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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 10:54 AM
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Stupid Fucking exec. director
Our elevators are down today. So I open the door to the stairwell and up he is coming. 50lbs overweight and sweating like a pig. So I hold the door open for him and he does not even say thank-you. How is that for inspiring loyalty of the troops.


DEMMAN
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Galley_Queen Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 10:58 AM
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1. Amazing, Isn't it?
I used to think that people in high places got there because they were smarter than the rest of us. I have to admit though, that was my opinion in my 20's. Now having been in the workforce for 30+ years, I understand that many times the most ignorant, obnoxious and intellectually challenged individuals many times rise to the top.

Lack of manners, lack of brains.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:00 AM
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3. you are promoted based on how incompetent you are...
i learned that a few years ago....

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I AM SPARTACUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:07 AM
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7. well, you've certainly heard that feces floats to the surface...
at least as often as not...
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:00 AM
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2. should have offered him a smoke and some French fries
hasten his death by heart failure.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:03 AM
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4. Irks me too
When anybody ignores a door held open for them, I usually wait until it's quite apparent they aren't going to say anything, then, while they are still within earshot, I say, "You're welcome." (In a nice way, just as if they had thanked me.)
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:05 AM
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6. Same here
I usually get a sheepish "thank you".
Rudeness really get my goat.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:05 AM
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5. Corporate state = the New Feudal Kingdom
CEOs, Managers, Execs, they aren't like the common folk. We are supposed to be amazed that they even grace us with their presense. To expect gratitude from them when you serve them is foolish. You are their wage serf. You are the new modern peasant. Now work fool.
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:07 AM
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8. Maybe he couldn't SAY anything since he was so tired?
Edited on Fri Aug-01-03 11:10 AM by DagmarK
Or was so embarrassed to be seen panting like he was (since he is sooooo out of shape).

It is not a pleasant experience to be 50 pounds overweight in this country. People staring and jeering (and they DO!). And the cross of shame that they are made to wear. It's really horrible for a lot of people every single day. No matter what their position is.

I don't know.....I'd cut the guy a break on this one......... All the way up he was probably PRAYING that no one else would come into the stairwell.

And imagining that if someone did, they'd be thinking, "look at that fat pig trying to make it up those stairs! If he had some self-control and integrity and character, he wouldn't be so damn fat!"

and then blammo.....there you are...and his cover was totally blown.

I opt to go with that belief ...... cause this is one cruel world for anyone who has the "AUDACITY" to weigh more than they should!


(doesn't mean he isn't a jerk......I wouldn't know.)
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:08 AM
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9. He probably was so out of breath, he couldn't get the words out!
Whenever we have that problem here, people are seriously winded when they climb the stairs! And, I work in a building that has as its major tennant, THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH!!! What an un-healthy bunch they are, on average!
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:08 AM
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10. I'll stick my head out here and say:
maybe he was too out of breath, fighting a heart attack to properly thank you. Fatigue can kill any good manners that might have existed.
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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:12 AM
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11. I can agree on the weight issue
but there is no excuse for bad manners


DEMMAN
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:16 AM
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12. You are showing yours. What ever happened to doing something nice
and considerate for someone "just because"? Without expecting people, let alone your boss to do cartwheels because little Johnny remembered to say Thank you at the appropriate time? I recently experienced sever anemia, and believe me, manners were the last thing on my mind, when climbing stairs. Try "one foot in front of the other without passing out" !!!!!!
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:19 AM
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13. I am guessing there is probably a history of rudeness involved here.
Kind of like when my husband's bosses (he is a skilled tradesman, CNC programmer, CadCAM) order him to make coffee as if he is the shop lackey. It gets rather irksome when repeated incessantly.

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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:19 AM
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14. wrongo
I do not expect it. I believe it should be automatic. Even with a bunch of pins sticking out of my legs a couple years ago. I always remembered to say thank-you or no thank-you or please.


DEMMAN
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:21 AM
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15. Then you have never been 50 lbs overweight, probably with other health
problems, hauling yourself up flights of stairs. The polite thing would have been to hold the elevator door and ask if he was all right.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:24 AM
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16. As a person who has suffered quite a share of health issues in the past
couple of years, I have to agree that saying thank you for any kindness should be automatic, but then we don't live in a world like that. It's a Me society.
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Galley_Queen Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:25 AM
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17. I'm Sure He Would Not Have Appreciated
a subordinate asking him if he 'was alright'. Overweight or not, a thank you is appropriate and a show of good manners and upbringing, not to mention good human resource relations (PR).
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:32 AM
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18. You had the BREATH to say thank you. He might not have been able to.
A pounding heartrate, near heart attack can keep a person from thinking about etiquette.
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Galley_Queen Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:37 AM
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19. If He Was In Such Bad Shape
that he couldn't say thank you, or at least nod his head, then he damn well shouldn't have been climbing steps.

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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:25 PM
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26. Translation: If you're fat, just stay away......we can't make accomodation
for lazy fat people. Why should we?

Errrgg...the intolerance and hate in this thread is astounding.

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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 01:18 PM
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28. But the elevator was out
how else was he supposed to get upstairs?

