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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 12:05 PM
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What would it take for you to kill someone?
I mean literally kill them.

We were discussing this at work (it's OK, it was a slow night). You hear people say, "I could just kill him/her!" but what would need to happen for them to really follow through on that threat.

How about you?
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 12:07 PM
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1. If my childrens' lives were at stake, I'd be capable of ANYthing.
hopefully, I'll never have to test that theory in this lifetime, though.

:hi:

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fight4my3sons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 02:14 PM
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10. That was my thought.
If something or someone were threatening my children I would be ready to defend them at any cost. Like you I don't want to have to find out how far I would go or how much damage I would do.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 02:29 PM
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12. My first thought, too...Or anyone else's kid for that matter.
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 12:11 PM
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2. I came very very close once
in self-defense, and in defense of a friend and his grandma, in whose house I was staying.

Knowing without a doubt that I could kill someone if I had to bothers me to this day, more than 12 years on. There are some things about myself I'd rather not know - this is in the top 3. :scared:
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 12:15 PM
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3. If anyone messed with my kids, I could kill them without hesitation.
And without remorse.
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 12:22 PM
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4. Physically abuse a woman or a child in my presence
And you will be in for a world of hurt. I doubt I'd kill anyone in those circumstances, but that's probably the closest I'd come.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 01:03 PM
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5. if someone was hurting my loved ones especially my brothers
i would kill without remorse
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 01:07 PM
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6. defense of my family, home, loved ones
home? yeah, I think so... say someone was trying to torch my place and the only way to stop him was to disable him. what i do to disable him might kill him. i dunno.

but definitely self-defense, defense of my beloved, my family, etc.
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 01:44 PM
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7. If my kids were in danger
That's just instinct, though. I'm not sure I could take a life in any other circumstances.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 01:49 PM
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8. If anybody tried to hurt my parents
I'm only 19, so I don't have kids or a wife to protect yet, but if anybody went after my parents I'd go medieval on their sorry ass, even if it meant I might be the one to die.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 02:30 PM
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13. ...
:hug:
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:25 PM
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25. Awww... thanks
:hug:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 04:54 PM
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34. You have lucky parents!
:D :yourock:
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 02:12 PM
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9. put my family or close friends in mortal danger
yep.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 02:21 PM
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11. A very large yet easy to use fly swatter.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 08:45 PM
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47. ROFL!
:rofl:
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 02:30 PM
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14. I had to shoot an intruder in my home 15 years ago
It was more a reaction than a thought out plan. He's lucky I missed but unlucky that I got a good look at him and made a 100% identification when the cops picked him up in the neighborhood 20 minutes later. One neighbor who was up late heard the shot and saw where he ran to after he came out of my house. What could have happened? When we went to court we found out the guy had been convicted of numerous prior burglaries including one that even involved sexual battery four years prior to the incident.

Here in Florida they go easy on sexual predators that don't make the headlines and capture lots of public attention and public pressure for justice.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 02:30 PM
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15. A lack of repercussions
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 02:39 PM
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16. Twenty bucks
:popcorn:
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 02:46 PM
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17. you have no soul
for selling out so low. Fifty bucks at least. Or a really good bottle of wine and a Cuban cigar.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:01 PM
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21. I had a soul
Sold it.

Got fifty bucks.
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:04 PM
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22. Yes,
but I had to pay for the shipping fees, too. ;)
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 02:48 PM
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18. Family, and the children of my closest friends
Funny, but I don't think of this as what would make me kill but what I would gladly die to protect.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 02:57 PM
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19. My mom and I were discussing the same thang
I don't know that I could kill anyone.

I'm a man who cries like a baby if he accidentally steps on a bug.

I would like to think I would protect myself, my loved ones, stop innocents being harmed. But killing? Only if there was no other choice and there usually is.

In cold blood? Out of anger? For revenge? For profit? NO.


However, I am beginning to think that randomly slapping people might be good social policy.....

Khash.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 06:09 AM
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56. It depends
In cold blood? No.
Out of anger? No.
For revenge? No.
For profit? No.

However, when it comes to defense of me or my loved ones, I will do anything to end the attack.

Part of my work involves being around law enforcement officers as a computer consultant. I am licensed and trained to carry a concealed weapon in my state and in others. Trust me, LEO's take lethal force very seriously.

It isn't about killing someone, it's about self defense. Despite what the movies would have us believe, a sidearm is actually somewhat touch and go as a weapon. If lethal force is warranted there is none of this "shooting the weapon out of his hand" or "shooting him in the leg." If the situation is at that point, you must stop the threat NOW. And that means multiple shots into the center of mass.

It's not necessarily to kill, it's to STOP.

Having never been faced with this situation, I wonder if push comes to shove that I could pull the trigger. I hope so.

To answer the original question, yes I could kill someone, but the killing would be a side effect, not necessarily the intention. If that makes any sense.

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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:59 AM
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57. I understand what you mean
You're talking about protecting people - yourself, loved ones, others - as opposed to outright murder.

Still, there is a line that can be crossed. I almost did. I tried to kill a guy. And it wasn't a side effect, it was the sole intention. I didn't do it, though. But it was hard not to and it was hard to believe I might could have.


But I understand what you are saying. It could happen but it would not be your intent.

Khash.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 02:59 PM
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20. I once restrained myself from throwing a guy off a 3rd floor stair well
It was an outside stairwell in an apt bulding.

I had finally had enough of my now ex yelling at me and emotionally abusing me.

As I listened to this raving lunatic, something in me snapped. All those years of beine frightened he might turn violent and being reduced to tears finally took their toll.

I looked at him, at his contorted, red, screaming face with an odd detachment. The only thing I could think about was how lovely it would feel to see his twisted body at the bottom of the stairs. Perhaps dead, perhaps with a broken neck. And I had absolutely no doubt I could do it. It would just me soooo simple. I could do it because he would be so surprised. He wouldn't believe it, even as it was happening....

