What happened on the Sopranos tonight?

[Syrinx]

I sort of watched. But I have DirecTv, and I'm having issues with it. We had minor rain, meaning I saw about every third frame of the show.

It seemed fairly uneventful. The guy who looks like the Shah of Iran had a heart attack and Tony Jr. got a Puerto Rican girlfriend. I was expecting someone to get whacked.

I'm a very late comer to the show, but the last few weeks I've really gotten to enjoy it very much. Makes me mad that on the season finale that DirecTv had to piss on my parade. Badabing.

[Bunny]

1. Yeah, it was uneventful mostly. *SPOILERS*

Phil Leotardo had a heart attack, which is probably good for him since he called Little Carmine a c---sucker. That was a pretty bad move on his part. Tony hears from the FBI agent that rumors are flying about Phil intending to kill someone close to Tony, as payback for the club bombing and killing that heavy-set guy on Phil's crew. Tony goes to see Phil and tells him to just focus on getting better - that there's plenty of money out there for all of them.

Christopher is banging the real estate agent that Tony liked. She and Chris are using drugs again, and Chris has hinted to her that if Tony finds out he's using again, he could be killed.

A.J.'s girlfriend is 10 years older than him, and has a young son. She's Dominican, I think Tony said. A.J. actually seems pretty happy.

Carmela got real nosy about what happened to Adrianna, going so far as to consider consulting a private detective to track Ade down. This makes Tony really nervous, so he orders Sil to get the necessary permits reinstated for Carmela's spec house. This has the desired effect of steering Carm away from worrying about Adrianna. Carm is now very happy working on the spec house.

I think that's all that happened.

[Syrinx]

2. wow, thanks!

Great summary! :hi:

[Bunny]

3. No problem!

I forgot to add that Bobby Baccala visited Uncle Junior in the rest home. I think he was trying to return some money that Uncle June sent to him (?) - not sure exactly what transpired in that scene.

Bobby was very nervous about being there, said something about how he could get in trouble because visiting June would be disloyal to Tony, seeing as how June shot him and all.

Anyway, Uncle June then gave the envelope of money to one of the attendants at the home.

:hi:

[Haole Girl]

4. Bunny, I envy your memory

Especially for names. You are very fortunate!

[Bunny]

5. Thank you. In real life, I never remember names.

I must be fixated on these gangsters, or something. The Italian names are so melodic, maybe that's why I remember them. Like Little Carmine Lupertazzi - now THAT'S a name!

[Haole Girl]

6. LOL!

[blue neen]

7. Bunny!

You gave an excellent summary of what happened on the show last night! Good writing skills, girl!

I kept getting a feeling in the pit of my stomach watching that show. It's the anticipation that somehting big and nasty is going to happen to one of Tony's crew. It's ominous. The Christopher situation has me worried.

When do the rest of the episodes start?

[Bunny]

9. I don't know when they start again, supposedly it's to be relatively

soon, but you know how things go with that show. I've heard maybe this fall, I've also heard next spring. :shrug:

That whole Christopher thing was getting on my nerves last night - way too much attention devoted to his using drugs and being involved with Julianna Margulies. I was afraid that Phil was going to have Chris whacked when he came out of that diner.

:hi:

[Syrinx]

37. final eight episodes start in January

I wish it was sooner, but this will give me something to look forward to. :)

[RedStateShame]

12. Did you get the impression

that that Fed was hinting that Chris was the possible target in Tony's crew? I know this sounds either absolutely hare-brained or painfully obvious, but when the Fed ended his conversation by saying, "It's Christmas," that kinda tied it for me. I explained this to my girlfriend, and she looked at me as if I told that I discovered all tires are made of black licorice.

[blue neen]

35. Yes, it was eerie.

I think Christopher is in big time trouble.

I also think he is using again because he's not really over Adrianna.

[JackBeck]

8. Uncle Junior admitted that he killed JFK.

Don't know whether or not to believe it since he's in the loony bin, but I like how the admission was a throw away.

