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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:27 AM
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Christian Haunted House Convinces Girl, 11, To Remain A Virgin
Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 10:37 AM by matcom
:eyes:

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This Halloween, Chicago's Salem Baptist Church wants teenagers to go straight to "hell." Admission is $7 and passengers arrive at its gates on a yellow school bus.

Salem's "Nights of Terror" promises to "scare the hell out of teens" by guiding them on a half-hour tour through Hades -- or at least what passed for it in the don't-call-it-a-haunted-house set up in the church's administrative offices at 109th and Cottage Grove.

<snip>

In one scene, a girl was lying on a gurney where a masked man in surgical scrubs pretended to perform an abortion. A toilet was sitting nearby apparently to collect the aborted fetus.

A fenced-in cell housed a few denizens of "hell," including a pedophile trolling the Internet for a young victim, a meditating Buddhist, and two mincing young men wearing body glitter who were supposed to be homosexuals.

<snip>

The tour of "hell" ended in "heaven," where a white-robed angel asked the group to invite Jesus into their hearts to avoid spending eternity in hell.

As she skittishly made her way through the hell house, Sydney Foulks, 11, had a vice grip on her father's hand. "I thought it was very scary and I know I'm never sleeping with nobody until I get married," Sydney said as she exited.

"I thought it was phenomenal," said her father, Kevin Foulks. "This gives you a glimpse of what you're going to do forever if you don't confess your sins and give your life to Christ."

http://www.suntimes.com/lifestyles/religion/117630,CST-NWS-HELL31.article
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:29 AM
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1. Good god.
<i>two mincing young men wearing body glitter who were supposed to be homosexuals.</i>

Yes, because body glitter is ALWAYS the mark of Satan. :eyes:
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 02:09 PM
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40. ..
Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 02:09 PM by youthere
:spray:

I'm putting that in my sig line.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:00 PM
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42. Oh, wow!
I feel so special. :blush:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:31 AM
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2. "I know I'm never sleeping with nobody".....
She's a smart one, that Sydney..... :crazy:
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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:48 PM
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22. well little girl, i ain't nobody!
:evilgrin:
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:08 PM
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26. Ah, our world-class education system at work...
Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 01:09 PM by deadparrot
:banghead:

So using the rule of double negatives, she's going to sleep with everyone?
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:09 PM
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49. And some smart-assed boy will convince her that he isn't really
fucking her. He's just, um, petting. And he's going to marry her. You don't go to hell for petting, do you? And then, well, you know, she gets hot and bothered and it's all over 'cept the crying on the way to the shotgun altar.

What a terribly predictable future for this girl who won't bother to arm herself with facts and protection.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:11 PM
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52. Ah yes...
double negatives. The mark of a well educated young lady.

Sydney Sydney Sydney.......
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:31 AM
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3. careful kiddies, or the Meditating Buddhist will getcha!
huh?
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:33 AM
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4. "...two mincing young men wearing body glitter..."
Sounds like my friends, Jayson and Jasin, got an acting gig there.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:36 AM
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5. "a meditating Buddhist"
Yep. The true dregs of society. Peaceful Buddhists. :eyes:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:36 AM
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6. Anything that convinces 11 year olds not to give it up is okay in my book!
:patriot:

(sorry matcom x( )
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:40 AM
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8. That's what parents are for.
Mine never subjected me to such stupidity and yet, I managed to not have sex until after I graduated from college. :wow: I made my choice not out of fear, but because I didn't want the responsibility of making a choice whether or not to carry a fetus to term or the emotional ties that being intimate with someone would give me. I wasn't terrified, I simply made a choice based on honest facts given to me without an agenda. I was never told that sex was evil or premarital sex was sending me straight to hell. Giving people honest information allows them to make choices honest to themselves.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 11:39 AM
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10. You are a mature and intelligent person
And your parents and/or whoever gave you the honest facts are to be commended. More parents need to do that, not scare their kids.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 11:47 AM
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11. My parents did a great job of not terrifying me of life.
I knew the facts. I knew I could get pregnant. I'm a very sentimental person, so having that bond with someone would be different for me than someone who isn't as sentimental. I"m not advocating that being this sentimental is better, it just is what it is. With an honest look at the facts, I made the best decision for me.

All without terrifying me with shit like these "hell houses."
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 11:36 AM
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9. Terrorizing 11 year olds is okay?
How about beating them? Locking them up? Making them wear a burkha? That all okay, too? Anything for the sake of keeping them away from that sinful sex!

How about maybe talking to them? Establishing trust between parent and child? Educating them?
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:54 PM
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24. How long till that kid wakes up and looks for revenge? A week?
I waited till 18, because my parents let me know it's my privilege, not anyone else's entitlement.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 02:05 PM
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38. There are probably ways to help an 11-year-old make
personal decisions about her body without scaring her to death with speculative images of "hell."
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:37 AM
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7. "pedophile trolling the Internet for a young victim"
Look! Mark Foley found a new career!
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 11:50 AM
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13. I guess he got out of rehab after all
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 11:50 AM
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12. I expect her to give in first thing at age 15
Unless she gets real sex eduation.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:51 PM
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23. No, she'll just do anal, to preserve her hymen.
I hear anal is all the rage with the fundy teens, cuz you can still be a virgin.

:crazy:
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:13 PM
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53. That and oral sex
Personally, I think both of those are far more intimate.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 11:55 AM
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14. And yet these idiots think that * is a swell guy
A man who has killed over half a million people. I am sick to my stomach that I have to share a country with these asswipes.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:16 PM
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15. sins
I always thought that this fantasy they have about christ is completely absurd........
Why would all of us be confined to what 'adam and eve' did way back when, so they
made all of us sinners??
Complete hoax
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:16 PM
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16. A Buddhist? A BUDDHIST?!
WTFH?!
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windlight Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:35 PM
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20. yea, you have to watch those
cross-legged seem-to-be-sleeping-while-sitting folks, you never know when they'll jump up and grab you and drag you into their peace-nic ways.


