do the best you can.

Good for you to take the critter in. You did the right thing.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:46 PM
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3. She has too many now - that's why I got called
I had 2 prior to Sweetie. I wasn't going to keep her but she is so sweet that I couldn't resist. :loveya:

She knew that we didn't have homes for the one cat much less more kittens. We had no one to take Sweetie. No one.

Sometimes the self-righteousness of others gets so exhausting. :eyes:

I love my new addition! I couldn't think any other name that fit better!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:57 PM
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6. I've got 4 cats
One I paid money for 10 years ago, a British Shorthair. 2 are feral rescues I've had since they were 3 weeks old (they are almost 8 years old now) and one just showed up one day 5 years ago and wouldn't leave. I do what I can, trapping and recovering but I can't take in any more kitties. I've had to say 'no' so many times it hurts. I won't feel guilty for saying no. I figure I do more than most of the general population as far as animal rescue. If someone thinks I don't do enough, well that's their problem.

Good for you for doing your part. Sweetie is a lucky kitty. :-)

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:08 PM
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9. And she has a naked belly!
She rolls over and lets me rub that naked belly, too!!

:rofl:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:45 PM
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2. I'm in awe of you.
What you did was generous and kind. Thank you for spending your time and money to see that the cat has a good home and that a bunch of unwanted kittens won't be euthanized for lack of good homes for them.

Shelters are overflowing with pregnant cats and kittens right now. The alernative you chose was the best.


:hug:
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:48 PM
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4. Aww, thanks. It wasn't easy, though
I love kitties just as much as the next cat lover but I knew that I couldn't keep them and who would take them? The vet even charged an extra $50 for the abortion.

I couldn't afford the vet bills but if you could see this cat, you'd understand. She is a doll-baby. :)

No matter. She has a forever home with us. The kids love her and I love her, too. :loveya:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:52 PM
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5. Posters of aborted kitten fetuses!!! LOL!!
That's just wacky.

You did the right thing! I helped to found a Humane Society when living in Iowa, and fostered cats before we could afford a shelter. There was NEVER enough room for all the cats. You were great to take Sweetie in. And no, the world doesn't need more kittens.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:07 PM
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8. Hey, you should have heard her
It was freaky. Very, very freaky!! :scared:

It makes me sad to think of all the cats out there on the mean streets. x(

I need to get pictures of my new addition to share!
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:05 PM
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7. Wow. "Kitty" and "abortion" in the same sentence.
Never knew anything about that :crazy:
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:09 PM
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10. When kitty abortions are outlawed, you know what that means
Back-alley kitty abortions!
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:11 PM
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11. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
What worries me is the crazy fundies who can so easily get guns, bombs, and the names and addresses of kitty abortionists!
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:23 PM
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12. Oh, crap! I didn't think about that
I must warn the vet. He'll have to go underground! :scared:
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 11:13 PM
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13. Typical Pro-Liar
How many adorable, sweet kittens are euthanized every day because there aren't enough homes for them? How many die under cars, by dogs, or due to disease because some ass had to experience "the miracle of birth" and then let the kittens stray? If she could find a home that woud "let" her have her kittens, why doesn't she find homes for, say, six kittens in a kill shelter?

Man, pro-liars make my ass tired.

You, on the other hand, rock. Congrats on the new kitty! She sounds irresistable!
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 07:58 AM
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16. Several months ago, I saw a dead kitten on the side of the road
Edited on Wed Apr-18-07 07:58 AM by arnheim
It was a little bitty thing, solid black. There aren't enough homes.

Yes, the hypocrisy is overwhelming. People are just pro-birth. They should quit pretending unless they adopt all of those kittens out there that won't have a home otherwise.

Sweetie rocks. She is the best cat. You should see her on catnip! :rofl:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 11:43 PM
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14. Sweetie is a member of your family
and it is none of the other lady's business.

Don't you let her bother you, thank you for taking Sweetie in and for giving her such care.

