Rock & Roll Hall of Fame's inductees for 2004

[NightTrain]

Jackson Browne
The Dells
George Harrison
Prince
Bob Seger
Traffic
ZZ Top

[Droopy]

1. All worthy inductees, but

why is George Harrison on the list? Isn't he already in with the Beatles?

[Catch22Dem]

2. Yes, but not as a solo artist

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

11. His solo career was one of the better Beatles solo ventures

IMHO, even better than McCartney and Wings, definitely.

[jenk]

3. ZZ Top & Jackson Brown - OVERRATED

[grannylib]

5. Aww, Jackson is OK...I agree on ZZ Top though...

[Character Assassin]

8. ZZ top already had a career's worth of great music before Eliminator

And are quite worthy entrants.

[MissMillie]

37. Actually

my take is that ZZ Top and Bob Seger are overrated.

Jackson Browne is a worthy nominee.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

4. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

SEGER!!! ABOUT GODDAMNED TIME!!!!

Note: I worked for that fine Michigan Progressive for 15 years and love him and all of the band(especially Chris) like family.

[liberalhistorian]

13. Amen to that!

He should have been one of the first ones inducted, as far as I'm concerned. And lucky you, getting to work with him!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

28. True. I can't believe they are just now getting around to Seger

[idontwantaname]

6. yeah!

i think 2004 is a bit mild compared to the past 2 years.. but thats just my opinion.

[mitchum]

7. When did Jackson Browne ever rock?

I really like "Late For The Sky" and I'm sure he's a nice guy, but...

[Character Assassin]

9. Are you kidding? Red Neck Friend, a song about his johnson, rocks

[leftofthedial]

12. "Running on Empty" rocks

and how about "Doctor My Eyes"?

Jackson is a great songwriter, more of the reflective sort than the testosterone OD sort.

Don't forget, he's been one of the most committed, consistent progressive voices on the planet for 3 decades. From No Nukes to opposition to the current regime, he's been very political and very outspoken. Check out the Lives in the Balance record, or "Casino Nation" from the newest record, The Naked Ride Home.




CASINO NATION

In a weapons producing nation under Jesus
In the fabled crucible of the free world
Camera crews search for clues amid the detritus
And entertainment shapes the land
The way the hammer shapes the hand

Gleaming faces in the checkout counter at the Church of Fame
The lucky winners cheer Casino Nation
All those not on TV only have themselves to blame
And don't quite seem to understand
The way the hammer shapes the hand

Out beyond the ethernet the spectrum spreads
DC to daylight, the cowboy mogul rides
Never worry where the gold for all this glory's gonna come from
Get along dogies, it's coming out of your hides

The intentional cultivation of a criminal class
The future lit by brightly burning bridges
Justice fully clothed to hide the heart of glass
That shatters in a thousand Ruby Ridges
And everywhere the good prepare for perpetual war
And let their weapons shape the plan
The way the hammer shapes the hand

Lyrics by Jackson Browne
Music by Jackson Browne, Kevin McCormick, Mark Goldenberg, Mauricio Lewak, Jeff Young
(Swallow Turn Music, ASCAP; Eye Cue Music, ASCAP; Bossypants Music/Songs of Windswept Pacific, BMI; Bateria Music, ASCAP; Glad Brad Music, Inc., ASCAP)

[mitchum]

32. "testosterone OD" is not necessary to rock..

I present: Little Richard

I'm sorry, but "Doctor My Eyes" and "Running On Empty" do not rock.
And if you are going to elevate Browne because he is a progressive, don't you also have to knock off points since he beats women (D. Hannah)?

[kwolf68]

42. Brilliant lyrics

.

[Bertha Venation]

43. Hear, hear.

Also, "The Pretender" and "The Load-Out/Stay"

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

10. GEORGE

I LOVE YOU GEOOOOOOORGE. :D

MY SWEET LORD. HERE COMES THE SUN. YAY I LOVE GEORGE.

/spaz attack

[liberalhistorian]

14. Dean, if you ever want to head

on down my way, I'll take you on the grand tour of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum since it's only 20 or so miles from me, it is FANTASTIC!

[NightTrain]

19. Thanks! I may just take you up on that someday.

n/t

[johnnie]

36. It's about..

A 10 minute drive from my house, and I have yet to go there..lol. And I have been a Cleveland musician for 25 years.

[HuckleB]

15. Hmm.

Sure seems like they're getting to the second or third or fourth tier...

[leftofthedial]

18. you think it's bad now

wait until the artists that are popular now come "of age."

I think they should limit inductions to 1 or 2 a year. Considering there has not been a worthwhile member created in the last 15 years, there definitely are not 2 new HOF-worth bands coming onto the scene every year.

[HuckleB]

33. If one sticks with English language only bands, sure.

But one can hope that the HOF won't bog itself down with that stipulation...

[cosmicdot]

16. "There is" ... the Dells

stay in my corner

[SilasSoule]

17. And traffic is only being inducted?

That's the one that is overdue. Wonder if Dave Mason is in?

[Tredge]

24. Double-take

I had to read your post twice. I read...

"Wonder if Dave Mason is in?"

as:

"Wonder if Dave Manson is in?"

