Mad Cow stuff and cattle slaughter stories in GD Forum making me ill.....

[KoKo]

I don't know if I can log on anymore. And, to hear "gleeful vegans" carrying on about it doesn't help me feel better. I don't know, I wonder if it can be put in Environment Forum or something.

I know it's a big issue, but is anyone else getting so sick over this that it's affecting what's left of our already depressed war battered state of mind since the Chimp usurped the Presidency?

Is it too much? (And I'm not trashing the Vegans here, it's all just a little too gleeful. Some of us need to eat meat occasionally, in spite of what vegans think.)

[Tinoire]

1. Awww Koko

The vegans are just acting the same way we are acting towards the Republicans. It's the "I Told You So' syndrome after years of being treated like kooks.

I once had the goal of being at least a vegetarian (in my fantasy at the time- I was planning on getting to the Dick Gregory point where you just roam around in an orchard waiting for the fruit to naturally fall) but could not even last 1 month because my husband was still eating meat and the night I went to pick up hamburgers, I CAVED in.

I should tell you though, that I couldn't eat that glorious hamburger (from my favorite In and Out) because the meat tasted 'dead'. It was the strangest thing but I got over it shortly afterwards because it was getting too hard to eat.

I started out just wanting to cut out meat because of the cruel industry in this country and the meat industry's complicity in changing the labor laws of this country (that was my research at the time because of the Mad Cow scare in Europe) but then I had to cut out shrimp because of what the shrimp farms are doing to labor and the environment in the Pacific, then it was cheese that had to be cut out and etc, etc until the night I was asked to pick up a hamburger.

Anyway, it's the old "I Told You So" and if I had been able to make it that far, I'd probably be one of the worst ones right now ;)

Lol- Just wanted to laugh with you! Cheers

[KoKo]

5. ROFL Tinoire! I get your point! I eat mostly chicken but after all the

DU slaughter house stories, and knowing what Tyson does to their birds I actually see the animal when I go to put a fork in it.

At least your humor is a little perk. I have a friend that's on the "Blood Type Diet" and she only eats vegetables, she told me since I'm RH Negative 0 that I need to eat meat. I agree with her after trying to be more vegan. I just can't do it. Too many beans and pastas started to pack on the pounds and there are other little things with that much gaseous food! :D

[Tinoire]

11. You can still eat meat!

Koko, where do you live? There are ways to minimize your risks... You can have a cow properly raised for your family, humanely slaughtered, and individually processed. This is what I do and the meat (absolutely delicious from being grass fed and some molasses) comes to less than $1.50 lb, plus it's cut and packaged exactly as I like. Trouble is you'll need a dedicated freezer but I think it's worth it. Saved a fortune in beef over the last 5 years.


Also, if there's an Arabic Halal store near-by, I highly recommend them because they have very strict and humane guidelines about raising, feeding and slaughtering the animals. Much stricter than Kosher plus under Halal each animal has to be individually prayed over and slaughtered in a manner that the animal doesn't panic or overly suffer so even your conscience will be better off!

You can also order grass-fed beef on the internet but that would be my last option.

[Dogmudgeon]

2. Watch the glee ...

... turn into panic when the RadVedge fringe realizes that prions such as BSE/vCJD can be transmitted by plants.

The fact that Mad Cow happened to turn up in cows first was simply from ecological opportunism. If any of those affected cows had been slaughtered and had their offal used as fertilizer, the prions will start showing up in plants.

But we don't test plants for vCJD/BSE, do we?

The RadVedge gloaters are the same kinds of idiots that the Religious Rightists were when they gloated over AIDS. And they'll be this way right up until the first one develops vCJD.

--bkl
Piss off Ingrid,
Eat a burger.

[KoKo]

6. Oh FGS! Plants with Mad Cow? I know you are joking. Don't do this to me

If my brocolli has mad cow, then I'm a goner for sure. (I love brocolli)

[Dogmudgeon]

8. How will you know?

They don't test plants.

They don't want to test plants.

Once a few long-time vegetarians come down with vCJD, they'll be forced to deal with it.

--bkl

[Tinoire]

10. Vegan Panic Time, They can't even eat French Fries now!

(or as OldEurope wittily renamed, 'Freedom Fries')

Yep, we're all in this together!

Mad Cow Scare Now Hurting State Potato Industry

By Carleen Johnson

SEATTLE - Another unexpected spin-off from the mad cow scare, could spell bad news for more than just the beef industry.

Washington state potatoes are now being held hostage by Asian markets.

The problem is beef tallow, which is used to pre-fry some potato products like french fries, before they are packaged and shipped overseas.

<snip>

"Japan is our number one export market frozen french fries, so yes, it is a concern," said Shannon Bornsen, the director of International Trade at the Washington State Potato Commission.

<snip>

At risk is an export market for frozen potato products that brought in $225 million for Northwest exporters last year.

http://www.komotv.com/stories/29056.htm

[amazona]

3. might be time to ignore those kinds of stories...

I'm thinking the same thing -- I'm starting to get concerned about having some eating disorder issues triggered. It's a valid news concern, and people should discuss it, but I'm thinking for myself I should not participate in reading or discussing this issue any further.

An acquaintance of my mom's died in the Hepatitis A epidemic or event or whatever you want to call it in Tennessee so eating vegetables is not the answer either. The green onions are already killing people, whereas the cow might or might not ever kill anyone. The vegans are living in a dream world if they think they are immune from the unregulated killer food issue.

Unfortunately, all food is either animal, vegetable, or fungi, and pleasant as the fungi may be, they do not provide enough calories to keep us alive.

Last month I had just about made a firm decision not to buy any more vegetables that must be served uncooked...now I'm thinking I won't buy any meat either? And they are going to start feeding downer cows to the chickens so no more poultry?

This way lies madness. Anorexia/bulimia have killed far more than mad cow.

[TreasonousBastard]

4. Perhaps the answer lies in...

protecting the food suppply so we get wholesome, nutritious non-toxic foods.

(Nah. That would be just plain crazy. No profit there, except maybe for the farmers.)

[Wonder_Cow]

9. logic!

I hate logical solutions!

...ahhh, good, you were being sarcastic about that whole "protecting the food supply" rubbish. Good. We all know we need profit. Lots of it.

[MercutioATC]

7. As I sit here eating a medium-rare grilled prime Delmonico, I say..

Ptttttttthhh!

If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat.


...on a more serious note, I'm not worried about mad cow. I stick to really good steaks (no ground meat) from reputable suppliers. Now if the price would just go down like it's supposed to...