UCLA will beat USC

[Jack_Dawson]

Just a hunch, and one I've had all year.

You heard it here first.

:beer:

[KitchenWitch]

1. My husband has been saying the same thing.

[Jack_Dawson]

7. Sounds like a Keeper

:toast:

[nini]

2. I've got to admit I'm thinking the same thing

but then I'm a Bruin fan :D. I haven't been pulling against USC because I'd rather see them win the national title than Texas.. but I will admit the Bruins pulling out a victory will be very sweet.

It'll be a good one regardless.

[KitchenWitch]

3. I was actually hoping that Texas would lose

And Penn State would go to the Rose Bowl for the classic Big 10 PAC 10 game!

[nini]

5. That would be a great scenario!

Maybe one day. Anybody but TEXAS though :evilgrin:

[lastliberalintexas]

43. Yeah, because USC is *such* a progressive school

:eyes:

UT is actually the more liberal school of the 2. I knew better than to click on this thread. *sigh*

[nini]

48. What the hell is this all about????

A bit sensitive about freaking college football aren't you? Who the hell is talking politics here?


I don't root for a college football team because they are liberal. IF you saw my post that I am actually a Bruin fan - which is more liberal than USC so your little rant means nothing.

Yes, USC is the University of Spoiled Children :D - but they're still a So. Cal. school and not in TEXAS!

Good God.. get a grip :eyes:

[Jack_Dawson]

49. Agreed...

Kind of a wound-up bunch here. I think people need to leave DU and exercise during the day. It's a freaking college football game hello.

[nini]

50. Ok.. glad it's not just me.

I know I'm a political junkie but I don't associate everything with my political views :-)

[Jack_Dawson]

51. But if it comes down to it...

I will root for the Blue State team over the Red State team. Even though it's a Red State school vs. a Blue State school. OK now I'm confusing myself. Go Bruins!

[nini]

52. actually.. I'm sure that has something to do with my preference

:-)

didn't quite realize it though until you put it that way.

[ronnykmarshall]

58. Bruin fan too.

It used to be war in my house as a kid. I was the only Bruin fan in sea of Troy.

I've soften on my dis-taste for SC however. If they are in line for national championship, I'm all for them.

But if they're up against UCLA I'm all about the Blue and Gold.




U C L A
U-C-L-A
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

[Jack_Dawson]

59. 29 hours away...

But who's counting? Did you attend UCLA?

[ronnykmarshall]

64. No, but a life long fan.

[Richardo]

4. I hope you are all correct...

BA Poli Sci (Public Administration) 1978

:thumbsup:

[Writer]

6. Then Texas will kick EVERYONE's arse!

Hook 'em!

Writer.

[realisticphish]

8. hey

you almost lost to us buckeyes, and that was when our offense wasn't kicking... i wouldn't get cocky

[sasquatch]

10. How did you like that assbeating we gave Michigan?

:D

[realisticphish]

11. i lost my voice

it was great, we were running around at 11th and High screaming. and zero police problems on campus that night, thank you very much

[Writer]

27. But they WON, did they not?

Other than A&M and (somewhat) OSU, who has truly challenged Texas this season?

[realisticphish]

29. granted

but who have they played? a harder schedule than usc, granted, but not an overly tough one, either

edit: and what do you mean, "somewhat"? If it hadn't been for us being dipshits and not converting in the red zone, the game wouldn't have even been close

[Writer]

30. Well, ya know, converting in the red zone is what good teams do!

And Texas does that quite well ;)

BTW: What's up with the picture of the couple snogging? Is that you?

[realisticphish]

32. lol no

it's a sportscenter ad from a while ago

[Writer]

35. LOL! n/t

[DrDan]

56. ahem - SoCal has had an easy schedule?

45-13 over No 7 Oregon
34-31 over No 8 Notre Dame
50-42 over No 25 Fresno State
and now No 12 UCLA

[dajoki]

9. if...

they do Penn State could slide in.

[bertha katzenengel]

12. In 2005? Hmm...

Don't think so -- but I'll give you your due here if it happens.

BTW, I made my BIL's year w/ four tix to Bills v. Chargers on the 20th, an early birthday present. He was about three rows from the field in the end zone. Maybe not the best seats in the house, but he was beyond thrilled with them, and everyone had a great time. Go, Bolts!

[Jack_Dawson]

13. Yeaaaaah boy!

Errr...I mean Bertha! :hi:

That was a nice gift. How can I marry into your family?

:beer:

[bertha katzenengel]

16. Are you single and at least in your fifties?

My single sister likes 'em older... helps too if you have a gravelly voice. ;)

[Jack_Dawson]

21. 36...