(Dave Manson is (or was, I don't know his status) as a hockey player partial to fisticuffs)

Which brought my next question: "What's Dave Manson doing in a Civil War uniform?" I thought he'd gone to one of those booths at a town fair where they take a picture that looks like it was taken around the 1860's. Maybe it'd be a good publicity photo for a toughguy defenseman (I can't think of how, but still...maybe. But your picture there looks exactly like Dave Manson, thousand-yard stare and all. Here's the closest picture I could find to show what I mean:



Now I've only had one beer, so I got it all cleared up in my head after a little while. I still don't know who the picture's of, but I'm satisfied it's not Dave Manson.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

20. STILL no Patti Smith or Sex Pistols????

but we get mullet rock like zz top and bob segar? wtf?!?

who votes on this shit, anyway? ronnie dobbs?

[NightTrain]

21. Bob Seger is "mullet rock?"

I hardly think the man who wrote the anti-war anthem, "2+2=?," qualifies as "mullet rock."

Granted, you might've accurately called Seger mullet rock a year before that, when he recorded his pro-war song parody, "Ballad of the Yellow Berets," under the pseudonym of the Beach Bums, but he obviously had a serious change of heart on Vietnam between those two recordings.

And frankly, as one who was born and raised working class, I get goddamned sick and tired of the snide remarks I hear among so-called "tolerant liberals" about America's "white trash." Guess you only qualify as oppressed if you're gay, a person of color, an illegal alien, or a criminal in jail!

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

22. hey, i live in wv

i'm hardly in the position of being some kind of liberal elitist

i just think segar is bad fm 'classic' rock is all. i put him right up there w/ styx, journey, and foghat and don't see how the voters at the r&r hall could pass up the pistols and patti smith year after year in favor segar and zz top

as for his antiwar positions, i had no idea and good for him

[Leftist78]

23. The Sex Pistols

should have been inducted years ago. Much better than ANY of this years inductees IMHO.

[Faygo Kid]

30. Yeah, well, live and learn. Seger is classic.

Saw him in 1969. Sorry you couldn't be there. Too young, I guess. Get real.

[liberalhistorian]

25. I'm sorry, but Bob Seger

is Way Way WAAAAAYYYYYY above the likes of Patti Smith and the Sex Pistols!!! IMHO, of course.

[Leftist78]

26. it's all opinion

unless you're talking about which one is more influential. In that case you'd have to go with the Sex Pistols, but what's "better" is totally subjective.

[NightTrain]

27. Good for you!

Although I like both the Sex Pistols and Patti Smith, Seger's music resonates much more profoundly with me.

[Faygo Kid]

29. Bob Seger - about damned time!

Sorry, youngsters - this one has been deprived for WAY too long. Rock on, Bob. No quarrels with the others, either, but Seger should have been in years ago.

[Red_Storm]

31. Jackson Browne ?

Maybe i'm uninformed but is his body of work that impressive ? Was his music that influential?

[newyawker99]

34. I think that all of the great rock acts are already in

the Hall of Fame. The only current nominees that I find worthy of induction are Traffic and George Harrison.

[Red_Storm]

38. Why do you think.................

that Traffic is more worthy of induction than Bob Seger ? Just curious...........

[MissMillie]

39. Isn't it possible

that some people just don't care much for Bob Seger?

Honestly, there are only two musicians who, when they come on the radio, have me automatically reaching to change the station. Seger is one of them.

Tom Petty is the other.

Just not my cup of tea. I'm happy that Seger is a progressive and anti-war. Hooray!

But if he has something he wants to say about his politics, I personally wish he'd just say it.

[Red_Storm]

40. I'm not a big Bob Seger fan but................

I think his body of work is respectable and I think even worthy of induction into the hall of fame, that's all.........

[Kolesar]

44. yes, that is a pretty lame field

I would put Jackson Brown in, though, because he's got soul.

While I am at it, ZZ Top and Bob Seger are neither great nor influential. About the most important moment in ZZ's career was when MTV came out and they startd coopted the Duran Duran sound. "Legs" is lifted from "Hungry Like the Wolf".

Bob Segar cannot sing. "Down on May-yay-yay-yane Street", "Ahh-oooooh", my dog's a-barking! More like down on Lame Street.

[Booberdawg]

35. So who did you have to fuck to get all these responses?

:P

[proud patriot]

41. YAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!! Congrats Jackson Browne

Well Deserved :bounce:

[geniph]

45. What the hell does everyone have against the double Z's?

I'm a big fan of ZZ Top, have been for years. I'm always partial to a hard-rocking bluesy sound and a sense of humor.

Bit of trivia about the boys: if you watch Back to the Future Part III and see the bluegrass band, guess who's playing? Yup, the double Z's are on that stage, rocking the 1800s.

Me, I don't much care for Jackson Browne or Bob Seger, but that's because their styles of music don't much appeal to me on a visceral level. I find Traffic a bit pretentious. I adore Prince and am surprised he wasn't already in there. Of course George Harrison belongs in there, for All Things Must Pass if nothing else. I know very little about the Dells. But quitcher rankin on the double Z's - music's all a matter of personal taste, anyway, and some of us love their sound.