[LynneSin]

10. No, Uncle Junior said he might not have been alone on the Tony shooting

they Bobby jokes about it being like JFK

[Bunny]

11. Heh, yeah he did admit to that.

Must be the senility kicking in!

[Mutley]

28. Yeah, I think Junior gave Bobby and his family the money for

Christmas and Bobby was returning it.

[Mutley]

13. It looks like Tony *might have* patched things up with Phil and

the NY guys. Maybe. Phil didn't actually say anything, but he was crying. Why *did* Little Carmine bring up the stuff about Phil's brother? :crazy:

[Bunny]

14. Good question! I think Little Carmine did it intentionally.

I think he wanted to provoke Phil, which is exactly what happened. Phil called the Head of the Family a c---sucker and then walked out of a meeting with him. That behavior just can't be tolerated, seems to me. Phil has been skimming off the top, hiding money from both Johnny Sac and Little Carmine, AND, he killed Vito without permission. Phil's a bit of a loose cannon, wouldn't you say?

Maybe Little Carmine wants Phil out of the way, to make room for Tony taking over? Bringing up Phil's brother was either a really shrewd move, or incredibly dumb. I don't think Little Carmine is a mental giant, but I doubt that he's that stupid. :shrug:

[Mutley]

22. Phil is definately a loose cannon..

You could be right that maybe Carmine wants Tony to take over, but that wasn't the best way to rile Phil up, I think. He could've just lost it right there even worse than he did.

[Nickster]

15. I think he did it intentionally. Maybe if he sets Tony and Phil at each

other, he can step in as the big boss.

[Bunny]

16. He *is* the big boss, but I think he wants to keep dabbling in

Hollywood screenplays and other interests, and wants someone to run the family while he does it. Johnny Sac was doing this, but now he can't. Phil has become unpredictable, and almost a liability. I think Little Carmine is putting his trust in Tony, and is going to see that Tony gets to run things.

[Nickster]

17. I thought he was one of the three bosses, him, Johnny Sac, and Tony.

And that he basically retired from the life to Florida? Or am I mis-remembering? I know Big Carmine was the big boss, but I thought little Carmine never made it to that level. Hard to remember all the details when they spend 2 years between seasons. Sheesh.

[Bunny]

18. Yeah, it is hard to keep things straight, isn't it?

Best I can recall, Big Carmine was the head of the New York Family. When he died, his son took over, but seemed content to hang around Florida while Johnny Sac ran things. But Little Carmine was, indeed, at least the nominal head of the NY family. Now that Johnny is in prison, Phil has sort of taken over the daily operations of the NY family.

Tony's family answers to the New York Family, but only to Little Carmine (not Phil Leotardo). Until he shot Tony, Uncle June was technically the head of Tony's family, but Tony ran it in day-to-day life. This always grated on June, but Tony did his best to let him think he (June) was calling the shots. Tony kept him informed, kicked his share of money up to June, etc.

Anyway, I'm not sure about all of this either. Semms like I've been watching this show for ten years now!

[Nickster]

21. Well, if that's the case then I agree with you. It was def intentional on

Little Carmine's part so filling in the other details, I'd agree that he was picking Tony's side.

Just wait, we'll wait until next year and get the remaining 8 episodes, then they'll decide that they didn't QUITE get everything tied up, so wait another 2 years to see the epilogue.....well maybe we'll have a spinoff.....NO NO NO....we'll have a feature MOVIE! YEAH! They are just going to beat the heck out of this horse for what it's worth. I don't believe the story is quite over yet.

[Bunny]

23. I think they'll officially end the series next year, but leave the door

open for a feature film a few years down the road. That's my big prediction, anyway!

[Nickster]

24. Just wait, they'll leave the last episode as a huge cliff hanger, then

you'll have to see the movie to find out what happened.

[Bunny]

26. I agree. The franchise is pretty valuable, so just giving it up seems

counterproductive. But they've gotten away with making us wait years between seasons, so they can probably get us to wait for a movie to come out five years from now or something. And you know what - I'd definitely go see it!

[Nickster]

29. You know, I'm sad to say it, but I would too. What is the spell they have

me under to keep watching this show? Objectively speaking, it's not really that well of a written show. Or is it just me?