How old is she?

:beer:

[bertha katzenengel]

22. 44...

But you're so young... you're outta the running. So sad.

[KitchenWitch]

14. endzone seats are highly underrated

sure they may not be on the 50 yard line, but I think endzone seats are cool!

[bertha katzenengel]

18. I was supposed to go to the game too, but it was the day after we

arrived from the east coast, and I knew I'd be too tired to have much fun. He took his best friend instead. It worked out great.

And he bought me a very cool Chargers' hat. :)

[KitchenWitch]

20. Cool

Glad you had a good time...

I had a good time out there too...maybe next time you go out there, we can meet up! (We will likely be moving out there within a couple of years.)

[Jack_Dawson]

54. From Where? n/t

[Awsi Dooger]

45. End zone seats are the absolute best

The 50 yard line is for snobs. Mid level in the center of the end zone is by far the best angle to actually tell what's going on in the game.

You can watch the line of scrimmage develop including the blocking schemes and head-to-head matchups. The coverage schemes and pass patterns are in perfect view also, no distortion from lousy angles. Just bring a pair of binocs for the far end of the field aspect.

Why do you think the coach's film they occasionally show on ESPN is from behind the action, not 50 yard line? The teams wouldn't be caught dead without cameras in the end zone.

[mattomjoe]

15. Wouldn't surprise me

Seems every year the #1 and #2 are clearly defined up until the last few weeks where one (or both) loses, consequently fucking up the BCS.

[Awsi Dooger]

42. This year is completely different

The pointspreads on many of those recent year upsets were very small, many single digits. Once you get to the range of pointspreads like these the win likelihood soars exponentially. The chance of USC or Texas losing is extremely low.

Fans who don't gamble tend to think pointspreads are just used to balance action. That is common mythology. They are also very handy tools to assess theoretical win probability. You can chart pointspread ranges back decades and determine how often the favorite wins given the pointspread. The correlation is astounding and provides logical projection of win probability. Based on the numbers this week, USC is more than a 1/15 favorite and Texas closer to 1/25. If anything, both of those projections are on the low end.

[Jack_Dawson]

63. Is it still 21 points?

and that translates to 1/15?

:shrug:

[Awsi Dooger]

71. Yes, 21 points translates to 1/15

The probability soars exponentially once you get into double digits especially above 17. That's why sportsbooks don't offer money lines (odds to win straight up) on numbers like that and above. It's essentially giving away money, short term interest.

It's a fallacy that pointspreads are simply to balance action. They equate to likelihood of victory. The sports media does a horrendous job of detailing probability. I guess they just don't understand the applications. Or maybe they want to keep the audience around and not tell them one team theoretically has 15 or 25 times more chance to win than the other.

[bamacrat]

17. It would be hilarious!!!

[bigwillq]

19. I don't think so (nt)

[StellaBlue]

23. God, I hope so

That's the buzz I'm hearing, too.

I am a bit biased, though, as a rabid Texas Ex. :)

[Jack_Dawson]

47. As a Texas fan...

Don't you want to "beat the best"?

[StellaBlue]

53. But we ARE the best

bwhahahaha

I think Vince drank some crazy juice last week, though... of course, if he doesn't win the Heisman, at least perhaps all this turning pro talk will die down and we can rest assured he's coming back next year!

[Jack_Dawson]

68. Colorado is still in it...

j/k :beer:

[Initech]

24. It looks like the Vegas odds are stacked against UCLA...

But anything's possible!

[maveric]

25. Sorry Jack Dawson, this one wont be close.

Reggie Bush running on a SoCal field....This may be his showcase game. Not last games 513 yd performance.

USC 45 - UCLA 20

[Jack_Dawson]

33. I'll keep you bookmarked

C U this wknd! :hi:

[Awsi Dooger]

44. UCLA does not matchup well with USC

The Bruins are MUCH softer than Fresno State on the line of scrimmage, both offensively and defensively. That's the reason UCLA has had so many desperate come from behind escapes this year.

Maybe this will look stupid in a few days, but as an 'SC alum I was genuinely concerned about Fresno St but I think we'll smack UCLA. Especially at home. A softer finesse oriented team like UCLA has a chance to cover up flaws at home, but on the road they get exposed. It's more of a home edge than generally estimated, despite the down-the-freeway aspect.

[Jack_Dawson]

46. Stranger things have happened

in sports. And don't forget UCLA's bitterness at SC hogging the spotlight for three years. They will come to play.

[KamaAina]

26. Indeed they will...

...on Wednesday, Jan. 18, 2006, when they host the Trojans in men's basketball.