All that being said, if I'm too out of breath to thank someone (I have asthma, so it happens sometimes), I do at least smile and nod before I faint.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:39 AM
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20. Man, this is like a lesson in how quickly a post can get out of hand.
It was just a comment I think. I've been there, and it's irritating when people are rude. I highly doubt the man was in the throes of a heart attack. Let Demman be upset.
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:31 PM
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27. Guess what Demman.....I bet TODAY given your attitude.....
Edited on Fri Aug-01-03 12:33 PM by DagmarK
that you will undoubtedly NOT extend the requisite courtesy to SOMEONE. I don't know who. But I would bet that maybe on a phone call or something you will cut short and lose site of all that upbringing...... Just from the fact that you are all pissed off.

In fact, you may not notice some poor lady with a car full of screaming kids trying to merge into traffic...as you are sitting there at the light -- with the FULL ABILITY to take notice that another person could use the courtesy of you NOT pulling up to block the exit from that parking lot. You will still be fuming and scriptwriting in your head about the big fat rude exec bossman and everything everyone on DU said.

Might not happen.....but it's realistic that you could MISS the opportunity to extend a courtesy just beause your MIND was someplace else. Happens ALL THE TIME. Thing is.....we don't realize we missed that opportunity to offer a courtesy. We never know it. If we did, we would have let that person merge into traffic. And who knows.....that hypothetical woman...will probably bitch about you to her hubby at the supper table as she explains what a harried day she had and how brutal the traffic was and how darned rude other drivers are.

So, I think you are DELUDED when you say I NEVER DO X......

And the bottom line.....people are just people...they do the best they can. They get distracted. BIG DEAL........
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:21 PM
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24. Demman.....there *is* an excuse for perceived bad manners.........
Edited on Fri Aug-01-03 12:22 PM by DagmarK
And it is the weight issue and being too out of shape to handle the stairs......and probably a whole lotta things that you will never know about this man. You sound just like average america....."yeah, I understand people being fat.....but that's no excuse." What break are you giving him???????

Does he walk around all the time being the personification of RUDE?

Have you ever been so focused on something in your mind that you don't even notice the world around you? His brother could have died last week..... or .....any number of things.

But you obviously are all pissed off that you extended yourself to him...and he didn't do HIS part by SHOWING appreciation for you. And I wonder......what is the point of extending courtesy to other people when there are strings attached?

If he were not in a high position and was, say, the janitor, would this piss you off?

Maybe you should shut the door on extending courtesies to people in lofty positions.

I am sorry...per your description, he was really tuckered out. Give him a break and be grateful that you can sprint up those stairs without losing any ground. But for the grace of god go I type of thing.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:48 AM
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21. So sorry, excuse me, yes, Demman can have his unfettered rant.
But I'd be willing to bet that he/she is young and in fairly good shape, as are some of the others on the thread who are wanting to skewer the boss for his lapse of manners. Wait 'til you're old and have some serious health problems.... or better yet, work in a nursing home for a while. There are more serious issues to life than whether someone thanked you for holding a door open.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:50 AM
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22. Unfortunately, as stated above, I have had extremely serious health
problems at a relatively young age. I guess my point is, I have always been able to utter thank you. It's common courtesy, and I'll state again, I seriously doubt the man was in need of CPR.

Just my opinion, I hope as I get older (33 now) that doesn't change.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:00 PM
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23. Yep - it's called common courtesy.
I've been 50 pounds overweight (not anymore!), and I've climbed stairs, and I've been real winded. But I've never been in such bad shape that I couldn't gasp out a "thanks". Sorry, boss was rude.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:24 PM
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25. He was out of breath
and if he said thank you he might've rolled, I mean, bounced down the stairs like a balloon whose air is let out.
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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 01:30 PM
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29. I kicked for two reasons

I also have health problems. I crushed my leg a while back. So I can understand the health part. It only stops hurting when I am asleep and stairs can be a problem. But I laways said thankyou in the hospital even after a suppository to help that end. Iron pills can really mess you up. I really said thank you when they jabbed my leg with a needle fiull of morphine.

Second since my exec came here about six months ago. He is never seen-we get only emails. We even joked about putting his pic on a milkcarton and mailing it to him. He never mingles with the po folk. Not even at the company cookout-cost two bucks a head- And the funny thing is we are 90% social workers masters level but he is a phd. I just think he is rude and somewhat lacking in social graces


DEMMAN-
Damn I love this place-opinions Gotta have them
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 04:58 PM
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30. I can relate.
I went into work today and quickly found that one chick was on vacation, and one co-worker's wife was in a horrific car accident, - so he wouldn't be in.

Bottom line, it was me and one other dude holding down the fort. I did my job, the vacation chick's job, and the job of the guy with the wife in the car accident and I did it all admirably in a 7 1/2 hour shift. No major f#ck ups. Even caught a potentially costly mistake someone else made.

At the end of the day do I get a "thanks, I appreciate it...?" Were words such as "good job, thanks for filling in," forthcoming? No they were not. Instead I got lip because I didn't volunteer to stay longer and do more.

Hrmph. Dude can kiss my ass.
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