I frightened myself enough that the only thing I did was turn around, and without one word, walk right back into my apartment and slam the door shut. He banged on the door and continued to yell for several minutes, so much so I wondered if the lock would hold. But it did and he finally left.

That was ten years ago this spring. March or April, I'm not sure which anymore. The only thing I know is, I don't let people get to me anymore. And that person has been permanently removed from my life.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:07 PM
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23. 6lbs 5.5oz of pressure
Edited on Sun Apr-09-06 03:18 PM by Nailzberg




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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:10 PM
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24. Self defense
myself, my family or a child.

I could probably kill Osama bin Laden if I were given the chance. The operative word is probably. Don't if I could really do it. Maybe.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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AmyDeLune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 05:34 PM
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26. Under certain circumstances...
If my life or the lives of people I cared for (or even the lives of perfect strangers) were in danger I think I would be capable of killing someone.

Reminds me of a movie quote;

Jurgen: Will you kill him?

Preston: Yes.

(pause)

Jurgen: Can you?

Preston: I don't know...

I hope never to be in a situation where I have to find out.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 05:37 PM
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27. i doubt i would ever have to kill anyone
I'm sure i could disable them enough to not have to kill them.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 05:40 PM
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28. Threatning or hurting LeftyKid
I feel bad when I step on a worm after the rain, but anybody who tried to hurt LeftyKid would be quickly relieved of thier mortal coil and I would not hesitate or feel the slightest twinge of guilt about it.

I could kill somebody to defend myself but I'd feel guilty afterward. To protect LeftyKid there'd be only relief that he was safe and concern for his long-term wellbeing.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 06:03 PM
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29. Very little.
Edited on Sun Apr-09-06 06:04 PM by seawolf
But then, I'm something of a sociopath. Fortunately nobody's ever managed to both a: make me mad enough for the mental chains I put on myself to completely snap and b: be accessible once I've snapped.

But the three major things that would guarantee instant death for someone: Trying to hurt my dad, animal abuse, trying to hurt the few friends I have that I really care about.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 06:04 PM
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30. If family, friends, home were in danger
then I would do whatever it took to protect my loved ones.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 06:06 PM
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31. it would take a gun....
oh, wait a minute, you meant what is my motivation...:rofl:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 06:11 PM
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32. repuke voter registration
is about as close as it gets
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 06:13 PM
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33. If someone threatened someone I loved
I'm especially protective of my boyfriend. I'm small (4'11''), but damn, if I get pissed--watch out.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 04:58 PM
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35. I would do it to protect my loved ones and that includes animals
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 05:08 PM
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36. A Lot Of Money... And A Guarantee That I Wouldn't Be Caught.
Who did you have in mind?
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 05:16 PM
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37. spare time.
Edited on Mon Apr-10-06 05:16 PM by CanuckAmok
:evil:
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 05:42 PM
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38. not much
it's easier after the 3rd or 4th...

what, are you looking to hire?
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:53 PM
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39. Next person who looks at me funny is gonna git it!
:D
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:22 PM
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40. I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:24 PM
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41. $2.00
I at least wanna get reimbursed for the ammo.

Otherwise, it's all for the fun of the kill - who need a motive beyond that? Anything else is just sick.
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:31 PM
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42. If I or anyone I love were in immediate, mortal danger
I'd be capable of anything.
Otherwise, I'm just a normal, laid-back guy.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:32 PM
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43. In defense of my wife or children? It would only take the opportunity.
In defense of my friends or myself? Opportunity and urgency.
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:33 PM
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44. self defense/defense of other-or my dog, Flea...nt
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:43 PM
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45. Physical abuse of my stepson.
Especially if it was older kids bullying him or trying to hospitalize him. If there's one thing I do not tolerate, it's meathead fucking jocks bullying smaller kids. I read stories about kids getting "broomed" (That is, raped with a broomstick), it makes my goddamned blood boil. Once I found out who did it, age or gender be damned, they're getting fucked up beyond repair. Their parents interfere, they'll get mowed down with them, and it won't end until the pigs come and beat me.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:46 PM
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46. It depends
If it's an evil person, for whom I would not suffer any consequences, it wouldn't take much for me to do it. If it were someone who was not evil, I couldn't do it at all.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 08:47 PM
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48. It's not right to kill people unless you are going to use them for
food.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 09:10 PM
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50. LOL...
:spray:
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 08:51 PM
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49. two million bucks plus expenses
alas the going rate is considerably less than that around here

only in the movies!

they've had dudes arrested as hit men who were doing the job for a few hundred bucks!
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 10:31 PM
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51. it all depends
some days i feel as though i would rather die before harming another living creature (i even avoid insects on the driveway, and toss earthworms back on the grass)

other days, if there was a switch i could throw that would destroy all of humanity, i feel i could do it without a second thought...
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 10:37 PM
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52. Two instances, and that's it:
1) The life of a loved one was at stake,

2) If the lives of all of humanity was at stake
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 10:45 PM
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53. If they were trying to kill me. And I've been there.
It gets surprisingly easy when reduced to that equation.

Redstone
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_testify_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:03 AM
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60. I'm with you chief.
The ability to kill is hard-wired in us, no doubt. All it takes is a rush of adrenaline.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 11:02 PM
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54. If I was in grave danger but I would most likely get killed anyway.
:shrug:
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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 04:48 AM
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55. If I would have caught the guy...
...my wife had an affair with, I would have killed him.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:00 AM
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58. Hopefully I will never have to find out.
Surely if I was protecting myself or my family, but really I don't know.
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REDKING Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:02 AM
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59. If anybody put my family in harms way.......youre dead.
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