[GumboYaYa]

28. from your keyboard to God's ears....

Geaux Tigers

[SteppingRazor]

31. USC will BUTCHER UCLA...

just a hunch. You heard it hear first. :evilgrin:

USC is hands down, bar none, the best time in college football. There's not even a comparison between them and any other team. Hell, they could probably beat a couple of the crappier pro teams. It is SICK how good they are.

It pains me to say all this, because I ain't got much love for the Trojans. Butthey just can't be beat.

[Jack_Dawson]

34. They almost lost to Notre Dame

who almost lost to Stanford, who got bitchslapped by Division I-A UC Davis. On any given Saturday...

[SteppingRazor]

36. That's two almosts too many...

I reserve the right to trash talk you after this weekend, giving you, also, the right to verbally denegrate me.

P.S. Chargers suck! :evilgrin:

[Jack_Dawson]

37. You mean that team...

with the best running back in the league? :toast:

[SteppingRazor]

38. Naaah... you're thinking of the Seahawks.

:toast:

[Jack_Dawson]

39. The WHO?

Are they in the NFC? If the Seahawks were still in the AFC West they'd be MAYBE 4-7.

:beer:

[SteppingRazor]

40. Three quick questions:

Who leads the league in rushing yards (Hint:LaDainian Tomlinson is No.5)?

Who leads the league in touchdowns (Hint: LaDainian Tomlinson is No.2)?

Who has been in the league as long as LaDainian, played very little his first year, and yet still has several hundred more career rushing yards than LaDainian?

I think you know the answer.
I agree. The Seahawks suck. But Shaun Alexander is a freaking badass.

[Jack_Dawson]

41. If LT was in the JV conference...

he'd be leading every category as well. C'mon now who has Seattle beaten? Strength of schedule .438 vs. Chargers' .521

Shaun does have a hot wife though...gotta give it up for him there.

:toast:

[DrDan]

55. noooooo way

you givin' points?

Dan - SoCal Alumni

[Jack_Dawson]

57. Straight Up

21 point dogs at the moment. That gap will close...

[Arkana]

60. If they do, maybe ESPN will stop fellating Reggie Bush.

[Jack_Dawson]

61. No shit n/t

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

77. Have you seen him play?

He deserves any verbal fellatio he gets.

[realFedUp]

62. It would be the first time....

I like UCLA much better but it ain't gonna happen.

[Tikki]

65. Yes...they....will.....

I'm with the UCLA winning group.




Tikki

[Blue_Tires]

66. i hope so, but it won't matter with that bullshit nerd computer

[Jack_Dawson]

67. LOL

Hilarious. :toast:

[southlandshari]

69. Locking - flamebait. (ok, not really - LOL)

I have made some good football friends here in the Lounge this season who are big USC (NOT "Southern Cal" - lesson learned!) fans!

:hi: guys!

Good luck today, USC!!!

[Jack_Dawson]

70. Scared Me!

Not today!

:beer:

[Yavin4]

72. HAHA!!

Trojans Rule!!!

[ronnykmarshall]

78. Sure do ...

they make great condoms.

[Jack_Dawson]

73. Here to Take My Lumps

See...I was under the impression UCLA was going to show up.

:hide:

[Awsi Dooger]

74. I applaud anyone who goes out on a limb

Regardless of the outcome. Actually I loved this outcome but because of my alma mater and my bet, not your thread.

DU is very good about not rubbing it in. I post at team-specific football websites where I can give out one winner after another but as soon as you throw in a loser or two they act like you're the alltime dunce. The pathetic aspect is it's always the semi-lurkers who never offer an original opinion who criticize the most.

[ronnykmarshall]

79. I don't give a shit ....

I still love UCLA.

Good luck to SC in national championship.

I'll say this. I'm southern cal boy and root for so cal teams ...... except for the Dodgers.

GO GIANTS!!! SF RULES!!!!

[SmileyBoy]

75. Didn't happen.

Sowwy.:)

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

76. Hmmm... well...

I don't think you've had it all year. :-)

[KFC]

80. Kick for Nostradamus

[SteppingRazor]

81. Requisite taunting... 66 to 19?! OH MY! What were you thinking, Dawson?!

What a freaking slaughter. In fact, one could say that USC butchered UCLA. Where have I heard that before? Oh yeah -- I said it!
I mean, sweet jumping Jesus in a shitstream, bubba! This one was beyond even my wildest imaginings, and I've got a pretty active imagination. Were it not for the laughable Texas/Colorado game, this would have been the most horrid crushing of the season -- at least among those games that actually mattered.

I mean, wow. Just, wow.