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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 07:56 AM
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15. That's right. Sweetie is our cat now
She chose us from the minute we let her out of the crate that she was in. She flopped at my feet, climbed in my lap and rubbed her head against my face. :loveya:

I do hate lying to that woman though but I wasn't about to give Sweetie back to anyone.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:01 AM
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18. don't feel bad for that lie
Lying feels bad, but this was the time to- that lady's just unreasonable.
Sweetie is lucky to have you taking care of her, all you've done for her is exactly what she needs!
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:05 AM
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19. Wasn't really a lie
Sweetie was no longer pregnant right? I know it's a technicality but the lady sounds like a nut job and prolifers (kitty prolifers no less) can be pretty scary.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:18 AM
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20. She was very earnest and sincere
but honestly, where would I take the kittens? The shelter? They are filled to the busting point.

A friend of mine says that the lady is a nut job, too. LOL. She won't take the woman's calls anymore.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:19 AM
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21. Thanks. We are lucky to have her.
She's too sweet for words. :loveya:
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 08:03 AM
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17. I volunteer to have feral cats spayed and neutered...
There are lots in my neighborhood. I work with a group that catches them with Hav-A-Hart traps, then neuters them and releases them back where they found them. Many female cats are pregnant and the kittens have to be aborted; There's really no use in letting a feral cat have more kittens who will just wind up being feral themselves.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:25 AM
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23. I agree. I guess I just never thought about it.
The vet was pretty matter-of-fact about it. He says that it's common to have cats brought in pregnant and still spay them. I had just never thought about it because every cat that I've ever owned (except for my first cat) was spayed or neutered.

All of the staff at the vet kept telling us what a sweet cat she was. She purred and rubbed all over everyone there.

After the spaying, she was rail-thin, though. I'm trying to get her fattened up.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:23 AM
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22. I'm going to get flamed for this, and probably quoted on FR
Edited on Wed Apr-18-07 09:23 AM by bertha katzenengel
The thought of feline abortion bothers me more than the thought of a woman's abortion. Maybe because many vets will do it when the mother's almost at full term. Maybe because the cat is sentient yet can't consent or fight it off. :shrug:

On edit: I do not judge you for the decision you made. You did what you needed to do. No judgement. Above is just my feelings.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:29 AM
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24. My vet said that they don't like to do them after a certain point
I couldn't feel the kittens when I rubbed her tummy. If I could have felt them, I don't know if I could have let the vet perform the operation.

The vet felt her tummy and he couldn't really tell, either.

Yes, I'm sure that you will get quoted on FR. You can expect all types of pro-lifers at your house sometime soon! :rofl:
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:41 AM
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25. "You can expect all types of pro-lifers at your house sometime soon" ---
and I wonder if I'll get crap for the sterilizations I do. After all I am preventing new life. Why, that's just as bad as aborting a blastocyst.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 10:24 AM
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27. My vet will only do it in the real early stages of pregnancy. She
says it's to risky to do it later on.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 10:19 AM
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26. Where do they stop? I think telling her the kitty wasn't pregnant
was the best thing to do. It's definitely best for kitty that she's fixed and there's no point in making a big to do over it with someone who just doesn't understand. I've had a few of my girls (dogs and cats) fixed when they were pregnant over the years and didn't feel bad about it at all and I doubt that they missed a thing.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 01:09 PM
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30. I don't know where they stop. I was shocked, to tell you the truth
With all of the violence and hatred in the world, this lady spent a lot of time on this. It boggles the mind.

Sweetie seems fine. Her little personality has only gotten sweeter.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:11 PM
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28. If Sweetie decides she wants to become a Mother....
You can always adopt.

However, I've observed that cats are too busy ruling their "Owners" to worry about might-have-beens.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 01:07 PM
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29. I'm hoping that she'll adopt Jill, the 1 year old
Jill so wants to play with Sweetie but Sweetie wants nothing to do with her other than growling at her.

Jasper comes up to her and she hisses at him. He'll usually look at her like she's crazy and walk off. He's a perfect gentleman around the ladies.

Sweetie doesn't seem as though she's missing anything. She's too busy getting spoiled rotten.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 01:50 PM
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31. They will get that all sorted out in time.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 02:09 PM
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32. You know, if the so-called "pro-lifers" would simply re-direct all that fanatical energy
to ending the war in Iraq, do you have any idea how many lives would be saved?

Just asking...
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 02:52 PM
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33. If all of the prolifers would channel that energy into adoption, counseling, pre-natal care, etc
think about how much more "pro life" they would really be. :eyes:
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 02:57 PM
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34. Amen, sister.
:thumbsup:
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