(and just in case it doesn't come though the way i intend :sarcasm: )
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 11:19 AM
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62. That caught my attention too
An open mind lets the devil in
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:19 PM
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17. this is the funniest thing i have read in a while
yeah, those Buddhists should be watched. Do buddhist have sex? :rofl:
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:39 PM
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21. Well, how else are you going to get little Buddhists?
That's why this 11 year old refuses to have sex. She might accidentally reproduce little Buddhists.

:eyes:
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:42 PM
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29. well yeah,
the question was a joke. the girl obviously doesn't know a thing about buddhism, nor does she understand that it is a choice as any religious/philosophical belief is.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:46 PM
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30. I got that! I was joking back in response.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:49 PM
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oops
although the article made me laugh, i honestly do feel sorry for the girl. i support someone's right to faith but when it crosses the line into close mindedness and brain washing it is not funny.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:57 PM
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35. I think these "hell houses" are a shameful excuse to scare people
who are vulnerable to this sort of thing.

If you truly believe in your faith, you shouldn't have to scare people. Being honest about who you are should be enough.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:24 PM
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18. This gives you a glimpse of what you're going to do forever ....
fine ... ok boys, drop the glitter and put on the leather. Hell's going BUTCH!
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:26 PM
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19. At least wait until your 16, sweetie...
:sheesh:

RL
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:54 PM
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25. So where was the power suit wearing career woman?
You know, the one who won't settle down with a man and submit to having a baby every year until her uterus falls out. Surely she's going to Hell too.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:37 PM
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27. I'm not surprised this is going on at Rev. Meeks' church
As he's a conservative state senator from Chicago and was candidate for governor who didn't get much support from white conservatives. He's a bizarre mix of extreme Christian conservative and civil rights crusader who believe that the white conservatives who didn't support him were racists. He's spearheaded a lot of great social programs on the south side, but he has a rabid anti-gay, anti-choice agenda.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:10 PM
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50. Thank you!!!
A little real-life context makes a big difference here. To paraphrase...Meeks is an idiot!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:42 PM
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28. One could say
that it scared the f**k out of her

:spank::hide::scared:
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:47 PM
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31. *snort*
:rofl:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:49 PM
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32. The pastor of this church is a close ally of Jesse Jackson.
He serves in the Illinois State Senate, for those who don't know.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:55 PM
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33. I fully support these people and all their ilk in their project of non-sex-having
although I think it would be far better if they would continue this abstinence, or at any rate make sure to use protection, even after marriage.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:10 PM
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51. I do like the way you think. We need to convince them to remain
chaste after marriage.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:56 PM
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34. Oi! I can tell lots of people to remain virgins. For free.
:crazy:
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 02:01 PM
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36. Meditating Buddhists!!
Ommmmmmmmmmmmm... ommmmmmmmmmmm... GOTCHA! BWAHAHAHAHA! You're going to HAY-ELL!!!

:sarcasm:
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deucemagnet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 02:03 PM
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37. Well, if that's what the Christian haunted house says hell is like...
...then I guess it has to be true. :eyes:
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 02:07 PM
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39. I'm SO going to hell.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 02:21 PM
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41. She wants to be a virgin bride when she grows up, eh?
Well, that's fine. When I was 11 I wanted to be a paleontologist (but I can't stand being out in the hot sun). Then a heavy metal guitarist (but I have no talent). Then a veterinarian (but I faint at the sight of blood). :evilgrin:
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:05 PM
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43. Oh please...
:eyes:
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:10 PM
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44. Looks like I'm going to hell.
Oh well.
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Lethe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 11:43 PM
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56. Hell must be a great place cause they are trying to keep everybody out.
-Al Capone

:evilgrin:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:12 PM
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45. OMG!
I couldn't even read the whole thing.

Yeah, that's the answer, give 'em sexual hang-ups. :eyes:

:sarcasm:
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:00 PM
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46. so it finally spread north, huh? We had one of these down here
in Texas at least 5 years ago.

Now, if they also added some good info about going to hell because you lied, cheated, stole, oppressed, slandered, touted racist dogma, etc etc, I might find it a tad less offensive.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:06 PM
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47. Gotta watch them Buddhists.
They's scary, violent bastids, they is.

:eyes:
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Merrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:08 PM
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48. She can blame daddy when
her future hubby has a small pecker and won't venture south of the equator.
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 11:29 PM
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54. "Hell Houses"?
Those things are so f-ing messed up. Big, bloody abortions like that aren't even performed anymore. And not all homosexuals wear body glitter. And what in the hell is wrong with buddhist. Fundies are going to hell, imho. Jesus doesnt want a bunch of deranged, violent freaks in his kingdom.
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Lethe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 11:42 PM
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55. it justs makes teenagers want to do the forbidden things more
whenever your church or parents tell you not to do something, sooner or later you are going to try it.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 11:44 PM
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57. What you're going to do forever? What, act in cheap haunted houses? n/t
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:31 AM
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58. How silly!
:eyes:
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:33 AM
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59. Haggard can start a new career acting in one of these "houses."
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:38 AM
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60. Doing meth and getting nailed by a male prostitute?
Um... that wouldn't be acting? :shrug:
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:39 AM
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61. Well, a re-enactment since you really shouldn't fornicate with children watching.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 11:58 AM
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63. Now THERE is a visual!!
Ted bent over a table smoking meth while a leather-daddy rides him!

:thumbsup:
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:14 PM
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64. So she was considering having sex at 11? Nice parenting there. -nt
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