[Mutley]

34. I'd rather they cancel it while it's still good than let it get bad

like most shows do after they run too long.

[Mutley]

25. Well, the only reason we went two years between seasons

was that Edie Falco had breast cancer.

[Nickster]

27. Wow, I feel stupid for not knowing that. But I don't think that was the

only reason, they always had huge gaps between seasons usually a year or more. I remember some time ago reading an article that said it took so much extra time because they shot the show in movie quality rather than standard television filming quality.

[Mutley]

31. Well, yeah that was the reasons for the usual gaps.

The show used to run from January to March, didn't it? Then Edie Falco had breast cancer so they waited for her to recover before shooting season 5.

It is hard to remember all this from two years ago. :P

[Bunny]

30. I forgot about her breast cancer.

Glad to see her back from that. Carmela's so greedy, isn't she? She instantly drops all concern about Ade the minute Tony gets her spec house going again!

[Mutley]

32. I couldn't believe that worked on her.

I mean, I know she's greedy and selfish, but Ade was her friend! :eyes:

[Jokerman]

20. Last I heard, Phil was the acting boss.

Don't know if that;s changed since jonny sack got sentenced but little carmine agreed to let jonny take over last season.

[Rhiannon12866]

19. Nobody got "whacked,"'

and my SO was very disappointed.:shrug:

And Tony pulled strings to get his wife back involved in her architecture project (I haven't followed this long, either) to distract her from pursuing what actually became of Adrianna. She was motivated to hire a PI to find her, since her mother attempted suicide.:-(

[Syrinx]

36. Hi Rhiannon!

Nice to see you! :hi:

I wish I had watched this show from the beginning. It is really quite fascinating. I've missed so much. Thank goodness for DVD's. And downloads. :)

[Rhiannon12866]

39. Hello, my friend! And it's great to see you!

And I agree that this show is very well-done, though very few of the characters are even likable... I guess that's so nobody'll protest when they get killed off, sorry, "whacked," LOL! And the violence does put me off, but I guess this could be a guy thing...:shrug: Some HS kid, who was just on CNN, thought it was "neat" after finding a dead body...:eyes:

Rhiannon:hi:

[Syrinx]

43. I guess violence sorta goes with a Mafia show :)

That's sad about the kid on CNN. Glad I missed it.

Take care, nice person!

:hi:

[Rhiannon12866]

48. Well, yeah, LOL! I guess I shouldn't be surprised, given the

subject matter!:D

And CNN has gotten pretty unbearable. Yesterday, after they talked about the bad luck numbers story every thirty seconds, but barely mentioned that it was D-Day, I just turned the damn thing off!:-(

And you take care, too, my friend! Interesting thread!:hi:

[Mutley]

33. Oh! Christopher is sleeping with Tony's Real Estate agent

And they're both doing junk again (Chris and the Real Estate Agent — can't remember her name).

[Syrinx]

38. she's called Julianna, if I recall correctly

Same as the actress's real name. But her last name is different on the show. I don't remember what it is, but I think it starts with "F."

[Rhiannon12866]

40. Julianna Margulies plays Julianna Skiff

And she and Christopher met at an AA meeting...:shrug:

[Mutley]

42. Okay. I could not remember for anything.

Thanks. :hi:

[Rhiannon12866]

41. Finale review, from Newsday. There's even a poll, LOL!

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/ny-etsop0605,0,4202335.story?coll=ny-top-headlines

[Syrinx]

44. what to make of the Arabs that wished Tony merry christmas?

At least they seemed to be Arabs to me.

And it seemed to foreshadow something or another. But I'm new to the show, and maybe they throw random bits in like that often. :shrug:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

45. Not the first time they said hello to him.

I bet it ties in with the FBI agents snooping around.

[Syrinx]

46. thanks!

It would be cool if they threw a little LIHOP/MIHOP into the final story arc come January. But I won't hold my breath. :lol:

[Rhiannon12866]

47. That was an important bit, too!

The FBI agent went out of his way to tip Tony off about the plot against him. I'm told that this was a big thing.:-)